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[SPEC] December 9th!!!!!!!
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Caerwiden
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OliMango wrote:
Melampus wrote:
I'm posting this here instead of the "Jamie's gift" thread because, as several people pointed out, it shouldn't have been a new thread...

There were some questions (on the "jamie's gift" thread) about why they would make it December 9th, instead of 12/10, if they never add stuff on Sunday. The idea was that the date itself must have been important. I posted this a while back on another thread, but since it's come up again...

Dec. 9th is the 6th night of Chanukah this year (can any Jewish people out there confirm or deny this?), and I found this on a website talking about rituals for the 6th night of Chanukah:

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While it is common to think of there being four seasons, according to Gen. 9:22 the seasons number six. . . We also see the number six in our six pointed star, the six directions in nature (north, south, east, west, up, down), and six visible colors in the rainbow. Six is the balance and beauty of the physical world.


If the date itself is significant, then, well... I have no idea. Rolling Eyes


12/9/07

12+9 = 21
21 divided by 7 = 3
3 + monster = Monster3
Monster3 - 3 = Monster


:O


You missed a bit.

12/9/07

12+9 = 21
21 divided by 7 = 3
3 - Slusho! = Monster
3 + Monster = Monster3
Monster3 - 3 = Monster
Monster = <3

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OliMango wrote:
December 9, 2003
Cold spell leads to tragedy in Iran

Unseasonably low temperatures in Tehran, Iran, lead to the deaths of at least 40 people on this day in 2003. Rarely do such large groups die at the same time.

In general, death from freezing occurs when the body's core temperature reaches 77 degrees Fahrenheit, a fact discovered by Nazi doctors during experiments on prisoners at the notorious Dachau concentration camp during World War II. In 1994, however, a two-year-old child in Canada survived a body temperature of just 57 degrees suffered when she wandered away from her Saskatchewan home.

When core body temperature goes down to 97 degrees, neck and shoulder muscles tighten and extremities begin to ache. When it gets to 95 degrees, mild hypothermia sets in and involuntary trembling and shivering occurs as the body tries to generate its own heat. Two degrees lower and amnesia and short-term memory loss is common. When body temperature reaches 88, shivering is no longer possible and people experience general numbness.

In some cases, a phenomenon known as "paradoxical undressing" occurs, in which a person about to freeze to death actually rips off their clothes. The effects of hypothermia can also be delayed--in one instance, Danish fishermen stuck in the North Sea for 90 minutes were able to walk on the deck of a rescue ship before falling down and dying.

One notorious incident of hypothermia occurred at the Four Inns Walk in England in 1964. The race involved 240 racers (all in excellent condition) hiking 43 miles over the English moors. Although the temperature never fell below freezing, the wind and rain caused three people to freeze to death and put another four in critical condition. Researchers later determined that a key factor in the deaths was that the victims had failed to take in enough calories during the hike.

The 2003 freeze in Tehran was unusual in that so many people died in a single night. The previous year in Moscow, between 5 and 10 people froze to death every day during the winter for a total of more than 300 in the city alone.


I think this story will mean the most, cause of the freezing stuff.

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Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?

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1.

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!
"Charge for the guns!" he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

2.

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

3.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

4.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air,
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reel'd from the sabre stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

5.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

6.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred.



Published on December 9, 1870

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OliMango wrote:
OliMango wrote:
December 9, 2003
Cold spell leads to tragedy in Iran

Unseasonably low temperatures in Tehran, Iran, lead to the deaths of at least 40 people on this day in 2003. Rarely do such large groups die at the same time.

In general, death from freezing occurs when the body's core temperature reaches 77 degrees Fahrenheit, a fact discovered by Nazi doctors during experiments on prisoners at the notorious Dachau concentration camp during World War II. In 1994, however, a two-year-old child in Canada survived a body temperature of just 57 degrees suffered when she wandered away from her Saskatchewan home.

When core body temperature goes down to 97 degrees, neck and shoulder muscles tighten and extremities begin to ache. When it gets to 95 degrees, mild hypothermia sets in and involuntary trembling and shivering occurs as the body tries to generate its own heat. Two degrees lower and amnesia and short-term memory loss is common. When body temperature reaches 88, shivering is no longer possible and people experience general numbness.

In some cases, a phenomenon known as "paradoxical undressing" occurs, in which a person about to freeze to death actually rips off their clothes. The effects of hypothermia can also be delayed--in one instance, Danish fishermen stuck in the North Sea for 90 minutes were able to walk on the deck of a rescue ship before falling down and dying.

One notorious incident of hypothermia occurred at the Four Inns Walk in England in 1964. The race involved 240 racers (all in excellent condition) hiking 43 miles over the English moors. Although the temperature never fell below freezing, the wind and rain caused three people to freeze to death and put another four in critical condition. Researchers later determined that a key factor in the deaths was that the victims had failed to take in enough calories during the hike.

The 2003 freeze in Tehran was unusual in that so many people died in a single night. The previous year in Moscow, between 5 and 10 people froze to death every day during the winter for a total of more than 300 in the city alone.


I think this story will mean the most, cause of the freezing stuff.


How so? The movie takes place in 2008, explain please senor (or senorita whichever it may be).

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wallflower127 wrote:
yea today is the sixth night of hannukah. just posted to confirm...dno how many other jews there are on here. but to most jews six isnt this huge deal of a number, while ironicly 18 is...its chai. just interesting i thought

You reminded me of something: Gematria. Now, I'm warning you, this s a stretch, but JJ is a yid, so it might have gone on in his head. pretty much, every letter of the Hebrew alphabet has a numerical value, and the point of gematria is to take the combined numerical value of a word, and match it with another word with the same value. Or if its an important word/number, it gives significance to the equivilant number/word. (wallflower's example: chai=חי =life: ח=8, י=10.)
so if we take 1-18-08 (=28 ), we get these words:
יחוד=yichud=unity
כח=co'ach=strength
טיט=teet=clay

meh. it might have occured to him, it might not. either way, its an interesting result.

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tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.

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OliMango wrote:
tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.


Now that's interesting.

Hmm...

Gonna have a think about that.

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So, eliwein, what do you get if you plug in the numbers, 12/9/7? (w/the whole Gematria thing).

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Caerwiden wrote:
OliMango wrote:
tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.


Now that's interesting.

Hmm...

Gonna have a think about that.


This is a huge stretch, there is nothing to suggest that the phase of the moon has anything to do with this film.

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My girlfriend is Wiccan and I asked her what importance the New Moon has in Wicca. She says that it's a generally positive thing and is good for new beginnings, new ventures, job hunting, healing and love spells.

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Ivo wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
OliMango wrote:
tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.


Now that's interesting.

Hmm...

Gonna have a think about that.


This is a huge stretch, there is nothing to suggest that the phase of the moon has anything to do with this film.


We're talking about the ARG here though, Jamie's Wiccan, JJ Abrams likes symbolism. It's not a huge stretch.

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Caerwiden wrote:
My girlfriend is Wiccan and I asked her what importance the New Moon has in Wicca. She says that it's a generally positive thing and is good for new beginnings, new ventures, job hunting, healing and love spells.


And the beginning of the end of NYC? New moon=birth of monster, which is obviously Jesus. Wink

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Caerwiden wrote:
Ivo wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
OliMango wrote:
tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.


Now that's interesting.

Hmm...

Gonna have a think about that.


This is a huge stretch, there is nothing to suggest that the phase of the moon has anything to do with this film.


We're talking about the ARG here though, Jamie's Wiccan, JJ Abrams likes symbolism. It's not a huge stretch.


I disagree, and I highly doubt Abrams has anything to do with the ARG at this point, if he ever did.

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Ivo wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
Ivo wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
OliMango wrote:
tiny420 wrote:
Isn't December 9th the start of a new moon?


Yup.


Now that's interesting.

Hmm...

Gonna have a think about that.


This is a huge stretch, there is nothing to suggest that the phase of the moon has anything to do with this film.


We're talking about the ARG here though, Jamie's Wiccan, JJ Abrams likes symbolism. It's not a huge stretch.


I disagree, and I highly doubt Abrams has anything to do with the ARG at this point, if he ever did.


Ha. Where the hell have you been?

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