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Will 2.0
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 		Looks like an anagram.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:22 am
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southernbitch
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Quote:
My name is Nathan Cade,

My f(r)iends call me Nate. I am happy to meet you. I don't have much time to write you write now I am barely able to Stop. Busy day you must understand, and I am on Site. I will contact you as soon as I can.


I assume this is the email he is referring to when he says "see my first email" does. I have racked my brain, asking myself "Who are we all?" and I can't come up with anything...uurrgghh

Is anyone else having any better luck with this code?

[edit - fixed the quote - kona]

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Ayeso
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 		Has anyone other then Darren emailed bobby? Which email did you use?

SingersaintSPLATgmail.com?
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.Trace
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 		I've emailed Bobby as well using the singersaintSPLATgmail.com.. Waiting on a reply at the moment - Was asing who Falthis was.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:03 pm
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southernbitch
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 		I had to stopping with the code for now...couldn't see straight.

I tried anagramming LMMAIOTP, but didn't come up with anything that made sense.

Also emailed Bobby asking if he has any information. Not expecting much, but maybe.
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phantomaz
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 		ok, i got some things to say.
a few days ago, after that i tried to contact Nate for 4 times and never getting an answer i wrote a mail to singersaintSPLATgmail.com, telling him that i want to help finding Nathan and that i like to stay on his side
i wrote:
Quote:

Hallo bobby
I know how much dangerous can be people that doesn't respect contracts.
And i don't like Nathan too much, i wrote him so many mails, but he never answered me....
If i can help you finding him, i'll be very happy.

and he answered:
Quote:

Good I am glad to have someone with some sense helping me. I will contact you soon with a plan. until then don't let Nathan know you are working with me

after he wrote me again:
Quote:

I think it best that Sandra not know I am working in league with other humans who know about everything, thanks to Nathan. She rarely monitors me but just in case I am giving you the code name "Valafar". Maybe then at least she may believe I am in contact with one of her peers. Remember this, you and any others who come to reason and try to help me find Nathan, are NOT supposed to know about any of this. Those who run the Orginization would not be happy.

then me again:
Quote:

ok Bobby, it seems that is better for the safety of everybody to use other names....
and your name?is it the real one?
i still haven't any contact with Nathan....i hope i can help you in some way....

bobby's answer:
Quote:

Just call me the Singer Saint, Bobby is someone I used to be truly. Let me know if you find a way to learn Nathan's location


then today, after the recent conversations with Falthis i had a googlechat with our friend bobby:
Quote:

me: ehi bobby!!
15.59 Bobby: Hello
me: Valafar here
do you read my mail?
16.00 what's happened with Falthis??!?!?
16.01 Bobby: He beat us to Nathan
me: so what now?
Falthis works with you??
16.02 Bobby: I wouldn't say WITH me, but we both have the same employer
me: mmmhhh i see that there is a little of competition on your side
16.03 so Falthis is getting Nate to Sandra?
Bobby: not really, Falthis could kill me in a second if he was so inclined...his kind are not to be trifled with
Falthis has already returned Nate to Sandra. He is currently being "reconditioned"
16.04 me: so this is good for us?
what we have to do now?
and Falthis has found the thing that Nate stole?
16.05 sorry for so much question but there's a lot of things that i like to know..
16.07 Bobby: Right now, we need to protect the one who goes by the name Metatron. He foolishly told Falthis a little too much thinking he was Nate and now Falthis plans on hunting him down. I may have a plan, but I need some time to see if it will work
16.08 me: this sounds a little strange to me......why do you want to protect the fake Metatron??
16.10 Bobby: Why wouldn't I want to? I am no fiend
me: but you're not human too..
Bobby: Ha! Who told you that?
16.11 me: mmmhhh just my thoughts....
and from some things that you said...
16.12 im wrong??
16.16 bobby are you here??
Bobby: not necessarily
yes I am here
16.17 I can't go into what I am, but I can tell you that I want nothing to happen to anyone involved in this
me: hehehehe you are really a saint
16.18 and tell me about the thing that Nate stole....his found that??
16.19 "Falthis" not "his"
5 minuti
16.24 me: and what about your plan??
16.27 Bobby: my plan is to take advantage of Falthis's nature and weakness
I can't say more on it right now
I will contact you soon, I need to go check on Nathan now
me: ok
but please Singer Saint
no secret with me
16.28 Bobby: I only withold information for everyone's good
While I try to set things into motion, please continue to try to find Nathan's "Safe Space"
me: don't care about my "good", i can take care of myself
i just want the truth
16.29 i'll continue with the others in searching yje place where was hidden Nate
Bobby: not just you, but everyone... I will be in contact soon


so this is the actual situation:
Nate have been found by Falthis and returned to Andras
no info about the thing that he stole from Andras
now Falthis wants to kill our friend Metatron X)
Bobby told me to continue to try to find the safe place of Nate, also if i can't understand why....
as you can read why have absolutely to find out WHO or WHAT or WHICH DAEMON is Falthis, cause we'll have to use his/her/it weakness to defeat him/her/it X)

so going back to the first email....
i see that esteed received it first....can Esteed please take a look to the full SMTP headers in the original email to see if there is any clue??

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:14 pm
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Ayeso
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 		So it all still comes down to decoding the myspace message.. alright everyone lets take another crack at this its staring us right in the face I know it.


I will try and summarize.

Quote:
I have found a safe place for us to gather, but I am being watched.

The first response holds the key to the front door. I was on Site and unable to talk much at that time, but I said enough to get the point across. I hope.

Your F(r)iend,

Nate Cade


We've always been assuming the first response means the email, but we could be off course.. maybe he means first reply to his blog? First Reply?..


Quote:
Charmeine

The key is in the first reply. Just ask yourself "Who are we all?"

NC


Once again regarding the first reply.. and who are we all.. in everyones first email reply they are given a angelic codename...

Quote:
Bobby Singer said...
Nathan they know. I helped them. You know I can't resist. Find Help.

SS

December 5, 2007 3:46 PM


First reply on his blog...
Quote:
eebckeeridsthankitcmodwanawofcwkitcescrffnotww
This is not the place, only the stoop to the front door


So.. I have tried... Vignere cipher using many keywords..

Angels Angel Angelic Demon Demons Demonic Saint Saints Stopper Stoppers Nathanite(bobby referred to us as this at one point)


Other things attempted..

take the letters given divide them into two groups

Quote:
eebckeeridsthankitcmodw and anawofcwkitcescrffnotww


reverse both groups

Quote:
wdomctiknahtsdireekcbee and wwtonffrcsectikwcfowana


put the first group above the second

Quote:
wdomctiknahtsdireekcbee
wwtonffrcsectikwcfowana


now starting top left go down right up right down

you get

wwwdot

Other things of interest..

Quote:
Email from BS

We are a new wave of old age indentured servants

Email to BS was :

Quote:

Maybe if I knew more about why Nathan would be a problem, I would be able to help you.
Why do you call yourselves "free prisoners"?




**EDIT** holy crap how did we miss this


Quote:
Nathan Cade: I don't have much time left. Falthis is hunting me... I have managed to Stop him so far but I don't know how much longer I can truly hold out. There is a last clue to the key, sorry that I cannot tell you directly. If I did it would ruin the purpose, I am not the only one who has grown in power.
Enoch: ok, however there are many responses that you have and we are not sure whichone to check
Nathan Cade: My Introduction
Enoch: o, ok
Enoch: that will make some of it easier
Nathan Cade: "My f(r)iends call me nate" although Enoch you and the others can call me nathancade

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:26 pm
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 		I first try to break up a long string like that. It has an even number of letters, so i begin with halves:
Code:
eebckeeridsthankitcmodw
anawofcwkitcescrffnotww

and then I see a "www" and a "dot" at the end of that stacked set, and wonder if you can get a URL domain from the stuff that preceeds it...

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Ayeso
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Quote:
Nathan Cade: My Introduction
Enoch: o, ok
Enoch: that will make some of it easier
Nathan Cade: "My f(r)iends call me nate" although Enoch you and the others can call me nathancade



Quote:
Charmeine

The key is in the first reply. Just ask yourself "Who are we all?"

NC

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nilradical
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 		Lots of interesting developments... Since we're sort of summarizing things we've tried for the 'safe place' mystery-- another thing I was fiddling with before people hit on Nate's myspace page was finding a phone number. He pointed us to that first sentence, "My friends call me Nate," so I thought the key might be "call me". Since he said to call "me Nate", but then pointed out that we all call him nathan cade, I tried calling "nathancade" and "menatecade" (i.e. (628) 426-2233, etc), but had no luck. It's probably a dead end, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.

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phantomaz
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 		tried a lot of keys with vigenere
fiends friends hunted fugitive and so on but nothing....
there is something that we are missing....
by the way:
to get the string
eebckeeridsthankitcmodwanawofcwkitcescrffnotww
to start with
http
the key has to start with
xlin

..........
.......................

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 		Something else that struck me as odd, but is probably nothing-- Nate's first blog post on myspace (the "Alright New Computer!" one) is backdated-- the date at the top of the blog post is March 4, 2007, but Nate didn't join myspace until 12-7-07. Plus, why have that first blog post there at all? Maybe the first blog post ties in somehow... or I'm just grasping at straws. Smile

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phantomaz
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 		i got one more contact with bobby:

Quote:

Valafar stay away from Falthis... There is nothing anyone can do to him by standing directly against him. Nathan has been returned to Sandra. She is "reconditioning" him as I write this. I have been petitioning for his release, but so far my pleas have fallen on deaf ears. I will be able to give you more information soon. I want you to deliver a message for me though.
Tell everyone that they all need to stop thinking of me as Nathan's enemy. Yes I work for those who Nathan works for and my abilities were used to track him down, but it is because I honor my contract. I am not a fiend nor do I wish any harm to Nathan. I am his friend, whether he believes it or not, his returning to us was in his and everyone's better interest, but due to his resistance and our failure he was returned under less than satisfactory circumstances. We can't change that now. You all need to create a unified front against Falthis, he is coming for one of you and although I have a plan I need some more time to start it. If the first steps work I will contact everyone to let them know what needs to be done. Please deliver this to them in anyway you can Valafar, this is very important.

Stay safe and I will contact you soon.


eeeehhhmmm somebody contact Metatron and tell him to change planet!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway i answered telling him that i'll deliver this message and
why he wants that we find the Nate's safe place if Nate is already @Andras....
and i asked him "what are we"....maybe he can give us a tip about our problem....

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Quote:
Nathan has been returned by Falthis and is currently being held and "reconditioned". I am working on helping him and at this point there is nothing any of you can do for him. Right now all of you need to work on protecting "Metatron" from Falthis. He plans on starting his hunt soon. I have a plan, but if it doesn' t work it won't hurt to have a back up. It would help everyone if we could find the Safe Place Nathan spoke of in some of his last emails. Once we are gathered there I can let you guys in on what is happening.


Just got this from Bobby...thought I would pass it along. Haven't made any progress with the ciphers either.[/code]
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.Trace
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 		Sent him an emailing saying I had heard from you, and am wanting to help.. will see if he replies.
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