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[SPEC - QUESTION] - What was in the tanker?
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Nighthawk
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For the record, wasn't King Kong transported off his island in a tanker? Granted, he was a lot smaller than our antagonist...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:07 pm
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sad_squash
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fleabit wrote:


Regardless, I still think that the tanker is involved in some way, it's not just a destruction scene.

...don't you think that a capsized OIL tanker would be huge, massize news? Spilling millions of gallons of crude into the harbor might sort of make the story.. Razz



There were news choppers and a news cast covering it. So, indeed, it was news.

It just seems to make sense to me that the tanker crashed. (cuz of the monster being in it? maybe? but maybe not). Either way, the best explanation, in my opinion, of the big first explosion from the teaser has got to be the monster chucking the tanker into town. That's the most logical (as far as a monster movie can go) explanation of that huge fireball of an explosion. And a tanker filled with a food ingredient isn't going to blow up like that, but a tanker filled with oil would!

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bloopbloop
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The tanker is full of money.

The monster needs money.

The monster follows the tanker.

Disaster ensues.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:18 pm
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Melodyman
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I kinda like the idea of MGP following the tanker from Chuai and rising up to grab the SOL, he(she?) capsizes it.
As for whats in it, well, whateveritis that they are pumping up from Chuai. Will we ever find out in the movie? Will they? It all adds to the tension.

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airteff
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My two cents, Grumpypants is Tag's way of getting back the US for dropping A-bombs on Japan, so they do build the monster and release it in the harbour, the first explosion is an oil tanker. It almost has to be because the SoL comes after that explosion

My other theory is basically the same except for Grumpypants is a pissed off aliean that has been sleeping and was awoken by Tag because they wanted to research it. He gets pissed and chases down an oil tanker that is moving away from the Chuai station and follows it to New York where he then blows up the Tag tanker and says hello to Miss Liberty.

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Everything's Magic
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I might have said this earlier, but it's oil. That's what the explosion is; the monster throws the tanker into the city.

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I am not an expert in boats or tankers, but I just don't think you are going to fit a 300+ foot creature in the bottom of a tanker, which should have ballasts to store oil and keep it from sinking. I said this before in another thread somewhere...Monster throws the tanker into the city and then comes inland a bit to rip the SoL head off and chucks it in as well.

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suckaH
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I thought it was pretty obvious that the explosion was oil with barrels flying towards rob and co. on the roof of the building. I don't think this needs to be thought of any more than that.

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Monster, and other Tag goodies in tanker

I think it's entirely possible the monster came from the tanker. Consider one hard fact we know about the movie: the blow-up girl. She gets bigger, real fast. Not 300 feet bigger, but supersized.

Now, what if Tag did land some creature from the crevices below Chaui, and were bringing it in. But, they also have lots of other stuff they might be carting around, like SBN, and or the amazing things Bold Futura works on. A few things get crossed up inside the tanker, mixing big creature with some ingredient that has profoud effects, and boom, it grows madly and splits the tanker open from the inside.

Just sayin'. That would also explain several well discussed questions: Why didn't radar/sonar/satellite imaging pick it up before the harbor, when NYC is target numero uno for sonar to be monitoring. Why wasn't there huge waves, roars, or seismic type activity till it was right on top of NYC. Well, one good explanation is that it wasn't huge till it got to the harbor, then it got huge quick. Did slusho talk about the effects of SBN ad nausuem for nothing?

KidReviewer

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StayPuftMarshmallowMan
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i have to agree. The only reason they would not have seen anything on radar is because it was being carried in the tanker. If it was chasing the tanker they would have seen it on radar. They would have sent submarines to intercept it. AN evacuation would also have been started for New York. The army would have been ready.

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sad_squash wrote:
the tanker may have been full of (*gasp*) OIL!


That's where my money is! Not just because I agree with you 100% but literally, I drive a Ford Excursion.

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suckaH
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Re: Monster, and other Tag goodies in tanker

KidReviewer wrote:
I think it's entirely possible the monster came from the tanker. Consider one hard fact we know about the movie: the blow-up girl. She gets bigger, real fast. Not 300 feet bigger, but supersized.

Now, what if Tag did land some creature from the crevices below Chaui, and were bringing it in. But, they also have lots of other stuff they might be carting around, like SBN, and or the amazing things Bold Futura works on. A few things get crossed up inside the tanker, mixing big creature with some ingredient that has profoud effects, and boom, it grows madly and splits the tanker open from the inside.

Just sayin'. That would also explain several well discussed questions: Why didn't radar/sonar/satellite imaging pick it up before the harbor, when NYC is target numero uno for sonar to be monitoring. Why wasn't there huge waves, roars, or seismic type activity till it was right on top of NYC. Well, one good explanation is that it wasn't huge till it got to the harbor, then it got huge quick. Did slusho talk about the effects of SBN ad nausuem for nothing?

KidReviewer

When exactly would you say it gets the SoL head then? Not trying to be a dick, i'm asking a legitimate question.

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I don't think the creature came from inside the tanker.

In the newscast, they say a tanker capsized, not split in half, or exploded, or shattered, or anything to indicate that the tanker did anything other than flip upside down.

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Everything's Magic wrote:
I might have said this earlier, but it's oil. That's what the explosion is; the monster throws the tanker into the city.


We have an approximation as to the creature's size. Then consider that the tanker is probably more than twice as large and significantly heavier. I seriously doubt the monster can just hip toss it in to the city. It'd be like you trying to chuck a Volkswagon down a football field.

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Rogers
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Certain it's the tanker blowing up?

If the tanker turned over long ago enough that the news picked it up - so, to activate helicopters and such around the region in the middle of the night, give 'em about 15 minutes? - why would there be no sight of the monster from the air?

And the tanker was news after the earthquake.

SO how was the earthquake caused? Then, how did the tanker get overturned without any notice or reports of a giant monster? According to the trailer, after the explosion (like, 30 seconds after) the monster is undeniably strolling through the city, and EVERYBODY knows it's there.

How does it cause so much disruption without being noticed all that time?
Is it possible the earthquake came after the tanker was capsized?

What if the monster was concealed in the tanker, he jumped out, and tried to burry himself back underground, for some reason, causing tectonic problems on the island, and then resurfaced after not finding its home? (just thinking out loud).
Perhaps his resurfacing ruptures gaslines or something for the city, and that's waht the major explosion is. I know oil burns, but I don't know if it explodes. Would oil explode like that image in the trailer?

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the explosion was oil with barrels flying towards rob and co. on the roof of the building.


I don't know if barrels would hit buildings and destroy them. A barrel would probably bounce off of a solid surface like a building, not burry itself deep into it. I don't think the fireballs were oil barrels.

AND can a tanker carry something that's capable of lifting and throwing a tanker?

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