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[SPEC - QUESTION] - What was in the tanker?
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LaNcEleCtriKuTion
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Speculation on GP/Tanker relationship

I like how people suggest that either GP came from the seabed and chased the tanker from the Chuai Station, or that it grew on the tanker.
Here are my theories:

T1. When the drilling station hits a certain spot, GP awoke and saw something leaving- mistaking the tanker as another fish. This is said already, but I have more- when the tanker slows down at the harbor, GP somehow is'nt detected by radar. A theory for this is that by mutation or something else, it's skin/hide/scales might be radar-proof, like stealth planes. It finds the tanker, claws at it, and when GP finds it not edible, he starts to get pissed for chasing something hundreds of miles and finding it worthless. He then randomly picks up a smaller boat near there and tries to eat it- when unable to, he throws it into the city, again tries to eat the SOL head with same results, and thunders off into where GP finally sees edible material- Humans.

T2. Taggy (Tagruato) has been experimenting with Slusho/SBN and turn it into a growth accelerator. They found a large anphibian monster in the seabed that was able to fit into a tanker (at the time) and since the were so excited, they rushed to their closest science facility, maybe in NYC. Taggy then tries their newly founded growth steroids on the anphibian, and it grows and grows, until it turns into lovable Mr. GP. Then it breaks out, picks up random boat, tries to eat it... similar to the end of Theory 1.

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Re: Speculation on GP/Tanker relationship

LaNcEleCtriKuTion wrote:
I like how people suggest that either GP came from the seabed and chased the tanker from the Chuai Station, or that it grew on the tanker.
Here are my theories:

T1. When the drilling station hits a certain spot, GP awoke and saw something leaving- mistaking the tanker as another fish. This is said already, but I have more- when the tanker slows down at the harbor, GP somehow is'nt detected by radar. A theory for this is that by mutation or something else, it's skin/hide/scales might be radar-proof, like stealth planes. It finds the tanker, claws at it, and when GP finds it not edible, he starts to get pissed for chasing something hundreds of miles and finding it worthless. He then randomly picks up a smaller boat near there and tries to eat it- when unable to, he throws it into the city, again tries to eat the SOL head with same results, and thunders off into where GP finally sees edible material- Humans.

T2. Taggy (Tagruato) has been experimenting with Slusho/SBN and turn it into a growth accelerator. They found a large anphibian monster in the seabed that was able to fit into a tanker (at the time) and since the were so excited, they rushed to their closest science facility, maybe in NYC. Taggy then tries their newly founded growth steroids on the anphibian, and it grows and grows, until it turns into lovable Mr. GP. Then it breaks out, picks up random boat, tries to eat it... similar to the end of Theory 1.

Replies, anyone?


The problem with theory 2 is that it can't just be a random boat. The boat is pretty much confirmed as being Tagruato. I also don't think the monster would just randomly pick up the boats smell and start following or something like that. If this thing lived or was that near to land, I;m pretty sure we would've noticed it. I mean, with the whole Bloop thing, assuming that that was Grumpypants, if this thing even makes a sound a ton of equipment within a 5000 mile radius hears it. Either this thing is really quite, or it lives WAY down in the ocean.

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Re: Certain it's the tanker blowing up?

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the explosion was oil with barrels flying towards rob and co. on the roof of the building.


I don't know if barrels would hit buildings and destroy them. A barrel would probably bounce off of a solid surface like a building, not burry itself deep into it. I don't think the fireballs were oil barrels.

AND can a tanker carry something that's capable of lifting and throwing a tanker?[/quote]
Lol, pretty sure that an incredibly heavy object made of steel that is soaring at hundreds of miles per hour and is heated high above melting temperature isn't going to bounce off of a concrete structure. It's going to plow straight through it.

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the nearest projectile seems to break apart into smaller ones as it starts to fall, so I don't think it is a barrel.
Having said that, I don't have much experience with explosive barrels in real life.

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Slusho Addict wrote:
the nearest projectile seems to break apart into smaller ones as it starts to fall, so I don't think it is a barrel.
Having said that, I don't have much experience with explosive barrels in real life.


I suppose a Tanker could contain oil in its Hull, and also those 20-40 foot long metal containers on its deck. (you know the ones...they get loaded onto freight trucks)

I guess that would cause a big nuff' BOOM, and explain the projectiles...

But i kinda' think that tanker belongs to Tagruato...
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zooboomafoo, I meant "A random boat" not "random boat". Typo there. And the reason i said random was because it found out the Taggy ship wasn't real, so it grabbed a random boat near the capsized Taggy ship, not the ship itself. And to add on my theories:

If it constantly grows, GP'll break out of the tanker like a cocoon, maybe through the hull, so the news copters couldnt see it.

Also, for my other theory, it lives WAAYYYY below sea level, maybe near molten levels. GP may also have limited burrowing abilities, but can only do it in softer ground underwater. The dirt up here is littered with debris and hard ground, so maybe he gets evn MORE pissed, and his bad day becomes worse.

'least he has a reason for trashing Manhattan now Smile

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Roztox wrote:
Slusho Addict wrote:
the nearest projectile seems to break apart into smaller ones as it starts to fall, so I don't think it is a barrel.
Having said that, I don't have much experience with explosive barrels in real life.


I suppose a Tanker could contain oil in its Hull, and also those 20-40 foot long metal containers on its deck. (you know the ones...they get loaded onto freight trucks)

I guess that would cause a big nuff' BOOM, and explain the projectiles...

But i kinda' think that tanker belongs to Tagruato...


Tankers generally don't double as container carries like you are describing; it's too much of a risk.

And if you're suggesting that the projectiles were containers, I'm afraid a container is a helluva lot bigger than that. Smile

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Regardless of the specifics, it's looking like the oil tanker has something to do with the monster's appearance...if for no other reason than the Tagruato logo on the ship.

What's not clear, is that the tanker is somehow involved in the large explosion shown in the trailers.
It's highly probable that they'll never show what caused it.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Roztox wrote:
Slusho Addict wrote:
the nearest projectile seems to break apart into smaller ones as it starts to fall, so I don't think it is a barrel.
Having said that, I don't have much experience with explosive barrels in real life.


I suppose a Tanker could contain oil in its Hull, and also those 20-40 foot long metal containers on its deck. (you know the ones...they get loaded onto freight trucks)

I guess that would cause a big nuff' BOOM, and explain the projectiles...

But i kinda' think that tanker belongs to Tagruato...


Tankers generally don't double as container carries like you are describing; it's too much of a risk.

And if you're suggesting that the projectiles were containers, I'm afraid a container is a helluva lot bigger than that. Smile


LOL..my bad, i did mean 20-40 metre container....ummm, it was a...um
typo. Embarassed
And i see your point about to much of a risk, to carry oil+cargo...

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LaNcEleCtriKuTion wrote:
If it constantly grows, GP'll break out of the tanker like a cocoon, maybe through the hull, so the news copters couldnt see it.


If the explosion came from the tanker, i'd assume that the news choppers would all be POOF. And I only saw one shining it's light on the tanker. I'd assume it's a police chopper or an early response chopper without a news crew, or that hasn't had time to begin filming. The news report came on only immediately after the rumbling anyway.

And if MGP did manage to somehow move about unseen, and than did throw the random boat instead of killing the tanker, the news chopper would most definitely have seen it. If it even was a news chopper...

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lol, I think that the monster destroyed the tanker and rushed the city, because it was maybe 1/2 a minute after the tanker hit the news that there was the big explosion in the center of the city, that thing was quick with its work! plus musta been luggin around SOLs head, because it was a while after the explosion that it lugged it at the building

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I'm assuming that, when the news report comes on, the SOL is still intact. I might not have much faith in the media, but I would like to believe that a news helicopter might notice the little detail of the SOL missing her head...

I'm guessing that at the time of the newscast the monster's swimming between islands.

That brings up an interesting point: the SOL's head bounces off the street less than a minute before we see the creature down the street. So unless he can swim over a mile and walk half a mile through Manhattan in under a minute, he's been carrying the SOL's head around like a baseball all along.

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[Time Gap]
something else we have to take into consideration

We have to remember the time gap in this film. Now, It's been rumored that this film is what 90 something minutes long? I dunno, but even if that isn't true, if it were 3 hours long- it still wouldn't account for the actual length of time all these things played out.

"At approximately seven hours ago some thing attacked the city." I assure you we aren't about to watch a 7 hour movie, so my conclusion is- there were of course time lapses along the way.

We assume that the monster is quick because of the time in between the first roar/earthquack and the explosion sending everyone to the streets. But there could have been some sort of time lapse in between where the character "HUD" wasn't filming.

Also, from the point where everyone was watching the news report to the time they were on the roof- ANYTHING could have happened in between.

Meaning, the helecopters could have shown the monster rising out of the water, popping off Lady Liberty's head, toss the tanker into the city, walked into the city without Rob or anyone knowing because everyone was on the roof when it could have taken place.

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Also, from the point where everyone was watching the news report to the time they were on the roof- ANYTHING could have happened in between.

Meaning, the helecopters could have shown the monster rising out of the water, popping off Lady Liberty's head, toss the tanker into the city, walked into the city without Rob or anyone knowing because everyone was on the roof when it could have taken place.


Hey- Maybe GP jumped outta the water like a whale thinking the copters are like birds.

Imagine this-
"OMG. Our copters were taken out by giant whale!!!"
"Seriously?"
"YES!!!"
"Maybe the marshmallow man's walking down Time's Square, huh?"
BOOOM. Explosion occurs.
"OMG teh Marshmallowness is attacking!!"

But fer real, they should have just stayed in their apartment. Use cable TV at it's full extent.

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Okay. Time to get serious. If the movie really lapses like that, will there be a chance at the end of the movie where an Army official turns on the camera and starts to view its contents? If so, I have a totally sequel-making ending:

-End of PoV as the camera shuts off. Reverts to Hollywood style film-
Some Army General talking to the Dept. of Def in Washington D.C.

"And so, ladies and gentlemen of the Department of Defence, as you see in this "Cloverfield" evidence, we're dealing with something surreal. An order for immediate wartime supplies must be ordered- this thing is still out there. While we are still safe in D.C., I reccomend..."

Monster Roar. GP is approaching the nation's capital.
Screams and everything as GP is attacked by emergency forces.
Boom. GP is on the screen in full HD view, not the Handheld view. The General sees it out of the window and curses. GP goes into a seizure and grows. Now it's waay larger than before.

The monster yells out a more intense roar as jets, tanks, and soldiers engage into battle.

Screen says either "To be continued..." or the credits roll.


This is one of the best cliffhangers that I can think of.

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