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[Q] Date of Attack
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 		Re: The 1-18-08 website is Meta
rhesusmonkeyboy wrote:

I believe the incongruity of having photos ( with writing on the back ) is due to the fact that first and foremost this is an advertising campaign, not an ARE for *our* sake.

Hence I'm of the opinion it is a meta-site, spanning in-game and out-of game.

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This is correct, as all the ARE stuff is in real time, not from the future.

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 		Military won't respond yet. Bush will blame the attack on Iran, and then we'll respond by attacking them.

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 		Or the liberal media could fool us into believing it's actually a puppy peeing on the buildings and knocking them down.

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vonh wrote:
Or the liberal media could fool us into believing it's actually a puppy peeing on the buildings and knocking them down.


Yeah. The "liberal" media wouldn't want us to know what's really happening... They want us to think the Iranians sent a giant dog to...

Sorry, but that was a bad example. A giant puppy???

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 		Giant puppy with toxic pee. Shocked

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vonh wrote:
Giant puppy with toxic pee. Shocked


Let it die.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Roztox wrote:
Im sure the party dudes had time to take some shots, on a regular
digital camera...(Before the 'going away party' really gets going)
Download pic's onto PC, print them onto nice glossy paper...
And scribble stuff on the back, It would not take that long to do.


So you think they stopped and happily printed at least three of the photos *after* the initial attack, oblivious of the building-sized monster trotting through town? Razz


The two girls picture is lit much like the street during the SOL landing. So there's plenty of time to print a couple pictures, given the footage now that shows the first five minutes or so post earthquake. The party probably started before midnight, then two party pics taken right after midnight. 30 minutes or so later, earthquake. Minutes after that, the pic of Lil and Lena.

Jamie could have requested they print the pictures and then wrote her notes on them. Photo printers are cheap these days, and they come with photo paper.

Any pictures taken after 12:04 were probably recovered and printed by the military or someone else.

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 		So hear me out, cause I just might be right on this one. Notice the only pics with writing on the back, are pics takin before the "earthquake". So they probably were taking pictures during the party and printing them out. This explains how the writing got on the back of the pics. The ones after the "earthquake" were found in the remains of the camera, explaing why there is no writing on the back. This allows for the writing to be on the appropriate party themed images, and for the timestamps to be correctly stamped 1-18-08.

The website just timelines the night/morning(however you want to phrase it). Giving us a fair understanding of what happened that evening, before we got ourselves a good trailer/5 minute widget.

The pictures start at around 12am when it just turns to the 18th. The attack seems to be overnight, which means we are watching the video of what happened the morning of 1-18-08. Which means if we see the movie on 1-18-08, we are watching what happened that morning...
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 		I tell you, I really think the filmmakers screwed the pooch on the whole 1-18-08 NOT being the date of the attack.

I believe it when Reeves says that Jan 18 was never the intended day of the attack. With the success of the trailer and mysterious new website immediately found in July (www.1-18-08.com) everyone assumed the 1-18-08 was the day of the attack…with good reason, the digital photo's on the website had date and timestamps on each picture of the party and aftermath…who wouldn't think that was the night of the attack, and pretty much right at midnight! Perfect timing no less!

However, from the start, there were continuity errors with Jan 18. The biggest was the temperature of 63 degrees on the television as well as the lightly dressed party goers…it never added up so we all came up with theories that tied in with global warming waking up a monster, etc, etc.

Looking back on everything now, I think the producers were not prepared for the assumption that Jan 18 would be the attack day…the date and timestamps were just there to reinforce the release date…the continuity errors regarding the temperature were not errors…its most likely what the temps were running at night in June when the teaser was filmed (btw, do you know what the average low temp for NYC in June is…63 degrees!) I don't think any particular date was ever envisioned by the filmmakers, just some generic "present day" approach.

I also think the filmmakers were slow to figure this out and by the time they did, there was not much they could do to adjust the marketing/ARE portion of the film. I'm guessing sometime in late August, early September, the realized there was a problem. I think there was an indication once the picture of the Japanese Chef was put on the site…and the fact that almost 3 ½ months later, absolutely no activity on 1-18-08.com. I'm guessing it's a dead site.

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get to know the background of Rob's transfer to Japan, his relationship with Beth, how the monster is exactly found, escapes and heads to NYC BEFORE the film is released…some tidbits, but not much else…just continued build-up, etc. Its possible the back-story may continue after Jan 18 to fully explain everything, but as much as I hate to admit, I've lost some interest because of the date snafu.

I hope I'm wrong on a lot of what I just wrote and we do find out what happens, but I feel like a lot of the wind was sucked out of this promotion/experience once Reeves made his comments on Jan 18 as only being the release date.

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 		Re: [Q] Date of Attack
IESB wrote:
The date had played such a huge role in the advertising. Is it true that if you to see this on the day it comes out, 1-18-08, the date in the film is actually that date as well?


Reeves wrote:
No, that's not true. The date has become because, again, we didn't have the title in the teaser and so that was a way of letting people know what it was. I think the two ways people referred to the movie where by its codename, Cloverfield, because there was knowledge of that, and just by the date. The reveal is really what happens in the story and the way it unfolds and the sort of mysteries in that world. The date is just the date we come out and when everyone gets to see the movie.



Alright. I don't really see how everyone interprets this as Matt saying the movie doesn't - at least partly - take place on the 18th. All he's really saying, as I read it, is that the date in the film isn't only 1/18/08. That could easily mean that the movie spans more than one date; this could mean something as simple as the movie concerning itself with the finding of the video footage, which would almost certainly not occur on the same night as the attack.

Strategically, they could just be trying to throw people off by saying "no, the date in the film is not 1/18/08" when the "real" truth could be more along the lines of "1/18/08 is only one of the dates that this movie is concerned with." In which case, technically, they wouldn't really be lying to us in order to cover the plot of the movie.

Not to mention it's a better, more controversial, answer than "sorry, we can't really talk about that."
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 		Maybe the initial attack officially begins on 1-17-08. Maybe reeves is just trying to confuse the hell out of us. Wouldn't be the first time in this arg/viral campaign.

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 		If the statement by Reeves is indeed true, it could be because the film is not a international simultaneous release.

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However, from the start, there were continuity errors with Jan 18. The biggest was the temperature of 63 degrees on the television as well as the lightly dressed party goers…it never added up so we all came up with theories that tied in with global warming waking up a monster, etc, etc.


I'll admit, I was one of the people trying to come up with theories dealing with an extremely warm January. The problem I still have with the teaser is that the filmmakers put that temperature on there. That was not a real newscast, they created it. Why did they put a temperature there? I guess I feel it's a little silly to call a movie by it's release date if it has nothing to do with that date. All in all, I'm hoping Reeves was just trying to throw a wrench into everything and it's not true.

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 		Back to the topic being discussed earlier in this thread about the possibility of the attack occuring IG, I sure as hell hope not. Dont you think that would kind of ruin the movie in some manner? I mean unless they just somehow let us know that its occuring, but anything more than that and I feel it would mess the movie up. And on the whole date of attack thing, I hope theres more to this than a screw up by them. This team of people seem to be top notch and I would hope something as obvious as this wouldnt just get past them like that. Theres gotta be something yet to be revealed or as said, theyre just doing it to throw everyone off for the time being
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Lupinicus wrote:
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However, from the start, there were continuity errors with Jan 18. The biggest was the temperature of 63 degrees on the television as well as the lightly dressed party goers…it never added up so we all came up with theories that tied in with global warming waking up a monster, etc, etc.


I'll admit, I was one of the people trying to come up with theories dealing with an extremely warm January. The problem I still have with the teaser is that the filmmakers put that temperature on there. That was not a real newscast, they created it. Why did they put a temperature there? I guess I feel it's a little silly to call a movie by it's release date if it has nothing to do with that date. All in all, I'm hoping Reeves was just trying to throw a wrench into everything and it's not true.


If the temperature was so important, global warming and all that, why didn't it appear in the widget?

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