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[Q] Date of Attack
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Anteros
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suckaH wrote:
To anteros, what exactly was your theory? I remember reading about it back in the day (good days those were), but don't remember the entirety of it. I'd be interested to hear it again.


Oh dude... that's probably buried somewhere in that 380+ page thread... and it wasn't my theory. I believed it from the beginning but if I had to go on memory alone, I believe it was Melampus who first fleshed out exactly why the time stamps were on those pics.

Perhaps he'd like to jump in here somewhere...
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Its not just the pics. Its that Tagruato and Tidowave are on this timeline. Even if its not an ARG, why have all this buildup only to skip six months into the summer

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You're assuming this "game" ends on 1/18... what if the ARG world continues? What if we have to pretend that the movie hasn't happened yet? That the attack will happen eventually, and we all know the outcome, but we can see the progress towards that.

Maybe the date of the attack is the day the DVD comes out? Smile

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Anteros wrote:
suckaH wrote:
To anteros, what exactly was your theory? I remember reading about it back in the day (good days those were), but don't remember the entirety of it. I'd be interested to hear it again.


Oh dude... that's probably buried somewhere in that 380+ page thread... and it wasn't my theory. I believed it from the beginning but if I had to go on memory alone, I believe it was Melampus who first fleshed out exactly why the time stamps were on those pics.

Perhaps he'd like to jump in here somewhere...

No worries, no need to dig through that shitstorm. I wish that curse upon no man.

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I do believe that it will continue after the movie like an investigation in Tag but I dont truly believe they would do that. WHats the point of keeping it up with Tag and Tidowave. If thats what their going to do then whats the point.

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InAFieldofClover wrote:
StayPuftMarshmallowMan wrote:
InAFieldofClover wrote:
I think Reeves was misquoted. He seems to spout off more about how the movie was never going to be called '1-18-08'.


Yeah, I was thinking that its going to happen on January 18. Why would they have a bunch of pics and Tagruato and Tidowave all moving towards that date. They are all of sudden just gonna skip ahead.


Either he was misquoted or there's going to be a huge continuity error. There's no possible explanation for why this all wouldn't happen on 1-18-08. I could buy into the fact that selected photos were taken of the camera found, but the inscriptions on the back were obviously made by the characters. Hell, on one, Jamie even writes in the top right hand corner of the photo "JANUARY '08".

I'm sticking with the theory that Reeves was misquoted. Another theory I saw was that the whole viral marketing campaign, in terms of the ARG/E, is over and everything's been disregarded. But that can't be it since we're still getting new updates, be it by Tidowave or memos being sent via e-mail. I have a feeling that we'll get a clarification on the quote sooner than later.

Excellent point about the inscription by Jamie!
That means that the party has to happen between January 1 and January 18th - unless you really think they are showing us future events, fully processed in the past tense.

About removing the temperature suggesting that it was the failure of continuity instead of the date...
The temperature was only a small item seen in one element of this whole promotion. The date is plastered all over pictures and is the site's name. If the implication was not that the date it happens is 1-18-08, you't think they'd want to dump that post haste, and ignore the temperature issue. The opposite is true, so I'm inclined to believe the date is more correct in continuity than the temperature.

Considering the fact of the timely inscription by Jamie on that one picture, if this isn't actually supposed to be when the events happen, someone working on continuity for this whole project needs a severe beating with a stupid stick.
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Euchre wrote:

Excellent point about the inscription by Jamie!
That means that the party has to happen between January 1 and January 18th - unless you really think they are showing us future events, fully processed in the past tense.

About removing the temperature suggesting that it was the failure of continuity instead of the date...
The temperature was only a small item seen in one element of this whole promotion. The date is plastered all over pictures and is the site's name. If the implication was not that the date it happens is 1-18-08, you't think they'd want to dump that post haste, and ignore the temperature issue. The opposite is true, so I'm inclined to believe the date is more correct in continuity than the temperature.

Considering the fact of the timely inscription by Jamie on that one picture, if this isn't actually supposed to be when the events happen, someone working on continuity for this whole project needs a severe beating with a stupid stick.

Totally agree and thank you for putting it so well, Euchre. This is exactly what I was trying to say earlier in the thread but didn't accomplish. I know it's been discussed before, but timestamps on photos are normally (i.e. in the real world) created when the photo is taken, not when it is printed/developed. Obviously, the military could do whatever they want with the photos including a post-developing addition of a timestamp... but doesn't that just seem silly? Aren't the simplest answers normally the correct ones? It seems to me that the simplest explanation is that the photos were taken on 1/18/08. The writing on the back does seem a bit odd, but it is feasible that those were printed out at the party. I'm still going to hope that Reeves was misquoted.

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It makes sense that the pictures were printed to hand them to Rob at the party ... they could have sent them to his email afterwards, but his friends would not be able to sign them

now.. about the chef and the attack pictures... it beats me.

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I just think that Reeves was misquoted. More points to the events of the film taking place on January 18th than any other date. The website's pictures, the pictures' inscriptions, the temperature being changed in the film, etc. Reeves going on record now as saying the film doesn't take place in January seems a little too fishy. It's too late to go back on the events of the film taking place any other time. Everything in this ARG/E has been building to that date.

You could say that maybe the writers are abandoning the ARG/E, and by doing so, they can rewrite other things. But we're still getting updates. As mishandled as this whole thing has been, it's still thriving, and still pointing to one specific date: 1-18-08.

If they're switching the date of the party, that could explain some things, however. For one, it could explain Jamie's absence. It could also explain why there was no timestamp on the sixth 1-18-08.com picture. (unless it's a recipe card)

There's still no reason to switch it up, however, and besides Reeves' quote, I haven't seen anything to indicate that another date would make sense whatsoever, unless the ARG/E suddenly comes to a screeching halt. And then again, there's still that matter of the Slusho contest and a possible sixth Jamie video. So unless Jamie is done, and Abrams is going to disassociate Slusho from Cloverfield as that one report seemed to indicate, this thing will thrive for a while longer, while lending legitimacy to the "The movie takes place on 1-18-08" thing.

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InAFieldofClover wrote:
As mishandled as this whole thing has been...


it's been kind of slow. you're right

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