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Sylvia
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Wow LeggusKultain, I am amazed. You really know your stuff. You're on a roll, don't stop now. Rock On Shocked Silly

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:45 am
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Darren Knight
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Falthis has given me his challenge. He has given me the answer as well. I can tell you this without breaking my oath, this is going to be a tough one. I wish you luck (for Metatron's sake)

I am to give these two files to you and tell you this:

"The answer is what old Bill would consider John as Grey"

One last thing. The answer to this challenge is not only the answer, but the question to which it responds.

I have the files but i cant add them so PM me your email so i can send them to you. I cant attatch the bmp files Sad
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Sylvia
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Falthis Challenge to Us number one

ok here is the challenge. good luck!

the original bmp files are in challenge.zip download from here: http://tinyurl.com/37n4dr

the ones displayed here are converted from bmp to jpg

I also combined the two to make one large image. (see next post)
challenge.1.jpg
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challenge.2.jpg
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Sylvia
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combined images

the images combined
combined.jpg
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combined.jpg


PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:38 am
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Satire
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Not Fun.
Your turn.

I've attached the first ten lines, transcribed. I didn't format it the same as what we were given, but the text is identical.

It's Wingdings, in case anyone was puzzled over it. The mailboxes are the period. The arrow thingie is a lowercase "f." I'll leave the other symbols as an exercise to the reader.

There's a hundred and ten lines.
First10Lines.doc
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doc

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nextday
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Decoding the message by hand, using wingdings, I found them all to represent Periods, numbers 1-9, and the letters f and k. The mailboxes are just periods. Decoding this gave me this which is in sequential order from left to right.

1st Half:
1(...)1(...)6(...)5(...)f(...)8(...)1(...)23(...)26(...)k(...)15(...)3(...)19(...)1(...)18(...)1(...)1(...)21(...)8(...)19(...)95(...)20(...)23(...)41(5 immediately on next line)(...)23(...)88(...)9(...)

2nd Half:
88(...)9(...)9(...)12(...)12(...)1(...)20(...)14(...)19(...)20(...)2(0 immediately on next line) (...)12(...)11(...)9(...)16(...)15(...)19(...)20(...)3(...)5(...)18(...)85(...)19(...)7(...)5(...)519(...)8(...)5(...)4(...)5(...)1(...)1(...)14(...)20(...)2(...)5(...)13(...)5(...)18(...)19(...)19(...)


Just characters if needed: 1165f812326k15319118112181995202341523889889912121201419202012119161519203518851975519854511142025135181919


I didn't bother to count the periods between each character, but it might be important if anyone wants to do that.
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Sylvia
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to be honest, it looks like a [google]autostereogram[/google] / [google]magic eye sterogram[/google] to me. but I'm having a hard time making it out.

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nextday
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I'm pretty good at those and I can't make anything out even though it might be possible. Wouldn't there have to be more variation of characters for that to work though?
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Sylvia
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nextday wrote:
I'm pretty good at those and I can't make anything out even though it might be possible. Wouldn't there have to be more variation of characters for that to work though?

I don't know. When I look at it I see things standing out but that may just be coincidence.

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LeggusKultain
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Dead end on the roleplay front--I think BS thought I might be another PM or some other conspirator messing with him. So I'm firing one more shot across his bow and then I'm back to enjoying the ride.

Turns out bobby doesn't have any oog of knowledge of the mythology of the Angels at all---he just reads really poorly researched wikipedia articles.
Our latest and possibly last exchange:

You had your chance Secondborn--deny, deny, deny, deny all you wish. The lore is written, and you will be done. Perhaps the next to be foolish enough to take up the captain's crown will be more worthy. Fools go unmourned, as you will. When you are falling for 10000 years remember my name and know that i offered you my sword and you refused it. After Falthis is done with you, do you think the Name will show you any more mercy? The Son was sacrificed for men, not for your kind.
Prideful wretch, is it any wonder you let your brother fall?
Gideon
Destroyer of False Altars
Son of Azazel
Nephilim



On Dec 20, 2007 12:33 AM, Bobby Singer <singersaint> wrote:
You name me nothing... You know not of what you speak. I am no Melchizedek, that human moniker is reserved for the Salem Saint. We are done here Gideon, seek out others who have time for your games.


On Dec 19, 2007 9:55 PM, Gideon <gideonthebrutal> wrote:
I name thee Melchizedek. The one who would be "like" God. Watch that line secondborn, for your brothers have crossed it before.
I would warn you not to believe the false words of those who would name you Christ, messenger.
Your time is not yet.
Trust in The Name,
Gideon


On Dec 19, 2007 9:38 PM, Bobby Singer <singersaint> wrote:
If you be of the highborn or lowborn then speak ye my true name, to those on the firmament I am known as Michael, Archangel. Gideon as proof to your blood, your lineage, your knowledge or your cause, speak first my true name or hold your wicked tongue.


On Dec 19, 2007 8:17 PM, Gideon <gideonthebrutal> wrote:
Who and What I am is my business at the present moment.
My name, as it is spoken, is Gideon. Trust in that.
You will know more when the time is right and the proper stones are turned.
I know of you, your kind, and your cause of old. I found you because you made enough noise, secondborn.
I found you because you can't fold your wings for the life of you, nor can you or your friend stay off of either radar.
The way I see it, you have a choice: speak and deal with one who actually speaks the first tongue and might be able to string more than a web of mortal letters against the dying of your friend's light, or else face those shadows with the wavering confidence an army of dulled and ill-used swords brings.
As for your tone seeming unfeeling. If I had time to weep, I'd shed enough tears to wash us both clean, but I do not.
I do not apologize for my tone but If we shadows have offended, think but this (and all is mended), that you have but slumber'd here, while these visions did appear, and this weak and idle theme, no more yielding but a dream.
Trust in the name.
Gideon
Knowledge:Justice:Vengeance
0:t:J:7:18

On Dec 19, 2007 4:57 PM, Bobby Singer <singersaint> wrote:
Gideon I am not sure who you are, but you don't speak like the others trying to help Nathan. You sound informed and possibly in(un?)human... I did not answer your first inquiry because you sound almost threatening and the last thing I need is another problem to deal with. If you are truly on our side I would ask that you tell me how you learned of me and what you know of Nathan Cade? I am sorry if this comes across as blunt and unfeeling, but in my case I must be very careful as to whom I place my trust in.

SS

On Dec 19, 2007 3:45 PM, Gideon <gideonthebrutal> wrote:
My Name is Gideon,
You may and will call me otherwise. The others are failing you. I can help.
Trust in the name.
-Gideon.

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southernbitch
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I am currently fighting with my computer to be able to work and view the files better. My only thought is, has anyone been able to possibly layer them one over the other. Just to see if anything pops out. It looks like if you matched up the two side bars you could make it one document, I just don't know how to do it.

Just my initial thoughts when looking at it.
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southernbitch
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On a different angle, I have been working on the clue that came with the riddle. I found a web site called "The Old Bill" and it seems to have a lot of religious writings. It seems possible that they are pointing us there. I did find a passage from the book of John, but can't figure out the grey part. Here is the link to the web site, let me know what u think.

http://theoldbill.typepad.com/
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MuteWitness
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I checked through that site, the post about John is from 2006 (so unless it was backdated, there's probably not much there). I didn't notice anything in the source either but it's a bit messy so I could have overlooked something. The site also gets into a lot of stuff about the Christian left wing, homosexuality and the bible, etc, I'd be surprised to see the PM getting on a soapbox for the ARG. Good call on following the clues, working both angles should produce something.

Another note on the same line, although it could be completely irrelevant, I'm seeing a lot of references to police when I search Old Bill. Probably nothing, but at least keep it in mind in case you stumble on a connection.

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southernbitch
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I have noticed the same kind of extreme religion...I also felt it probably wasn't connected because of that, but felt it was worth going through and posting.

Oh, well, will just have to keep looking.
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phulkrum
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Darren Knight wrote:
SS wrote:

"The answer is what old Bill would consider John as Grey"


Can a .bmp be stegged? has it been checked at all?

Also, the clue leaves me wondering "Grey" is capitalized- why? It is also an alternate spelling of Gray. I wonder if this is done purposefully- a synonym for gray is old, maybe old Bill thinks John is older?

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