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[INFO] the MAYDAY text
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One of the MAYDAY texts makes reference to phasmids, which are stick and leaf bugs.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:54 pm
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[INFO] "Phasmidia Elegans"

Ok, maybe I'm just getting worried that we're missing something...but does anyone want to take a closer look at "Phasmidia Elegans", the name from the mayday texts? When I google it, only sites related to ilovebees appear. Could there be an anagram in it?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:14 pm
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astashenko
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http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Phasmidia+Elegans

If anyone wants to pick through that go ahead, heh. There are probably better tools but I'll look through it a little.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:18 pm
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toad
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P. elegans

FYI:

Quote:
Noun 1. Phasmidia - one of two subgroups of Nematoda used in some classification systems
class Phasmidia
Aschelminthes, Nematoda, phylum Aschelminthes, phylum Nematoda - unsegmented worms: roundworms; threadworms; eelworms
class - (biology) a taxonomic group containing one or more orders


Phasmidia elegans is a little tiny worm, which may go into a dormant state when presented with a harsh environment, and a parasitic stage when they aren't feeding on bacteria.

The Operator's mention of this seems to refer to going dormant given the rough environment she is in (sand, "I hate being here", etc.), like a nematode, IMHO.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:59 pm
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Don't for get the wider mention of phasmids.
Quote:
Phasmid \Phas"mid\,
n. [See Phasm. Probably so called from its mimicking, or appearing like, inanimate objects.] (Zo["o]l.)
Any orthopterous insect of the family Phasmid[ae], as a leaf insect or a stick insect.


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Quote:
phasmid
n : large cylindrical or flattened mostly tropical insects with long strong legs that feed on plants; walking sticks and leaf insects [syn: phasmid insect]


This more insect based interpretation could be more important (SPiDeR, Widow, etc), but the overtones of mimicking something also ring bells for me.
A parasitic, possibly evolving worm/insect.... something taking upon a form if which it in reality is not.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:54 pm
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P. elegans

Phasmidia elegans is a type of nematode, a very tiny worm. The reference to the stickbug, etc., is interesting, but I tink we can assume the Operator is refering directly to the worm, as she has included the whole name of that specific species.

C. elegans, about which there is much more data readily available, apparently lives in the dirt, which fits the Operators comment about the sandbox. Unfortunately, I can't find any info indicating that P. elegans is also soil-dwelling. The Operator is well-versed in a highly-specific and obscure worm. Wierd.

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Re: [INFO] "Phasmidia Elegans"

drizjr wrote:
When I google it, only sites related to ilovebees appear.


Google without the quote marks. This thing is a parasite living in sandboxes, which is why it refers to itself as "the scourge of the sandbox".

and yes, i'm probably supposed to TROUT myself now and find the link to where this was already mentioned...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:08 pm
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I've set Anagram Genius loose on this "Phasmidia Elegans" thing and here are some interesting anagrams it came up with :

* "a misleading shape"
* "I'm a pleasing shade"

Probably doesn't mean anything, but I might as well let you guys know Smile

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:33 pm
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"Phasmidia Elegans" anagrammatized ---> Signal ship, Mae Dae.
ok, ok, I know it's a stretch, but I had to try.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:36 pm
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anagrams

from http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=Phasmidia+Elegans

Phasmidia Elegans=> "I'm held in a passage" ( I added the " ' ")

could yoda-ise it to => "held in passage, I am..."

or simply=> "I am held in passage"

passage hidden in the images? .... or in plain view on the "untampered" site

is something trapped in the text?

anyway...
I think that the ammount of possibilities that it generates are pretty extreme for someone to scan each one manually (possible waste of time in other words)

(p.s. i'm new at this, but i don't mind constructive criticism)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:34 am
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sorry if this is trout.

Quote:
no matter how hard I try to save what I have made, sooner or later the spiders wash over it and melt it down I'm losing the memory already I can't see myself was I wearing a dress or overalls or ...? There's a boy on the beach next to me but a wave comes up foaming with spiders and takes away his face-

oh.

we're made of sand.

we're both made of sand.


it seems that the spiders in the passage above are something destructive and are to be feared (spiders destroy sand, she and the boy are made of sand). however, she is also repaired by a spider (SPDR).

(in-text):
Quote:
Gap in the clouds: head suddenly much clearer.

The spider is working on me.


so why are spiders sometimes destructive and sometimes the opposite?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:20 pm
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It suggests, the mayday stories that is, that there are two 'things' with one voice. At least, that is what I get out of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:58 pm
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I found the following while searching for information on Phasmidia Elegans:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3230/is_1_33/ai_69759773

which contained the following info (in the 2nd paragraph):

'The basis for separating them into classes is determined by the presence or absence of a phasmid, a small sensory organ, probably a chemoreceptor located on the suffice of the nematode.'

Further searching reveals that the Phasmidia subclass posesses a phasmid, the Aphasmidia subclass does not.

If you take Phasmidia Elegans as being a worm of the nematode family, then the reference to the becoming a 'phasmid' could mean that The Operator is becoming a sensory organ of some kind.

I tend to think that the phasmid reference is more stick insect oriented and to me suggests that The Operator needs to remain camoflaged for the time being by not moving (like a stick insect).

EDIT : The camoflage aspect of the stick insect has already been mentioned elsewhere in the forums. Apologies, this is my first time here.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 4:32 pm
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[SPEC,Connection] Survival rule #3

Hi,

the sentence "Survival rule #3: How badly are you hurt" took me to this site after a quick search.

I quote:

Quote:

"First things first, Rule Number Three: don't panic. (...)

Next, assess your injuries. How badly are you hurt? Can you move? Make sure you stabilize yourself before doing anything. Stop the bleeding. Immobilize any breaks. Treat for shock. The greatest danger to your survival immediately after an accident is the natural tendency to go into shock."


As far as I can tell, that "How badly are you hurt" is still a part of the third rule. Rule #1: "always ensure that someone knows where you are going to be." Well, our attention is certainly on this being, whatever it is, so we know where it is. Where is it going to be when the first and second countdown reach zero? I don't know.

Rule #2: "always ensure that you are appropriately dressed for the weather." I'm not sure what to say about this. But maybe related to "head full of sand"?

Rule #4: "never go into the field without a basic survival kit". There are several references to tools in the site. The Widows's tools, the command line tools being invoked all over the place, etc.

Rule #5: "do whatever you have to do to ensure your survival". As in take over websites so a gazillion people free you into cyberspace?

Rule #6: "decide on a course of action". That one is completely up to us, IMO. The clock is ticking, and the being trapped on the site has already set a course. What is it that we're supposed to do?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:48 pm
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ok, i'm a little tired but i'm gonna take a stab at this. I think this is most definatly halo 2 related as stated earlier in the thread. In halo, didn't the master chief take the AI in order for it to avoid being in the covenent hands? If so, this may just be another AI behind enemy lines. A downed ship. Hence, all those startup scripts where it's attempting to boot or access a file and it's only followed by a "fail"
either it's being bypassed, it's been damaged, or it's been taken out.

another thing was the memories. A memory arose and then was taken away. Then i remember reading something about a referal to the queen and how she takes things and made them her own. She would sacrafice her most trusted and with her new eyes etc etc.

also, there's another thing that's been itching at me, with all this "tide" and "spiders" reminds me of the flood. Maybe they weren't as wiped out as ya thought?

anyways, that's my take on the situation right now, Ships AI is captured, is trying to fight, somehow regains power/consiousness and sends out a signal, but shortly after the signal is put down by whoever it's captors is. It tries to fight off it's captors but ultimatly will continue failing. This AI needs help and it needs help fast, or the covenant are going to penetrate the AI's memory and give all it's diagnostics on earth and the fleet to the covenent creating an invasion of earth Smile

and if i'm right, then i'm saying it now. Damn I'm good, lol

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