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Jenive
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JimiJons wrote:

Actually, you may be right.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=245IRLMKnZE
In this video of the production, you see a camera filming Rob and Beth, and when the rubble falls, Rob uses BOTH arms to shield Beth. You can't film yourself using both of your arms to shield a girl from falling rubble... unless it is an exterior camera, or there is a cameraman right in front of you.

I think they may be meshing the 2 filming methods together. I theorize that the movie will follow specifically the experience of the main group of kids, but it will not be limited to HUD's camera view. Who said it has to be like Blair Witch?


I didn't notice that neither.
Well this makes me feel better then.
Because this means we'll see a good shot of the monster.
I don't think its possible to run and shoot steady film
at the same time.

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xboyonfirex wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
All of the new footage in the commercials and especially when i saw the preview before I Am Legend seemed very cleaned up than previously.Look at that scene from the trailer, when they just show the bombing and not them on the roof and compare it to that shot now, it looks a hella lot crisper and not hand held, so i definitely agree it doesnt look hand held, but that may be why


I'll agree on that one, but unless HUD's a licensed helecopter pilot, I don't understand why there's sky footage of the city before the attack, or even before night fall.


Yeah thats what I wondered. I also thought I had scene this shot in a trailer before. Then I realized I think I've seen this shot in lots of movies set in New York I think they just want people who don't know the movie is set in New York to know it's set in New York.

Now as for that scene with the three of them huddled together, I have no clue

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JimiJons wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
All of the new footage in the commercials and especially when i saw the preview before I Am Legend seemed very cleaned up than previously.Look at that scene from the trailer, when they just show the bombing and not them on the roof and compare it to that shot now, it looks a hella lot crisper and not hand held, so i definitely agree it doesnt look hand held, but that may be why


Actually, you may be right.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=245IRLMKnZE
In this video of the production, you see a camera filming Rob and Beth, and when the rubble falls, Rob uses BOTH arms to shield Beth. You can't film yourself using both of your arms to shield a girl from falling rubble... unless it is an exterior camera, or there is a cameraman right in front of you.

I think they may be meshing the 2 filming methods together. I theorize that the movie will follow specifically the experience of the main group of kids, but it will not be limited to HUD's camera view. Who said it has to be like Blair Witch?


Actually, I thought Abrams' said it would be shot all in hand held perspective? I mean, I really hope it is... It would really take the realism out of a movie where a Giant monster stomps a mudhole in NYC.

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JimiJons wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
All of the new footage in the commercials and especially when i saw the preview before I Am Legend seemed very cleaned up than previously.Look at that scene from the trailer, when they just show the bombing and not them on the roof and compare it to that shot now, it looks a hella lot crisper and not hand held, so i definitely agree it doesnt look hand held, but that may be why


Actually, you may be right.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=245IRLMKnZE
In this video of the production, you see a camera filming Rob and Beth, and when the rubble falls, Rob uses BOTH arms to shield Beth. You can't film yourself using both of your arms to shield a girl from falling rubble... unless it is an exterior camera, or there is a cameraman right in front of you.

I think they may be meshing the 2 filming methods together. I theorize that the movie will follow specifically the experience of the main group of kids, but it will not be limited to HUD's camera view. Who said it has to be like Blair Witch?


Its not HUD filming it, its just filler footage, kind of a epilogue and prologue to the other footage
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 		I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'm sure all the shots like that were made purely for the trailer to give the audience a grander idea of what will happen in the movie.

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blaaaaaah wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'm sure all the shots like that were made purely for the trailer to give the audience a grander idea of what will happen in the movie.


Could be, could be. Well find out on the 18th
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 		And it's not logical that he sat the camera down or dropped it before the rubble fell?

OMG Maybe Rob and Beth die and that's where the camera is found!

EDIT: And I don't see a camera but a light and two fat guys.

EDIT 2: And the black sheet indicates the camera would be facing the opening not the other way around, even if you see a shape somewhere in that darkness that you think is a camera, I'm not buying it.

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MulletMan wrote:
two fat guys.


Maybe those are the smaller monsters.

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blaaaaaah wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I'm sure all the shots like that were made purely for the trailer to give the audience a grander idea of what will happen in the movie.


I can agree with that but I also think they will give us a few shots of the city in a more cinematical view to give us a grand view of the destruction the monster has causes. BUt who knows.

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 		-_-

my pc is being a douche,
but I did find it and it seems as though it may be hand held.

In this shot it appears as if the camera seems higher than


in this shot.

But, the camera seems level to the three.

I was wrong, it looks hand held. :-/

So, I think its safe to say this scene is hand held.
However, I don't know about the NYC overview.

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 		I, personally hope it starts and stops as though someone turns the video camera and and the batteries go dead... no overview, no theatrical hooblah... just handycam stuff.

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xboyonfirex wrote:
I, personally hope it starts and stops as though someone turns the video camera and and the batteries go dead... no overview, no theatrical hooblah... just handycam stuff.


you mean all the way through?
I just want to get a good look at the monster.

I just thought about something that may be in your face obvious
(and may have been discussed...don't know)
but maybe the scenes that are not shot hand held are an indication that
Hud is dead. o_O

It's too obvious to even discuss. -_- @ me.
Let me go now, my pc is annoying me.

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Jenive wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
I, personally hope it starts and stops as though someone turns the video camera and and the batteries go dead... no overview, no theatrical hooblah... just handycam stuff.


you mean all the way through?
I just want to get a good look at the monster.

I just thought about something that may be in your face obvious
(and may have been discussed...don't know)
but maybe the scenes that are not shot hand held are an indication that
Hud is dead. o_O

It's too obvious to even discuss. -_- @ me.
Let me go now, my pc is annoying me.


yes all the way through. this whole switching from handycam to professional theatrical cameras would be utterly pointless...

And even Matt Reeves likes that "in your face" perspective that the handy cams give.

A key aspect of achieving that you-are-there feel in Cloverfield was by mimicking the man-on-the-street camcorder perspective that has become an everyday part of our lives. The film is shot in such a way as to appear to be "found footage" from just such a camcorder that was in use, on and off, throughout the attack on New York by the monster (or monsters) that has only been hinted at so far in the trailers. The idea, according to Reeves, is that since this footage has been found and is unedited, every time the camera cuts out indicates a jump forward in time. And in fact, the only cuts in the film are when the camera gets turned off:

"You'll be watching a continuous take and all of a sudden you'll jump forward, and the idea was that in those sort of elliptical moments, you suddenly have to piece together what the story is," says the director. "And we thought it would be really great if the first 15 or 20 minutes of the movie are all about meeting these characters in this kind of mysterious, fun way, and you start to get this connection to them, and then all of a sudden have them basically go through this event. … Obviously we have the option of putting jump cuts all over the place, but I thought, 'Well, if I'm one of those characters and some of those things are happening, I wouldn't turn off the camera. I would just keep watching.' And that presented its own challenges because then in a movie you have to bridge together what would be many, many visual effects and do it in one shot." - Matt Reeves.

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xboyonfirex wrote:


yes all the way through. this whole switching from handycam to professional theatrical cameras would be utterly pointless...

And even Matt Reeves likes that "in your face" perspective that the handy cams give.

A key aspect of achieving that you-are-there feel in Cloverfield was by mimicking the man-on-the-street camcorder perspective that has become an everyday part of our lives. The film is shot in such a way as to appear to be "found footage" from just such a camcorder that was in use, on and off, throughout the attack on New York by the monster (or monsters) that has only been hinted at so far in the trailers. The idea, according to Reeves, is that since this footage has been found and is unedited, every time the camera cuts out indicates a jump forward in time. And in fact, the only cuts in the film are when the camera gets turned off:

"You'll be watching a continuous take and all of a sudden you'll jump forward, and the idea was that in those sort of elliptical moments, you suddenly have to piece together what the story is," says the director. "And we thought it would be really great if the first 15 or 20 minutes of the movie are all about meeting these characters in this kind of mysterious, fun way, and you start to get this connection to them, and then all of a sudden have them basically go through this event. … Obviously we have the option of putting jump cuts all over the place, but I thought, 'Well, if I'm one of those characters and some of those things are happening, I wouldn't turn off the camera. I would just keep watching.' And that presented its own challenges because then in a movie you have to bridge together what would be many, many visual effects and do it in one shot." - Matt Reeves.


Last thing, then I really must go.
Thanks for that. I had not read that.
Interesting. At this point, my only concern is
getting a good look at the monster.
All I desire to see is a full body shot
of whatever it is...if that can be accomplished during the
handy cam action then I'd leave the theater happy.

Now, I'm out. I never thought I'd get so into this movie...
before even seeing it. o_o
goodnight.

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Jenive wrote:


Last thing, then I really must go.
Thanks for that. I had not read that.
Interesting. At this point, my only concern is
getting a good look at the monster.
All I desire to see is a full body shot
of whatever it is...if that can be accomplished during the
handy cam action then I'd leave the theater happy.

Now, I'm out. I never thought I'd get so into this movie...
before even seeing it. o_o
goodnight.


well, to ease your restless mind here is another scripture from the book of Matthew [Reeves]

"That's the way that our film is incredibly different from Blair Witch ... So you're going to see the monster, you're going to see huge-scale destruction, you're going to see a lot of crazy stuff!"
M.R. 1:18

amen

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