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[Update] 12/29/07 New response from Tag
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Roztox
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Red_Daze wrote:
going back to the I love bees puzzles, did anyone try and open the images in text pad and look for a message?


Oddly enough thats what i did shortly after seeing the image...
That sure is alot of text to plow thru. Shocked
Not sure bout finding a clue there, by the time it takes to study all that script, Cloverfield will be on DVD... Wink

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Red_Daze
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SPEC - bold futura and son-air

[SPEC] - so liking to tie things together, Tagruato suspected or knew MGP had to be out there and Ceo Ganu made sure the bold future satillite was launched with their brand new Son-air tech so they could find and get a full picture of Mgp searching all the oceans from space.

heh I love speculation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:00 pm
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Cloverfield Monster
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Location: The North Atlantic, after the destruction of the chuai station.

Damn paparazzi always taking my picture!!!! Screw you Tagruato!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:01 pm
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Itsumo
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[Spec] Implications for the story arc

Slusho Addict wrote:
I didn't think it would work well in colour, but it seems to come out ok:
http://i6.tinypic.com/7209kdi.gif


First of all, Slusho Addict, that's some great work with the images, my hat is off to you.

So what does this mean for the story?

My take is that on or about the 18th Tagruato detected something alarming enough for the whistleblower to risk sending it to the general public. These images are likely very secure within Tag, and a whistleblower is taking a huge risk by sending them out (logged by servers etc). So it must be very important.

So could this be MGP emerging from his lair? That gives him about a month to meander from Chuai to New York. Anyone have that distance? We could plot an average speed. So why is he coming to New York? I suspect it has to do with the Tagruato tanker in the harbor.

How does Deep Sea Nectar fit into this? I wonder if it might be one of two things: Something that MGP feeds on, or Something that MGP produces, like royal jelly or eggs (caviar). In either case MGP might follow something leaving with those things on board. Certainly if it comes from eggs that might explain wee beasties as well Smile

So, did they finally annoy the beast enough to wake it up, and it spends the better part of a month tailing the Tag tanker till it reaches NYC? Is this apperance of the beast on-the-move what Whistleblower is trying to warn the world of?

(Is Slusho! made of monster? Is this a REAL Monster Omlett? http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/cloverfieldphoto6.jpg)

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noimagirlrlly
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Whether this is the tanker or not, can we assume MGP is gonna attack NYC in the near future?

Someone mentioned before that he/she/the tanker could be going to NYC. Maybe this is the whistle blower's warning or whatever to us. Remember what we witness on 1-18-08 isnt occuring in real time. Maybe its about to happen.

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xboyonfirex
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I think it's real time... I mean, if it's 'about to happen' then so much for the 'game' right? I mean, what's the point in sending anything else? The way I see it is, if the game continues all the way up until the 17th, then it's "real time." I mean Itsumo has asked ALOT of questions that we're all still wondering, so it leaves plenty of room for those questions to be answered between now and then.


And also, look at the date this was taken- [12.18.07] So, this has been taken some time ago. In fact, it was taken the when the Whistleblower sent us the second memo.

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xboyonfirex
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[question]

could these be coordinates?
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Horned1
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Image clean-up...

I took a shot at cleaning up the radar image a bit more. I hope this helps.

http://i1.tinypic.com/8dyl5jr.jpg

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Horned1
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Re: [question]

xboyonfirex wrote:
could these be coordinates?


If they are coordinates, and if they're using standard longitude and latitude, then is would be in the Pacific ocean, about 400 miles off the coast of Mexico.

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NeoNK1
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Also if the sonar is underwater, than the coordinates could be in relation to the sonar itself.

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Headman
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Re: [question]

xboyonfirex wrote:
could these be coordinates?


I have a UTM GPS calulator, and if you are using the UTM (Universal Transverse Mercator Geographic Coordinate System) coordinates you need X, Y, and Z.

X=East
Y=North
Z=Elevation

With those you could triangulate the global position. I am not sure why elevation plays a key in the calculation. It would seem that you could find it strictly with the North and East numbers.

I googled UTM and came up with this:

http://geology.isu.edu/geostac/Field_Exercise/topomaps/utm.htm

This one has a way to calculate the NATO UTM:

http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/FieldMethods/UTMSystem.htm

and this

http://erg.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/factsheets/fs07701.html

Maybe we could brainstorm and see if we could figure this out if it actually is coordinates. I am sure there are some math geeks in here somewhere.

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Colt
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Red_Daze wrote:
going back to the I love bees puzzles, did anyone try and open the images in text pad and look for a message?


first thing i see when i do that is when and where it was made, but its not much help

"Adobe Photoshop CS3 Windows 2007:12:19 19:52:41"

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wallflower127
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photoshop

if it was made in photoshop, then there is a possibility that I can play with the layers and other things to see how they made it, etc. I'll get on that and post what I find. (I consider myself not totally spazzy with photoshop)

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Colt
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anyone know how to read XMP? theres a few websites in this "Metadata" of the pic, each leads to some form of info on XMP

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Row2k
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Just from my background in Oceanography/Ocean Engineering:

My guess on the boat symbol being to the left instead of centered is because this is probably a side-towed array rather than a rear-towed array (ie it's towed from the davit on the side of the ship rather than an A-frame at the back, this tends to be fairly common). I'm actually of the belief that this is an ROV and not a towed array, check out the seabotix.com link a little further down.

As far as the coordinates, those are probably in relation to the surface ship that is supporting it. They are used along with the gps coordinates of the surface ship to determine the exact position of ROV/Array. Without the surface ships coordinates they are pretty much useless.

This is from what's called a scanning sonar, which works a lot like radar does. For a little quicktime movie of how it works, check out this guy that I've used:
http://www.seabotix.com/news/movies/big-f-micron-640x480.htm

My interpretation of the image is that MGP is either growing or rising out of the depression (the depression being the dark blue, check out the scale in the lower left). Also notice that the red from MGP is actually off the scale in the lower left, so he's not only long but he's tall as well.

Just my $.02


Edit: And by lower left corner i actually meant lower right...

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