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[OT] - Deep Sea creatures at sea level die
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Red_Daze
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[OT] - Deep Sea creatures at sea level die
they dont do so well on a NYC tour

So basically the ability to survive at the depths that Tagruato drills at means a creature can survive 10x atmosphere pressures and lives its life entirely in the dark with photoluminescence to help.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0701_040701_oceantrap.html
http://www.mbari.org/news/homepage/2004/fishtrap.html

I'll give you suspension of reality for some of it cause the movie would suck if MGP showed and promptly dies due to an internally exploding air bladder. But thougts on MGP and deep sea creatures?

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cloverfreaky
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I've thought about this, too -- having the monster literally be a deep sea creature (as opposed to something that suddenly grew there, or landed there, etc.) definitely calls for a little suspension of disbelief if you've read anything about deep sea animals.

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I understand the whole deep sea animal thing, I don't know... maybe when they made this film they were not thinking that people would actually think about this lol

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Re: [OT] - Deep Sea creatures at sea level die
they dont do so well on a NYC tour

Red_Daze wrote:
So basically the ability to survive at the depths that Tagruato drills at means a creature can survive 10x atmosphere pressures and lives its life entirely in the dark with photoluminescence to help.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0701_040701_oceantrap.html
http://www.mbari.org/news/homepage/2004/fishtrap.html

I'll give you suspension of reality for some of it cause the movie would suck if MGP showed and promptly dies due to an internally exploding air bladder. But thougts on MGP and deep sea creatures?



Not true for all deep sea creatures, as the extremophile fans will tell you, some can survive anything between high deep sea pressures and the vacuum of space.

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Extremophiles ftw.
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Slushooooo
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The monsters roar still sounds like a whale or whale-like to me.. I know that this theory was posted before. click the little silver circle that says groaning.

http://www.whalesounds.com/home/index.html

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Even the small monsters 'if that what it is' sounds whale-like, the scene when Marlena rob and lily are running from something after Marlena says " did you hear that"

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How "deep" can a 600' tall creature be anyway?

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I know I'm probably going to be embarrassed in a second and the answer is most likely obvious, but are we sure that the monster is in fact a deep sea creature and not just something that was 'created'?
It's hard to sift through all the speculation around here.
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dairyking08 wrote:
I know I'm probably going to be embarrassed in a second and the answer is most likely obvious, but are we sure that the monster is in fact a deep sea creature and not just something that was 'created'?
It's hard to sift through all the speculation around here.


all we know for sure about the monster is that it is attacking new york city. It is most plausible that it came from the water seeing if it were on land it would be hard not to have seen it wondering around.
just because the poster has a trail of water coming from the statue of liberty doesnt mean that thats were it started out. Everything so far has been an assumption (and you know what happens when you assume something). But theres nothing wrong with that.
Oh yeah, we also know it has a leg, and can walk. (if that was the actual monster.)

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dairyking08 wrote:
I know I'm probably going to be embarrassed in a second and the answer is most likely obvious, but are we sure that the monster is in fact a deep sea creature and not just something that was 'created'?
It's hard to sift through all the speculation around here.


No need to be embarrassed; at this point, nobody knows for sure what the monster is, where it came from, etc. It's all spec. Smile

To move along with what Nighthawk said, I think that's a strong point for the monster not simply being something that lives deep below sea level. The water around NYC may be deep, but is it skyscraper deep? If we're to assume that the city is surprised by the monster's debut, it makes you wonder just how it got there without being noticed.

...which would lend credence to theories that it simply crash landed from space or suddenly grew from a not-so-immense size. I don't personally subscribe to those theories, but it's something to think about.

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Nighthawk wrote:
How "deep" can a 600' tall creature be anyway?

If you are talking about how something that tall can be hidden down in the deep ocean, 600' is under 1/8 mile, and the ocean floor around Chuai is about 2 miles deep or more. MGP standing would be quite the tower down there, but would have 15/16 or more of the distance to get to the surface.
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blee02 wrote:
dairyking08 wrote:
I know I'm probably going to be embarrassed in a second and the answer is most likely obvious, but are we sure that the monster is in fact a deep sea creature and not just something that was 'created'?
It's hard to sift through all the speculation around here.


all we know for sure about the monster is that it is attacking new york city. It is most plausible that it came from the water seeing if it were on land it would be hard not to have seen it wondering around.
just because the poster has a trail of water coming from the statue of liberty doesnt mean that thats were it started out. Everything so far has been an assumption (and you know what happens when you assume something). But theres nothing wrong with that.
Oh yeah, we also know it has a leg, and can walk. (if that was the actual monster.)



Thanks for taking the time to explain, you too Cloverfreaky. I know most of that. I'm just glad I didn't miss anything with skipping all but the first three pages of the sonar thread.
I was worried that I had missed something and was behind on something. But thanks for clearing things up for me. Very Happy
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You're also assuming it "lives" down there. What if it's in a hibernating state and has been sleeping for thousands or more years and rises to the top of the ocean every now and then to feed? We don't know its life cycle. It could also be insect-like and have a massive exoskeleton to withstand the pressures of burrowing that far below.

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it could be a whale that was just feeding on seabed nectar and grew extremely large

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