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[UPDATE] Tagruato Headlines Update
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Kozmo
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Is it just me, or is this the first time Tag has acknowledged the possiblity of TidoWAVE being an IG site by talking about eco-terrorists? Not that I thought it wasn't, but before this I don't remember any links between TidoWAVE and the rest of the ARE. Used to be lots of speculation on if they were legit or not. Anybody fill me in?

kuh-RAZY speculation time:

What if... the oil frieghter that crashed in New York is Chuai? Hear me out, it would answer the question of no debris... they're sailing away with MGP! After the object fell from space, the ship was dispatched to pick it up, was carrying him, he started to wake up so they ditched him in the ocean and high-tailed it for land... but it followed them!

Okay, I'll go take my pills now Shocked

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Re: Transcript of outgoing message Regarding Chuai Station
Altercation Phone Message Call

rhesusmonkeyboy wrote:
Tagruato wrote:
Thank you for calling Tagruato.

If you are calling regarding Chuai Station, please know that the situation is being handled and should be resolved shortly.

If you have a relative on-board, you will be contacted soon by the appropriate personnel. Headquarters does not have information on individual crew members.

All other questions should be directed toward our press office, **as this line** is currently not accepting messages


I can't tell if **as this line** is **at this time** it's unclear for me.


As this line. I'm sure of it.

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I think we have too much evidence that Chuai Station did in fact exist. Consider:

1) The Whistle Blower's first memo said "Chuai Station holds a dark secret", and the Japanese on the memo on which it was written referenced Chuai. How does a non-existent station hold anything, much less a dark secret?

2) The second Whistle Blower communique indicated that there was no oil at Chuai, and that "they must have known before they built". Sure sounds like something was built to me.

3) Teddy states in his tape that they are "on their station". True, he could have been talking about one of the other 13, but come on! How likely is that?

The puzzlement over the line mentioning no debris in the Tidowave might be misdirected. They may merely have been trying to emphasize that the thing was totally gone, not just damaged. When someone's house is destroyed by a tornado, they might say "My house is gone", but in reality there is some debris and at least a foundation or its remnants. In this case, I think they're just trying to be clear that the whole thing is gone, not just wrecked.

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Does anyone remember the Blob remake. It was an experiment done on a satellite in space and it fell back to earth. What if this is one of TIGs experiments comming home to roost. Remember, Teddy said they found something or made something....hmmmm. It might be a terristerial creature that has been mutated under conditions in space....just my thoughts...
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DougBThree
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I think this also adds fuel to the speculation that Jamie is going to get a visit soon. The notice about the altercation at Chuai says
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We have top investigators on our side

I'm sure these "investigators" will want to talk to someone who called checking up on one of the "eco-terrorists".

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Hmm, interesting, so many updates coming at once!

Surprised there's no mention of Son-Air in the satellite description, but no matter.
The Chuai update seems a bit late, if tidowave has come back via boat, although it's the right time of year for delayed updates.

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Nighthawk wrote:
None of this makes any sense... yet.

The fact that TIDOWave went to the Chuai site and found nothing indicates only two possibilities:

1) Chuai is underwater and intact.
2) Chuai never existed in the first place.

The monster destroying Chuai isn't plausible because, unless he swallowed the station whole, there has to be *some* debris. Heck, even a floating coffee cup counts as debris; you can't tell me the station doesn't have *anything* that floats.

But, given these two possibilities, the sonar picture can't be of the station because it doesn't make any sense to take a sonar photo of the station from a Tagruato point of view. Why would the WB send us a sonar picture of the station? And a blurry sonar picture doesn't mean it was destroyed; you cannot expect an intact platform to appear pristine on a sonar scope anyway (heck, even submarines appear surrounded by noise on sonar).

Therefore, based on that, I have to go with #2 above. Chuai is a cover story for something bigger, and doesn't exist as a platform in the first place. That's why it didn't appear on the quarterly report; you can't be drilling for oil from a platform that doesn't exist. It also serves as a means to hide funds; you can mount millions upon millions of funds in to the creation of the station (materials, assembly, payroll, etc...) in order to fund whatever you wanted.

Tagruato sending up the satellite implies that they saw this coming; what other reason would there be to launch a satellite in the first place?

I think the sonar picture is of whatever came from outer space, and Tagruato knew about it well before this press release. Chuai only existed on paper so that they can use the money to fund this new venture: search and recovery of extraterrestrial items.

And now Tagruato has a problem: somebody went out there, saw Chuai didn't exist, and came back to report it. What's the best solution to that? Blame Chuai's disappearance on that same group and label them "eco-terrorists".

I also think that MGP probably landed with whatever that was, and simply isn't awake yet.

I really like this theory, except there would have to be SOMEONE keeping tabs on this company building a rig out in the atlantic. I mean, this rig is getting built in the waters of a country, they would be very interested to seeing it be complete. I doubt the first people to notice it being nonexistent would be a small greenpeace-like group.

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Darkurth2000 wrote:
Does anyone remember the Blob remake. It was an experiment done on a satellite in space and it fell back to earth. What if this is one of TIGs experiments comming home to roost. Remember, Teddy said they found something or made something....hmmmm. It might be a terristerial creature that has been mutated under conditions in space....just my thoughts...


There's much ephasis on that name, "ChimpanzIII"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_the_Chimp

I'm not saying that it's a mutated Chimp, but it could have been any sort of animal/organism that was sent into space for research... Isn't Seabed's Nectar just a form of bacteria? Tagruato has been doing a lot of work with animals and Slusho! Perhaps they wanted to see how an organism's body reacts to Slusho! when in outerspace? Just a thought.

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"If you HAD a relative on board"?

Sounds like it to me anyway. Native Japanese speakers tend not to be good with V's but it still sounds like had rather than have.

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So, the over 300 employees are where then? If not on Chuai, or if not dead?
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For ARG purposes the altercation news is more important I think.

It seems to me it's a an attempt to get leads on who would be contacting people on Chuai. TAG can thank drunk ass Jamie for the idea. It is also an attempt to put eco-terrorism in the air as a cause for the destruction of Chuai, and yes it "existed" and not underwater. Considering that TAG trumpets all their achievements I would think having the first functioning deep sea living environment would warrant some horn blowing. TAG will have to account for Chuai's destruction somehow since TIDO has already announced nothing is there any longer and no there would be no debris in the immediate area fairly soon after. Why do you think they need helicopters to do wide area sweeps in seas disasters?

The news of something falling into the ocean is more important to the film.

It's beginning to look like something alien or artificially engineered fell into the sea and after feeding on large amounts of Seabed Nector mutated.

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rocksmars wrote:
For ARG purposes the altercation news is more important I think.

It seems to me it's a an attempt to get leads on who would be contacting people on Chuai. TAG can thank drunk ass Jamie for the idea. It is also an attempt to put eco-terrorism in the air as a cause for the destruction of Chuai, and yes it "existed" and not underwater. Considering that TAG trumpets all their achievements I would think having the first functioning deep sea living environment would warrant some horn blowing. TAG will have to account for Chuai's destruction somehow since TIDO has already announced nothing is there any longer and no there would be no debris in the immediate area fairly soon after. Why do you think they need helicopters to do wide area sweeps in seas disasters?

The news of something falling into the ocean is more important to the film.

It's beginning to look like something alien or artificially engineered fell into the sea and after feeding on large amounts of Seabed Nector mutated.


[i'm trolling, I know]

There's much ephasis on that name, "ChimpanzIII"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_the_Chimp

I'm not saying that it's a mutated Chimp, but it could have been any sort of animal/organism that was sent into space for research... Isn't Seabed's Nectar just a form of bacteria? Tagruato has been doing a lot of work with animals and Slusho! Perhaps they wanted to see how an organism's body reacts to Slusho! when in outerspace? Just a thought.

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rocksmars wrote:

It's beginning to look like something alien or artificially engineered fell into the sea and after feeding on large amounts of Seabed Nector mutated.


'They've found something' or 'Created Something'

I don't think it is an alien if sea bed nectar is involved, because it doesn't seem to be relevant for it to eat the sea bed nectar if it's something completely alien anyway. Of course, the seabed nectar could be alien too, so then it might make sense.

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In their latest gesture to reach out to fellow man, Tagruato used the Hatsui satellite to try to identify a rogue piece that is thought to have fallen off of the Japanese Government's "ChimpanzIII" satellite. Although Hatsui's work has not yet been able to confirm the identity of the fallen piece, Tagruato scientists and engineers are busily trying to track and recover the fragment. According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week.


There's no emphasis on the name at all, just a lame attempt to come up with a name the Japanese might use. Even if real it's a satellite, not a ship or station. It's name would have no significance to TAG either as the Japanese government would have named it. Trying to tie whatever fell to this satellite is an obvious attempt to deflect and minimize suggestions it is from TAG or extraterrestrial.

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Eco-terror cell? Lawlerz, I sent them an email 2 days ago posing as an anonymous representative for an environmentalist group that wanted information or claimed it would take matters into it's own hands by conducting an independent investigation of Chuai. Laughing
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