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[UPDATE] Tagruato Headlines Update
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rocksmars
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 		Could someone please explain to me this fascination with TAG funneling or hiding money? It's a corporation not a drug cartel. Whatever Cloverfield is about I doubt it's tax evasion. Oil companies in Japan are heavily subsidized anyway, there is no need for a Japanese energy company to hide money.

If Chuai is not just another of their drilling stations and is supposed to be secret or underwater than why show it on the corporate web site? Seems a little stupid to me.

Since it almost certainly does or did exist in ARG anyway then what evidence is there that it was ever underwater or sub like?
Every person referring to it, part of TAG or not, uses the word ON, as in on top of. If sub or underwater they would say IN.

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 		what about "onboard" or "on the space shuttle"?

Red October movie: "Find out whos on that ship" (talking about submarines)

TIDOWave "went" there and it wasnt there... so we assume a cover up.

probably using money meant for a drilling station for other programs (like MGP) that are illegal and need a coverup...
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From the other thread (here), and from another update that was made the other day.

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 		The cover up about Chuai being for something other than oil is implied by the activists, but it sounds like the station is/was there.

A mobile platform, which do exist, would be much more plausible than this being a secret underwater lair.

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 		Space is a different category. Everything that moves a human in space is a "ship" so the use of on. The same when referring to the sub as a "ship".
We have had multiple referrals to being on Chuai , if sub-like someone would have used IN at some point I would think.

As far as Chuai being secret or a cover why? Tag has Bold Futura who does extensive classified work and underwater and space research. Instead they construct an elaborate subterfuge and then put it's supposed location right on their web site?

Chuai station isn't the story here, it's just the setting.

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The cover up about Chuai being for something other than oil is implied by the activists, but it sounds like the station is/was there.

A mobile platform, which do exist, would be much more plausible than this being a secret underwater lair.


I was refering to the type of facility that they show in Deep Blue Sea, or The Abyss. But with phony drilling station on top, actual research (or whatever) on ocean floor.

Like what Hughes did to raise the sub with an enigma machine inside.



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The Glomar Explorer was built by Huges to raise a Russian sub. Why is an interesting story. Their cover story was that it was built to mine the ocean floor for mineral nodules. The cover story lives even to this day. The Glomar Explorer is is Suisun Bay on the East side of the highway 680 Martinez bridge. The Hughes Mining Barge (HMB-1) is in Peat's harbor in Redwood City and if you know what you are looking for can see it from the Bayshore (101) freeway.


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rocksmars wrote:
We have had multiple referrals to being on Chuai , if sub-like someone would have used IN at some point I would think.


you can use the term "on" for any sort of base or platform, whether above ground or under water. you're argueing grammar?

rocksmars wrote:
As far as Chuai being secret or a cover why? Tag has Bold Futura who does extensive classified work and underwater and space research. Instead they construct an elaborate subterfuge and then put it's supposed location right on their web site?


creating a MPG is not normal business. Smile

This goes beyond space research. It's Tagruato's ambition as a whole. If they're creating/investigating a giant sea creature, im sure they are taking a lot of precaution. The cover-up would simply relieve suspicion of where the money is going. It goes beyond just wanting to cover it up, though. It'd be on a massive scale. I'm sure millions went into a facility, so constructing a new drilling station could easily explain why. If millions of dollars of equipment is being shipped to the middle of the ocean, at least if there is a known 'drilling station' there, people wont ask questions.
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 		I think Chuai was just floating happily on the ocean, then MGP ate it.

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I think Chuai was just floating happily on the ocean, then MGP ate it.


That's what I think. If they had an underwater station they would have surely made a big deal out of it. Considering the station is listed on their interactive map at the Tag website, they would not have been able to hide the fact it was underwater for very long at all.

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There is no evidence, anywhere, of anyone ever being PHYSICALLY on Chuai.

The only communications we have regarding it, from the WB:

- The original torn memos from Tagruato make reference to Chuai, but that could be part of the cover-up as well to make other employees in the organization continue to believe Chuai exists. If Tag is using it to funnel money, it especially has to keep it secret.

- "Chuai holds a dark secret". Like, let's say... not existing in the first place?

- "People have gone missing" could mean anything. There is no evidence that these people ever even made it to Chuai. The Tag website mentiones 340+ employees at the facility, but nobody knows any of them? I think that number is something just to pad payroll and up the apparent expense.

- The 3rd quarter drilling results don't list Chuai at all. One thing is to list it with zeroes; another thing is to not acknowledge its existance. WB's comment of "there's no oil there" is because he assumes it's there, but not drilling.

I think the WB is landside, not on a platform, and is making the assumption that something is up with Chuai, but he assumes that Chuai is there, but not doing what it's supposed to. He senses something fishy, but isn't sure what.

If Chuai was there and destroyed, why would Tagruato hide it from the beginning?

Also, do note one thing: by all accounts, Chuai must be a HUGE platform. Also, it must be a major engineering accomplishment. Why no photos? I'd be proud to show off the progress on the assembly of the facility, especially to potential investors.


I think this theory tries to have it both ways with the Whistle Blower. On the one hand it argues that the dark secret the W.B. refers to is the non-existence of Chuai Station, and then it argues that the W.B. "assumes that Chuai is there". Um, which is it?

Why no photos? Well, there are no photos of the other 13 platforms, either.

Teddy Hanssen said he was "on their station". Granted, he doesn't say it was Chuai station specifically, but why would the TidoWave gang head out to that station if it wasn't where their comrades were? For that matter, TidoWave doesn't specifically mention Chuai Station, either, but that's the only one from which we've got reports of an altercation.

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 		I agree with Every's Magic
We have a Floater!!!

Still poses the question of Intent...Did Tag make Grumpypantalones? Did EcoterrorTito inadvertantly release? Will Tag Blame Tito as a scapegoat to the Demise of the Western world, while Tag conspired the whole time to release it as planned by blaming Titowave? (similar to Neocons scapegoating Afghanistan, Al-Queda too goto War with Afghan, Iraq....and not seeking justice in Saudi Arabia...considering 11 of the 13 bombers were from SA?)....please DO NOT go into a 9-11 discussion.

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 		Re: I agree with Every's Magic
Johnnyutah16 wrote:
We have a Floater!!!

Still poses the question of Intent...Did Tag make Grumpypantalones? Did EcoterrorTito inadvertantly release? Will Tag Blame Tito as a scapegoat to the Demise of the Western world, while Tag conspired the whole time to release it as planned by blaming Titowave? (similar to Neocons scapegoating Afghanistan, Al-Queda too goto War with Afghan, Iraq....and not seeking justice in Saudi Arabia...considering 11 of the 13 bombers were from SA?)....please DO NOT go into a 9-11 discussion.


I always knew Yugoslavia was involved. (I think you were looking for Tido -- not Tito). Wink

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 		I like Tito better
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Her wrote:

I was refering to the type of facility that they show in Deep Blue Sea, or The Abyss. But with phony drilling station on top, actual research (or whatever) on ocean floor.


Yep, but the 'No Oil Here' thing means that either drilling has been stopped from damage, stopped because there's something more important to be doing, or never started in the first place.
Either that or they're drilling purely for the DSI.

edit: I forgot it's a new station, so it hasn't got any oil so far.

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 		I really think that the Satellite is misdirection. If something from space fell, they can claim that MGP is another form of life. What they don't want, on the other hand, is responsibility for a huge disaster like say "decimating NYC".

If that Satellite caught it, there would be news about it from TIDO and from the press. They would not be the only ones investigating; certainly countries near the incident would take a look.

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