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[UPDATE] Tagruato Headlines Update
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Atyxs
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 		What about the small creatures that come off?
If this 'thing' is somehow MGP from space, where did the 'suckers' come from that are living off of it? From space too? Then we're talking about multiple entry points from space, not one isolated incidence.

Not sure.

Perhaps, as mentioned earlier, the need to launch the satellite in space with such ferocity was not to intercept or see what was coming...but to put it out into the depths of space to study. Much like many space flight missions. What fell to earth was a mutation from space, and going further, maybe a mutation created from something else entirely from space. They found bateria living on one of the old space flights many years ago, Although, they were never able to conclude whether it came from space or it just managed to live through flight and return.

Random thoughts.

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 		AHA! I have mentioned this before!
Ok! both myself & red walrus have been touting the tardigrade water bear theory since way back, and I have linked this http://tardigradesinspace.blogspot.com/ in the extemophiles thread, but just to bring it up again have a look and see if you cant see at least 4 or 5 reasons that this is more relevant than ever!

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 		Re: AHA! I have mentioned this before!
john locke wrote:
Ok! both myself & red walrus have been touting the tardigrade water bear theory since way back, and I have linked this http://tardigradesinspace.blogspot.com/ in the extemophiles thread, but just to bring it up again have a look and see if you cant see at least 4 or 5 reasons that this is more relevant than ever!



Dude!
Its Shatner,Bill Shatner not a bear or a whale or a ahhh ahh Giant dwarven pygmy smelly pirate hooker either.(Think covered everything!)
Just kiddin...its a waterbear! Very Happy

Hey John! Very Happy

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 		Laughing Hi Dalphx, Bill Shatner!! thats priceless! but now you mention it isnt JJ doing star trek next? ( Shocked )

Good to see you again buddy Very Happy

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john locke wrote:
Laughing Hi Dalphx, Bill Shatner!! thats priceless! but now you mention it isnt JJ doing star trek next? ( Shocked )

Good to see you again buddy Very Happy


thats the idea..JJ Screws Shatner on part in film, Bill goes out to bar gets plastered and destroys town...thats his belly ya hear growlin!

Back on Topic...Think tagruato's satelite has something to do with problems with the government one.

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I really think that the Satellite is misdirection.


I agree, the article gives us the location of their geostationary satellite, which may be involved with monitoring the thing that they've 'found' or 'created', maybe nothing more.

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 		New theory
TIDOwave has been infiltrated
At least I think it is new, could not find anything similar. Sorry in advance for the long post. I see a lot of talk about whether or not Chuai existed or is underwater based on the fact that TIDOWAVE reported that there was nothing there. But what if TIDOWAVE has been compromised?

Look at the posts as well as the Teddy package:

Oct4 - Jamie receives a package from Teddy that already contains a message about the Chuai station. He tells her to open it on December 9th in the hopes that if he is captured, she will warn Randy who will contact her.

Dec 9 - Jamie opens the package and dismisses it. Randy never calls her.

Dec10 - Call to Action The "event" discussed in the last meeting had a problem and they are scheduling a REPEAT event for the 14th. Flower donations being accepted. Also, TIDOWAVE posts stop updating comments.

Dec 18 - Unknown TIDOWAVE member reports that things are not going as planned and says that THEY told me to post here and than later says "I'm the ONLY ONE here.

Jan 1 - "TIDOWAVE" reports that there was "simply nothing there".

So my theory goes like this:
Teddy, who works with TIDOWAVE, is part of a team that infiltrates Chuai to dig up Intel. He collects that a sample, swipes a Slusho hat, and makes the tape. He disguises the package puts it into the general mail drop. He attempts to send a message to Randy let him know that Jamie has the sample. He and the rest of the team ultimately are captured/killed and the message to Randy is lost/intercepted.

Randy may have received some sort of Intel that some of the team was killed. This is rumor-milled out to the community. Yet he is awaiting word back from his last spy, Teddy. The deadline for Teddy to report in passes (probably December 9th). He does not know to go to Jamie for the sample. Randy sends the "Call to Action" to stage a repeat event and realizing that mourning members may see him as heartless he immediately sends the "Flower Donations" post to gain face in the community. He updates the most recent comment submissions.

A second much larger group stages an event to infiltrate Chuai and is either killed/captured. Randy is with them.
One of two things occurs:
1) An unknown member that did not participate in the event makes a desperate plea for help. All important members of TIDOWAVE did participate and now this person fears capture/death.
Maybe more likely is
2) TAG learns the location of TIDOWAVE headquarters and captures our unknown member. They coerce him to send out a message to all sleeper cells to in order to capture as many TIDOWAVE members as possible.("They told me to post here.") He slips in the message as a warning. (I'm the only one here right now.)

TAG begins collecting TIDOWAVE members. Rumors of the two Chuai teams as well as sleeper cells being captured start to circulate. So in an effort to squash these rumors, TAG, who now knows how to post on the TIDOWAVE website, posts a message as Randy stating that not only he is alive but that Chuai does not even exist! They do not update any comments from posts to further reduce the communication between members. Meanwhile, Chuai is still in the middle of the Atlantic, now with potential captors, harvesting Seabed's Nectar.

Granted, this might be far-fetched. But I was trying to think like the creator of Alias. That show was all about warring secret spy groups and became even more far-fetched than this theory (Rambaldi cube immortality, age-old prophecies about a struggle between a world destroyer and a savior who happen to be half sisters, etc.)

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LaNcEleCtriKuTion
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There is no evidence, anywhere, of anyone ever being PHYSICALLY on Chuai.

The only communications we have regarding it, from the WB:

- The original torn memos from Tagruato make reference to Chuai, but that could be part of the cover-up as well to make other employees in the organization continue to believe Chuai exists. If Tag is using it to funnel money, it especially has to keep it secret.

- "Chuai holds a dark secret". Like, let's say... not existing in the first place?

- "People have gone missing" could mean anything. There is no evidence that these people ever even made it to Chuai. The Tag website mentiones 340+ employees at the facility, but nobody knows any of them? I think that number is something just to pad payroll and up the apparent expense.

- The 3rd quarter drilling results don't list Chuai at all. One thing is to list it with zeroes; another thing is to not acknowledge its existance. WB's comment of "there's no oil there" is because he assumes it's there, but not drilling.

I think the WB is landside, not on a platform, and is making the assumption that something is up with Chuai, but he assumes that Chuai is there, but not doing what it's supposed to. He senses something fishy, but isn't sure what.

If Chuai was there and destroyed, why would Tagruato hide it from the beginning?

Also, do note one thing: by all accounts, Chuai must be a HUGE platform. Also, it must be a major engineering accomplishment. Why no photos? I'd be proud to show off the progress on the assembly of the facility, especially to potential investors.


WB is most likely not on Chuai. WB might be in Japan, at the HQ, like those office spies. WB would've written: Chuai doesn't exist!!! or No Oil because there is no Chuai!!! if Chuai didn't exist. Therefore, being stationed at HQ is the most real thing I can think of.

People are doubting the 'undersea lair' theory. I made that theory, but it's not a 'lair' or underwater all the time. In my head this is what I see:

Tag posts Chuai on their site BECAUSE they want everyone to think that there's an oil site and an excuse for money.
If anyone wanted to look at it, GoogleEarth won't be accurate because the 'nowhere lands' like oceans aren't updated. (Hell, I live in NYC, and my house (since 1986) doesn't even show up!) If any other companies wanted to look at it via sattelite, Chuai would be up there (floating) and the top looks just like an oil rig. Since there would be a hell of other larger oil companies, their new oil rig might not mean much and it's regarded as nothing new.

This is where my theory comes into play. I never meant it to go mobile, like zipping all over the world. I meant that it could go up and down, maybe controlled and pulled by some string (A width of 13 ft of aluminum is what some major sea-pulling ropes use) and bars in place to hold it steadily

Here's a view (made by me on MS paint)
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 		Re: What about the small creatures that come off?
Atyxs wrote:
If this 'thing' is somehow MGP from space, where did the 'suckers' come from that are living off of it? From space too? Then we're talking about multiple entry points from space, not one isolated incidence.

Not sure.

Perhaps, as mentioned earlier, the need to launch the satellite in space with such ferocity was not to intercept or see what was coming...but to put it out into the depths of space to study. Much like many space flight missions. What fell to earth was a mutation from space, and going further, maybe a mutation created from something else entirely from space. They found bateria living on one of the old space flights many years ago, Although, they were never able to conclude whether it came from space or it just managed to live through flight and return.

Random thoughts.


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 		I'm working on one now that features Chuai in better detail.

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 		Drilling ships can go all over the world though

http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/chikyu/

It might be strange for Teddy to call it a 'station', but other than that it's easier to sail away than submerge something like that.

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Drilling ships can go all over the world though

http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/chikyu/

It might be strange for Teddy to call it a 'station', but other than that it's easier to sail away than submerge something like that.


What I mean is that the base at the bottom could hold something (Storage, Drill, etc) and the Lab to examine it is on Chuai.

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 		But why would they build a fake oil platform, to show up on satellite, but hide it when people come near? It sounds silly to me.

I've got no problem with the theory that Chuai is a front for something like investigating Mr Grumpypants, or whatever.

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 		Answer: Because if people see money missing, it's suspicious. If people get a reason for the missing money (new oil drill), then thay want to know where it is. (all the other drills have been up on the site there since 2000-ish, so putting Chuai up there makes sense. People might want to see Chuai. A pull-rope might work to cover this up AND it also serves as a Lab and a docking place for boats + sleeping quarters and stuff like that which can't survive under high pressure for long. Subs can also be in there: Making more bases on the sear floor is troublesome and way more expensive, so all this MIGHT be true.

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 		The station is definely gone, just look on google earth. Smile
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php?Number=1079583

I never added that BTW.

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