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[UPDATE] Tagruato Headlines Update
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Euchre
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 		You do realize that the location of Chuai station means your tower would have to be over a mile tall, more like 2 miles. That's over 10,000 feet.
If the station isn't on the ocean surface, and it's on the seafloor, there would basically be cables between the two.
See here for details about the different types of rigs:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=448849#448849
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:03 am
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Red Walrus wrote:
The station is definely gone, just look on google earth. Smile
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php?Number=1079583

I never added that BTW.


Haha, I think they got the wrong ridge

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There is no evidence, anywhere, of anyone ever being PHYSICALLY on Chuai.

The only communications we have regarding it, from the WB:

- The original torn memos from Tagruato make reference to Chuai, but that could be part of the cover-up as well to make other employees in the organization continue to believe Chuai exists. If Tag is using it to funnel money, it especially has to keep it secret.

- "Chuai holds a dark secret". Like, let's say... not existing in the first place?

- "People have gone missing" could mean anything. There is no evidence that these people ever even made it to Chuai. The Tag website mentiones 340+ employees at the facility, but nobody knows any of them? I think that number is something just to pad payroll and up the apparent expense.

- The 3rd quarter drilling results don't list Chuai at all. One thing is to list it with zeroes; another thing is to not acknowledge its existance. WB's comment of "there's no oil there" is because he assumes it's there, but not drilling.

I think the WB is landside, not on a platform, and is making the assumption that something is up with Chuai, but he assumes that Chuai is there, but not doing what it's supposed to. He senses something fishy, but isn't sure what.

If Chuai was there and destroyed, why would Tagruato hide it from the beginning?

Also, do note one thing: by all accounts, Chuai must be a HUGE platform. Also, it must be a major engineering accomplishment. Why no photos? I'd be proud to show off the progress on the assembly of the facility, especially to potential investors.


WB is most likely not on Chuai. WB might be in Japan, at the HQ, like those office spies. WB would've written: Chuai doesn't exist!!! or No Oil because there is no Chuai!!! if Chuai didn't exist. Therefore, being stationed at HQ is the most real thing I can think of.

People are doubting the 'undersea lair' theory. I made that theory, but it's not a 'lair' or underwater all the time. In my head this is what I see:

Tag posts Chuai on their site BECAUSE they want everyone to think that there's an oil site and an excuse for money.
If anyone wanted to look at it, GoogleEarth won't be accurate because the 'nowhere lands' like oceans aren't updated. (Hell, I live in NYC, and my house (since 1986) doesn't even show up!) If any other companies wanted to look at it via sattelite, Chuai would be up there (floating) and the top looks just like an oil rig. Since there would be a hell of other larger oil companies, their new oil rig might not mean much and it's regarded as nothing new.

This is where my theory comes into play. I never meant it to go mobile, like zipping all over the world. I meant that it could go up and down, maybe controlled and pulled by some string (A width of 13 ft of aluminum is what some major sea-pulling ropes use) and bars in place to hold it steadily


THIS is what I meant, too - dude, you really should knock before entering my head. It's only polite. Wink
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Euchre wrote:
You do realize that the location of Chuai station means your tower would have to be over a mile tall, more like 2 miles. That's over 10,000 feet.
If the station isn't on the ocean surface, and it's on the seafloor, there would basically be cables between the two.
See here for details about the different types of rigs:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=448849#448849


I'd also assume any sea-floor base would be hazardously close to volcanic vents... it is the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. Now i'm relying on what Tagruato says, and that's probably a bad idea, but I don't think they're lying location-wise at least.
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 		Actually we came to the conclusion a while ago that Chuai is not on the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, but fairly well west of there. I just revisited that thread and it's images and compared it to Google Earth that I installed on my new Mac mini. What I found is pretty bizarre really.
Now to figure out how I'm going to share the KMZ file. I don't like the fact my Google ID doesn't just automatically work on the Google Earth forums. (Or if it does, it's not apparent and doesn't automatically share login like other services do.)
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 		Ah... so basically, it's positioned in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean on no geologically significant area?

It makes absolutely no sense unless it's

1. An obvious reference to MGP.
2. A mistake made by whoever created the Tagruato maps.

I'm leaning toward 2 simply because there aren't enough clues.
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 		I guess I may have to bite the bullet and make a Google Earth Community account - because the location is interesting. Wait until you see what I mean.
I'll post the link when I get things set up.
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 		called the company

i phoned the number listed on the slusho distrubution page got a whole bunch of nonsense in japanese.then an english message folllowed talkin somthing bout the Chaui Station accident(its listed on the tagruato page)..then i waited it went through some more japenese jiberish..then said if u are looking for a extension press it now..i pressed 310..it then took me to another message asking a password..i didnt press anything and it hung up..we need to find sum sort of password

and the chaui station accident i belive is the cloverfield monster..
i belive its just gonna keep givin us nothing rgiht until the tagruato website says weve been attacked or sumthing..cause the tagruato ship in newyork gets cap sozed..and blows up..i think this is the beggin..the say terrorism did it but i think its the monster maybe banged into them

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sdoublet wrote:
called the company

i phoned the number listed on the slusho distrubution page got a whole bunch of nonsense in japanese.then an english message folllowed talkin somthing bout the Chaui Station accident(its listed on the tagruato page)..then i waited it went through some more japenese jiberish..then said if u are looking for a extension press it now..i pressed 310..it then took me to another message asking a password..i didnt press anything and it hung up..we need to find sum sort of password

and the chaui station accident i belive is the cloverfield monster..
i belive its just gonna keep givin us nothing rgiht until the tagruato website says weve been attacked or sumthing..cause the tagruato ship in newyork gets cap sozed..and blows up..i think this is the beggin..the say terrorism did it but i think its the monster maybe banged into them


Dude you have created two identical trout threads and now a trout post with the exact same message. The number has already been thoroughly been discussed, in this thread about 4 pages forward.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23094&start=30

Please, please, please use search before lambasting the whole forum.

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h311b3nt wrote:
sdoublet wrote:
called the company

i phoned the number listed on the slusho distrubution page got a whole bunch of nonsense in japanese.then an english message folllowed talkin somthing bout the Chaui Station accident(its listed on the tagruato page)..then i waited it went through some more japenese jiberish..then said if u are looking for a extension press it now..i pressed 310..it then took me to another message asking a password..i didnt press anything and it hung up..we need to find sum sort of password

and the chaui station accident i belive is the cloverfield monster..
i belive its just gonna keep givin us nothing rgiht until the tagruato website says weve been attacked or sumthing..cause the tagruato ship in newyork gets cap sozed..and blows up..i think this is the beggin..the say terrorism did it but i think its the monster maybe banged into them


Dude you have created two identical trout threads and now a trout post with the exact same message. The number has already been thoroughly been discussed, in this thread about 4 pages forward.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23094&start=30

Please, please, please use search before lambasting the whole forum.


Also, he reminds me of someone who started posting these days by the way he writes...
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Sasori wrote:
I really think that the Satellite is misdirection. If something from space fell, they can claim that MGP is another form of life. What they don't want, on the other hand, is responsibility for a huge disaster like say "decimating NYC".

If that Satellite caught it, there would be news about it from TIDO and from the press. They would not be the only ones investigating; certainly countries near the incident would take a look.



Bingo. WE like the theory that the satellite shenanigans are a very elaborate red herring to create an excuse and distraction. It's very possible that it is all a preemptive coverup for what TAG fears they have unleashed. Absolution through misdirection.

Mr. GP - experiment gone AWOL or E.T.?

At the end of the day, JJ (and TAG) will let conspiracy theorists draw their own conclusions.
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Nighthawk wrote:
There is no evidence, anywhere, of anyone ever being PHYSICALLY on Chuai.

The only communications we have regarding it, from the WB:

- The original torn memos from Tagruato make reference to Chuai, but that could be part of the cover-up as well to make other employees in the organization continue to believe Chuai exists. If Tag is using it to funnel money, it especially has to keep it secret.

- "Chuai holds a dark secret". Like, let's say... not existing in the first place?

- "People have gone missing" could mean anything. There is no evidence that these people ever even made it to Chuai. The Tag website mentiones 340+ employees at the facility, but nobody knows any of them? I think that number is something just to pad payroll and up the apparent expense.

- The 3rd quarter drilling results don't list Chuai at all. One thing is to list it with zeroes; another thing is to not acknowledge its existance. WB's comment of "there's no oil there" is because he assumes it's there, but not drilling.

I think the WB is landside, not on a platform, and is making the assumption that something is up with Chuai, but he assumes that Chuai is there, but not doing what it's supposed to. He senses something fishy, but isn't sure what.

If Chuai was there and destroyed, why would Tagruato hide it from the beginning?

Also, do note one thing: by all accounts, Chuai must be a HUGE platform. Also, it must be a major engineering accomplishment. Why no photos? I'd be proud to show off the progress on the assembly of the facility, especially to potential investors.


Dude, I hope you know that I highly respect your opinions, but this line of thinking is way off base.

We don't need "evidence." This is a movie. Everything we have learned so far points to a Chuai Station existing and shady happenings going on there. Occam's Razor.

It all hangs together nicely for a background story on MGP. Satellite catches something falling into mid-Atlantic. (Perhaps it's MGP's ship and he gets a mouthful of DSI and the story follows.) Eco-group has an agent on board the station. They then plan an "event" on board the station but when the second "wave" gets there they find nothing (MGP has eaten the DSI and pandemonium ensued.) Tagruato probably knows what really happened and knows that they can't keep the knowledge of a missing platform a secret for long so they admit something happened. In the corporate world this is known as CYA: Cover Your Ass.

This is fiction and this would work nicely.
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 		OK, so I set up my Google Earth Community account...
Here's the link to the location I was talking about:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1087788/an/0/page/0#1087788
Now, if you've got Google Earth, under Layers click the arrow to open the Gallery section and put a check by the Google Earth Community layer checkbox. Take note of the info markers a bit north of the place pin. Also take a look at the topography... look like it might be familiar?
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Euchre wrote:
OK, so I set up my Google Earth Community account...
Here's the link to the location I was talking about:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1087788/an/0/page/0#1087788
Now, if you've got Google Earth, under Layers click the arrow to open the Gallery section and put a check by the Google Earth Community layer checkbox. Take note of the info markers a bit north of the place pin. Also take a look at the topography... look like it might be familiar?


the titanic?

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http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1087788/an/0/page/0#1087788


Hey, that does look like the same topographic as our son-air image...
Good call Euchre.
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