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mortality
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Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 428
So there's a choice: support Nate (sounds like he needs a much better plan); support Bobby (also needs a better plan); support both (to counter purposes? de facto win for the demons?); support the demons outright (for the masochists with a death wish?).
Bobby's kind of a condescending prick, but helping to fight the demons head-on might be more fun and fulfilling than helping Nate run. (Is this the sadists with a death wish group, then?)
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:31 pm
Sylvia
I Have No Life
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 2062
nilradical wrote:
Okay, I think that's everything I got. Sorry if this is a bit long! It seems like Nate and Bobby's plans are going to diverge pretty soon, so we may have to choose between them... not sure what to do on that one. For now, I guess I'll probably keep digging on whatever research they need, and play for time. Also, I must admit I'm very curious who leaked Nate's contact to Bobby...
Well, I'm sticking with Nathan. He's the one who gave us our angel names to help protect us and, as everyone knows, I never trusted Bobby from the beginning and still don't.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:52 pm
phantomaz
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Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 99 Location: italy
mmmhhh
i think that for now we can continue to listen to Nate and Bobby and stick with the "winner" at the end....
What we want??stop the daemons??so for now let's continue with all 2 the plans that they propose, and when we are sure of what to do we'll see...
On the other side if somebody has Andras email please tell me...i don't like humans too much X)
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:06 pm
highwind767
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Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 501 Location: In the skies
So we have a choice of either helping to bind and kill some extremely powerful demons, or destroy one powerful magical crystal.
I'd preferably side with Nate, as his plan seems the less suicidal of the two, plus I can foresee Bobby's somehow going wrong. Demon's are tricky (Like you found out from that puzzle game) and higher demons are trickier, so i doubt they'd just roll over and die. But I'd say we should probably keep an eye out for information to help Bobby for now, just in case things go bad on Nate's side. After all, Bobby's plan can't continue until the last demon crosses on Feb 29th.
Anyway, I'll send any information I come across to Nate anyway. I just hope he trusts me since he has no idea who I am.
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:34 pm
faeryqueen21
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Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1348 Location: Pasadena, CA
Should we tell Nate that all he has to do is cast the Focus Sphere into the fires of Mount Doom?
I'm all for helping out Bobby with what he is planning, but my loyalties lie with Nathan. So he comes first on my list. We can help both until we absolutely have to make a decision. Hopefully we'll have more information by then.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:25 pm
jjocke
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Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 164
F.O.N.C Friends of Nathan Cade I think we all got involved in this in the first place to help Nathan, not to use him as a pawn in Bobby's plan. Bobby should be strung along until we get Nathan to give us his end game and then make our choice.
Unrelated note - Was that way out of line for the PM (CANAN) to show our email addresses to everyone else in the last message he sent us?
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:48 pm
faeryqueen21
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Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1348 Location: Pasadena, CA
I don't think it's out of line unless you really don't want your e-mail shared. It does show that he doesn't know to use the CC field as a way to avoid that, but that's probably out of inexperience and not malice. It happens quite a bit actually.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:04 pm
southernbitch
Boot
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 55
The plot thickens!!!
I am staying neutral until I have to make a decision! I need more information on both plans before I will know which one might work and that is the one I will probably go with.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:49 pm
Darren Knight
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Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 494 Location: Parsippany, New Jersey
Totally agree with Sylvia and group, we are supporting Nate and not bobby. Though I think we Nates plan (though more sporadic) seems like the literal safer choce for both bobby and Nathan.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:28 pm
jjocke
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Joined: 30 Oct 2007 Posts: 164
Bobby - Singer Saint - Michael We probably all agree that Bobby is not the Archangel Michael, but I would like to start challenging Bobby more directly about who he really is.
I posted some "research" on the Angel's Haven safe site regarding the Arch Angel Michael. If Bobby is who he said he is (Michael) - he commands the Army of Heaven and has previously bested Satan and his minions. He should be able to kick some major demon butt.
He was using Singer Saint as a name with the reference to Saint Francis. and his my space page says his given name is
Quote:
Robert Singer, but I go by Bobby. My friends call me Singer Saint. It's funny though for having a nickname like saint I am one of the least religious people you may ever meet."
Maybe reading too much into this, but Sylvia has never trusted him either.
Also Nilradical says in his talk to Nate
Quote:
info Nate mentioned-- apparently he got into this whole thing through Bobby. He had an obsession with the occult through which he met Bobby. Bobby showed him how to use his psychic gifts, and introduced him to this whole demon organization (though Nate had no idea that's what it was at the time). He thought he was a special team organized to accomplish a great goal (for good), but didn't find out what it was really for until he was already under contract. Apparently they had a sort of cult-like entrance period where they gave up all worldly possessions (bank accounts, etc), so if Nate flees, he'll be on foot with no resources.
So why would Michael be working in any capacity associated with Andras?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:54 am
faeryqueen21
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Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 1348 Location: Pasadena, CA
One could argue that Bobby got involved with them in the first place to get access to the gate and eventually seal it forever. Then he would have recruited Nate to help him with that task. The thing is, would not the demons know he was Michael? I mean, even if he changed his look, don't you think the demons could smell God juice all over him? And it's pretty weird for the highest Angel to be an athiest.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:39 pm
jjocke
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I think the PM is obviously reading this thread, but what the heck.
Anyways, Bobby has seen the post on the Angels Haven and commented on it.
Quote:
This is what the humans think of me? Some is true, some is false. Why pray tell are you researching me?
Why is he so leery of us all of a sudden?
I replied to the comment on the site and told him to tell us the true story of michael.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:04 pm
Sylvia
I Have No Life
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 2062
Maybe you should tell him that we want to make sure we have all the angles covered before SATIN SATAN REIGNS (SINGERSAINT) I truly believe that singesaint was suppose to be an anagram of "satan reigns" but they just misspelled it or maybe it's spelled that way somewhere. Or tell him we want to make sure we don't get the satin pulled over our eyes.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:35 am
.Trace
Boot
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 53 Location: England
Posted by SS in reply to the research about him.
Quote:
I never said your research was faulty, just one perspective. I have no power, but that which is granted me by Him. I have been given the tools I need to complete this task and you, my friends, are some of the most powerful tools at my disposal. As for my history, you are correct. I once lead my kin and the armies of Heaven against the legions of Hell and prevailed, but there is more to the battle than your kind knows. How could they, other than the visions granted to them in ages past? The visions granted are very commonly metaphorical in their imagery and so I was depicted in a way so that those seeing the visions would understand my power and place in Heaven. In those times a mighty robed figure wielding a flaming sword and cutting his foes down before him while calling out commands to the armies around him reeked of power. Nowadays common video games allow people to play avatar to such visions. In reality the battle for heaven was subdued and only happened because He willed it necessary. Much of the battle was fought in words, troop movements and minor skirmishes. I did command the army (and still do) and helped finish the grim work when I had to, but rarely did I step foot on a battlefield. I tell you this to make this point, the visions given to your kin were one-sided. Not only in the imagery, but also in its content. The forces of Heaven and Hell are evenly matched in power. Andras and I would likely kill each other in combat if we were to fight directly. Everyone on both sides recognizes this and so we choose to attack each other in other ways. We have spent centuries trying to sabotage the other and find a proverbial chink in the armor, but to no avail. Up until this point all of our plans (and theirs) have failed. This is the newest plan and I fear that is the one foretold by John to your people so long ago. This is why I work to stop the oncoming storm so diligently. Is there anything more you wish to know about me? I would glad to answer any questions you may have.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:58 pm
highwind767
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Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 501 Location: In the skies
Interesting. So Heaven and Hell are in a deadlock?
Somehow I think that disrupting the balance would be a bad thing. It usually is.
I've tried posting about Bobby's power and how he cloaks himself. If we can find out that information, chances are we could be able to relay it to Nate to help his escape. If he can tap into that same power or use it to hide from Bobby, it could aid his escape.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:58 pm
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