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Patman36
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And just to add, I have e-mailed the Endoil.org people to see if they can offer any additional information, both IG and OOG.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:33 pm
smartmart
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 351
rocksmars wrote:
Mukatsuku wrote:
I apologize if this comes through as a double post but my post I just made seems to have vanished.
Just to confirm - the translation I made of the Japanese video was correct so you can remove all my doubting comments (I live in Japan but have yet to gain confidence in the language, apparently unnecessarily so) - I checked with one of my Japanese friends and what I said was correct.
Also, Tagruato denies the existence of the armed troops, but the newscaster points out that they are wearing the Tag logo.
Thirdly, the tanker was definitely coming from Norway and going to New York when contact was lost with it - it's not related to Tag or Tidowave as far as we can see so far - the news reports certainly don't think it's from either group.
The Hav Lind may be to show one of 2 things neither of which has to do with the destruction of Chuai. It could be to show MGP is on the move but in that case Hav Lind would have been destroyed and it doesn't seem to have been. The second is that it may have been effected by a Tsunami created by the "earthquake" which would be to show how strong that was.
yes , i think it's to emphasize that something is happening in the atlantic ocean, particularly in this region
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:36 pm
Mukatsuku
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Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 55
rocksmars wrote:
Mukatsuku wrote:
I apologize if this comes through as a double post but my post I just made seems to have vanished.
Just to confirm - the translation I made of the Japanese video was correct so you can remove all my doubting comments (I live in Japan but have yet to gain confidence in the language, apparently unnecessarily so) - I checked with one of my Japanese friends and what I said was correct.
Also, Tagruato denies the existence of the armed troops, but the newscaster points out that they are wearing the Tag logo.
Thirdly, the tanker was definitely coming from Norway and going to New York when contact was lost with it - it's not related to Tag or Tidowave as far as we can see so far - the news reports certainly don't think it's from either group.
The Hav Lind may be to show one of 2 things neither of which has to do with the destruction of Chuai. It could be to show MGP is on the move but in that case Hav Lind would have been destroyed and it doesn't seem to have been. The second is that it may have been effected by a Tsunami created by the "earthquake" which would be to show how strong that was.
It certainly wasn't heading to or from Chuai according to the Japanese news - so the Tag connection can be pretty much ruled out.
Also, a timeline wasn't mentioned so we don't know if the tanker vanished before or after Chuai - since it vanished closer to New York, I would guess the tanker incident was more recent.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:36 pm
dontlookmyage
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Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 302 Location: A Parasite/MGP-Free Zone in Piscataway, NJ
I went back over the French video again. A couple of things:
1) It corroborates the story in the American version of the report about proceedings against Tag in the U.S.
2) As someone mentioned in the mega-thread, jr, that giant KEY and box most probably has some significance - or it may be pointing to us that this interview is KEY. I still am not sure how, unless Mdme LeClerc is Le Bandit Vert or Janice.
3) It seems that the French video is incomplete - it stops mid-sentence. Maybe we should look for a second part, like there was of the Korean video?
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:38 pm
Mukatsuku
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Does anyone think that Tagruato denying all existance of the armed troops mean that those people could be Tidowave wearing Tag logos to look like they are part of Tag?
Personally I think Tag is simply embarrassed they exist as they would contravene at least Japanese law if not international law, but there are other possibilities there.
I think this is the only video that mentions Tagruato denies the armed people exist.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:40 pm
Slusho Addict
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Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 920
dontlookmyage wrote:
3) It seems that the French video is incomplete - it stops mid-sentence. Maybe we should look for a second part, like there was of the Korean video?
A few of them do that, the US one for example. I don't think there's more than what we've seen from those reports.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:41 pm
Eddy
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Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 194
Just base speculation, but I questioned how the military reacted so fast. With the oil rig disaster hitting the news, the coast guard somewhere in the area, it might be that MGP isn't a complete mystery to the government -- meaning, they're possibly figuring it out and/or even trying to track MGP. It would follow then that we might get a few more "news" stories between now and the 18th, and possibly even a government press conference type situation. An early alerted military could also explain the explosion (you know, shot first, ask questions later).
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:43 pm
rocksmars
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Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 305
In looking at the French vid it may be the key is next to the box and so that is the key. "Janice's pic" may not have contained the info but was made to be sure you knew when the info was there.
The top of the box has cutouts, could these be letters or symbols?
Is it possible for someone to cut that out and rotate it?
I'm not a graphics wiz.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:47 pm
smartmart
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 351
for sure, by now, many countries are having Tagruato in close sight. They have oil rigs all over the world and nobody wants an "exxon valdez" near its shore. so by the 18th it is plausible to say that the situation is already monitored somehow and MGP is already suspected/known to exist, but kept secret (like they always do in movies)
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:49 pm
Lupinicus
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 92
Mukatsuku wrote:
rocksmars wrote:
Mukatsuku wrote:
I apologize if this comes through as a double post but my post I just made seems to have vanished.
Just to confirm - the translation I made of the Japanese video was correct so you can remove all my doubting comments (I live in Japan but have yet to gain confidence in the language, apparently unnecessarily so) - I checked with one of my Japanese friends and what I said was correct.
Also, Tagruato denies the existence of the armed troops, but the newscaster points out that they are wearing the Tag logo.
Thirdly, the tanker was definitely coming from Norway and going to New York when contact was lost with it - it's not related to Tag or Tidowave as far as we can see so far - the news reports certainly don't think it's from either group.
The Hav Lind may be to show one of 2 things neither of which has to do with the destruction of Chuai. It could be to show MGP is on the move but in that case Hav Lind would have been destroyed and it doesn't seem to have been. The second is that it may have been effected by a Tsunami created by the "earthquake" which would be to show how strong that was.
It certainly wasn't heading to or from Chuai according to the Japanese news - so the Tag connection can be pretty much ruled out.
Also, a timeline wasn't mentioned so we don't know if the tanker vanished before or after Chuai - since it vanished closer to New York, I would guess the tanker incident was more recent.
Just to try and keep things together, most of the ideas about tankers in this thread have already been discussed here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23255
and are still being discussed. If you're interested in the tanker angle, head there (only 2 pages to read!)
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:50 pm
smartmart
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007 Posts: 351
rocksmars wrote:
In looking at the French vid it may be the key is next to the box and so that is the key. "Janice's pic" may not have contained the info but was made to be sure you knew when the info was there.
The top of the box has cutouts, could these be letters or symbols?
Is it possible for someone to cut that out and rotate it?
I'm not a graphics wiz.
i tried to but the image quality is not good enough to see anything. we need a video with greater resolution for that
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:51 pm
Mukatsuku
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Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 55
Lupinicus wrote:
Mukatsuku wrote:
rocksmars wrote:
Mukatsuku wrote:
I apologize if this comes through as a double post but my post I just made seems to have vanished.
Just to confirm - the translation I made of the Japanese video was correct so you can remove all my doubting comments (I live in Japan but have yet to gain confidence in the language, apparently unnecessarily so) - I checked with one of my Japanese friends and what I said was correct.
Also, Tagruato denies the existence of the armed troops, but the newscaster points out that they are wearing the Tag logo.
Thirdly, the tanker was definitely coming from Norway and going to New York when contact was lost with it - it's not related to Tag or Tidowave as far as we can see so far - the news reports certainly don't think it's from either group.
The Hav Lind may be to show one of 2 things neither of which has to do with the destruction of Chuai. It could be to show MGP is on the move but in that case Hav Lind would have been destroyed and it doesn't seem to have been. The second is that it may have been effected by a Tsunami created by the "earthquake" which would be to show how strong that was.
It certainly wasn't heading to or from Chuai according to the Japanese news - so the Tag connection can be pretty much ruled out.
Also, a timeline wasn't mentioned so we don't know if the tanker vanished before or after Chuai - since it vanished closer to New York, I would guess the tanker incident was more recent.
Just to try and keep things together, most of the ideas about tankers in this thread have already been discussed here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23255
and are still being discussed. If you're interested in the tanker angle, head there (only 2 pages to read!)
Sorry - the video thread split into so many parts, I had no clue which thread to post my updated translation to.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:53 pm
fleabit
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Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 125
Military of any type being in the area may just mean they themselves don't believe that to be an oil rig, and are monitoring. I mean the military is not going to take a blind eye to a "oil rig" that isn't really an oil rig, that houses armed soldiers and that many scientists, especially in such close proximity to the American coastline. While Joe Public may buy that an oil rig is what they say, you'd think such a base would be under immediate scrutiny by the military at least.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:53 pm
Mukatsuku
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Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 55
I think the Tagruato denial of armed troops can go one of two ways:
1) Tagruato are lying and they have armed troops
2) the armed troops are pretending to be Tagruato by wearing the logos
if 2) is true, then the question is are these people TIDOwave or another body?
Personally, though, I think 1) is more likely.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:58 pm
imnutty
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Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 69
"All of our members know our goals and motivations are preservation of Mother Earth"
I think this line just bugs me out but makes me think that Mother earth means the monster and there trying to save it from Tagruato holding it at the chuai station?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:24 pm
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