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 Forum index » Archive » Archive: Cloverfield (1-18-08) » Cloverfield: General / Updates
[NEW] Chuai Videos- Conclusions
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Nighthawk
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Mukatsuku wrote:
Does anyone think that Tagruato denying all existance of the armed troops mean that those people could be Tidowave wearing Tag logos to look like they are part of Tag?


"Oh my god! NINJAS! We're gonna... Oh, they're wearing the corporate logo. Never mind, carry on..."

The only way they would be able to blend in and "infiltrate" the site is if Tagruato had hooded ninjas on the platform in the first place. If Tagruato didn't have guys that looked like this, they would raise a few eyebrows roaming around the platform wearing dark outfits, hoods and carrying automatic weapons.

The Spanish video, when it mentions TIDOWave, uses the appearance of the ninjas in the video as possible proof that TIDOWave was on the platform, even trying to point out the TIDOWave logo (which it clearly is not).

That might have been plausible and unclear... until the picture on the 1-18-08 site made it absolutely clear that the ninjas are wearing Tagruato logos.

They are not TIDOWave; it would make no sense to assume that they are... They are Tagruato employees maintaining order.

BTW, on a side note... it seems pretty clear that the only people on the platform are scientists. Where are the gritty drill workers? The guys covered in oil and dirt, like in Armageddon? That place is way to immaculate to be an oil drilling platform (unless it's like the platform in Diamonds are Forever...).

...but we knew that already... Smile

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Melodyman
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C'mon guys.. Lets think here.. The pic of Mdme LeClerc's son couldnt be the "Janice Pic" we are told to look for. Why? Because, simply, how would Randy (or whomever wrote the TIDO blog about wait for Janices Picture) know that the platform would sink and that a french newsteam would interview her and she would then hold up a picture with a message in it that TIDO members would know to watch and find clues in?
Sorry. Too much to swallow here.
Nope. I expect some new hack somewhere since the TIDO site has now been shown worldwide and now Tag spies will be looking for Janices pic as well..

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Nighthawk wrote:

BTW, on a side note... it seems pretty clear that the only people on the platform are scientists. Where are the gritty drill workers? The guys covered in oil and dirt, like in Armageddon? That place is way to immaculate to be an oil drilling platform (unless it's like the platform in Diamonds are Forever...).

...but we knew that already... Smile


There's those guys in boilersuits and hardhats on the cameraphone footage.

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Kingpin
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eliwein, thank you. I was in the mid-70s of the topic last night when I just decided to call it a day, and to see when I logged into a half hour ago that it was in the 100s, I decided then and there to just stop viewing it, especially with the page long arguments about the New York video being supposedly fake, and all the discussion of black blobs that regardless if the fact whether they were there or not... won't exactly give us a better idea of things in the long run.


Additional notes:

*Contained in at least 5 of the news casts (Italian, Japanese, Russain Korean [1 of 3] and French) were press statements from Tagruato about the incident at the station. The document appeared in Japanese in the Italian cast whilst it appeared in English in the Japanese and Russian news casts. It is unknown which language release appears in the French report as it's too small to make out the individual words or latters. It appeared in both languages in the Korean news cast.

*Items relating to the stricken Tagruato tanger appeared in the Korean report with the 'JNN' footage and in the untitled Japanese news cast.

*The French report makes note of the uniforms the Tagruato 'guards' are wearing, the Japanese news cast makes mention of reports of Tagruato building a private army.

*The news has been led to believe that Chuai Station is for oil drilling, this line of thinking is underscored in the English news cast where the reporter indicates what she believes is oil in the helicopter footage, and contacts the real-life organisation EndOil for their comments on the incident.

*Shooting is believed to be seen in the helicopter shot of the station, however the white flashes are also believed to be some form of lighting system as they do mimmick the flash of strobe lights.

*T.I.D.O. Wave is directly referenced to by the English, Japanese, Spanish, Italian, Korean (video 2 of 3) and French newscasts.

*Previously reported as a man in a dress shirt and tie, further observation suggests this man was a Tagruato scientist as he appears to be wearing a lab coat.

*The seismology reports of the region are covered in the Spanish and Italian reports.

*The Korean videos have individual datestamps at the start of each piece, running across the period of December 27-28-29.

*Tagruato personnel are blurred out in the first and third Korean news casts (the people in the helicopter in 1 of 3 and the people in the boat in 3 of 3.

*The static at the end of the boat footage is notably different in the third Korean video.

*Korean vidoes 1 and 3 (JNN Breaking News 27th :Chuai Oil Rig Disaster ) and (JNN News: Chuai Oil Rig disaster (14 Korean onboard)) appear to be chronologically as the cut off dialogue over the continental map in 'Breaking News 27th' continues in '14 Korean onboard'.

*A building purported to be a Tagruato corporate headquarters is seen in the Russian news cast and the third Korean video.


My comments:

The Korean and Russain pieces appear to be made by the same individual as they both show this Tagruato building. It's impossible for the Korean one to have nicked the picture from the Russian one as it's too small, and on an angle. I believe that the opposite is unlikely as I believe a graphic appears over the whole image in the Korean footage.

Therefore it's my belief that the image of the Tagruato buildig, like the footage was distributed to all production companies involved (and there seems a reasonable level of belief that each country had a company that was contacted by the Cloverfield team to make a news report for their specific country) and that the Russian and Korean reports are in game rather than clever gamejacks, it's that or ff the Russian one is fake then both reports showing the Tagruato building are clever gamejacks.
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Wait! There's a THIRD Korean video? I thought there were only two. BRB...
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http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_lkbl.html

Is this the referenced earthquake?

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Yes, that's the one I found and posted in the Mega video thread. And again by me here.

dontlookmyage wrote:

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I mentioned this before in the Mega-Thread, Jr. (video):
I looked at the USGS website to see if there was any seismic activity in the ATlantic during that time (though it would be OOG, since the USGS is a real entity and doesn't need the publicity like EndOil would), and there was an event on the 27th of December, very near where the event was said to be in a couple of the broadcasts. The next day, there was one in the P.R. Trench (where the fictional Kaika station is located, unrelated to the movie, but interesting to me, nonetheless). I attempted to see if there was a website for the Seismological Institute in Ribadeo, but found nothing. I did, however, find this website: http://www.orfeus-eu.org/Organization/participation.html, which, when I clicked on the link, came up with this message:
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I don't know if the Cloverfans are inundating that site, or if it has something to do with the movie, but I thought that to be interesting. I'm going to keep searching that angle during breaks in my workday today, now that stuff has died down a bit (for now). I also would like to look again at the French video (I actually said that on page 103 of the M.T, Jr.) and see if I notice anything in particular in the interview. I agree with those of the mind that there's some clue there, too. Will get back with my findings later...


Leaving for home now. Check back in later...

Edit and update: I checked the above-posted ink to the other seismological center, and they don't list the earthquake in the Atlantic Ocean, which I find very interesting. They DO list an earthquake in the Aleutian Islands. what's up with that?
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jortheo wrote:
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_lkbl.html

Is this the referenced earthquake?


Doubt it. Not only is it not very near Chuai (around 1000+ miles away), but I don't think the Puppetmasters could have worked it in to the newscasts so quickly (considering the quality of these newscasts, I'm guessing they've been in development for some time now).

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just feel weird how the english report would point this blob out. and it means nothing, we know theres no oil there.





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dontlookmyage wrote:
Wait! There's a THIRD Korean video? I thought there were only two. BRB...


Yep, here they are Smile:

1) YouTube: JNN Breaking News 27th Chuai Oil Rig Disaster
2) YouTube: JNN News Chuai Oil Rig disaster (14 Korean onboard)
3) YouTube: JNN News Chuai Oil Rig Collapse (10 Koreans onboard)

They appear to have been uploaded in the order 1,2,3, on the same day. Each of the videos has a time stamp with #1 being stamped as the 27th December, the second as being the 28th of December and the third as being the 29th of December. However #1 and #3 have overlapping dialogue... like they're from the same feed but cut at slightly different points when the feed went to the map showing the explosion site and had the image of the tanker.

They're all uploaded by the same user, so it'd be interesting to hear where he got them from.
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keseki wrote:
just feel weird how the english report would point this blob out. and it means nothing, we know theres no oil there.





i've been really wondering about why the US media hasn't been playing this up as much as the international coverage. i wonder if the general downplaying in the US has anything to do with that. or maybe i'm just an idiot... but i feel like with how precise many of the clues have been, there's something to it.

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Regarding the Tag guards:

Yes, they aren't blending in wearing balaclavas and carrying guns, unless those sort of guards were there already, but whose to say they were blending in at all? We don't see any scenes of them with people acting calm, so it's possible they only wore the Tag logo for videos, such as these we have received.

Secondly, it's not the Japanese video that says they are building a private army, that was the German video - the Japanese video says that Tagruato denies all existance of the armed people.

One more thing - the Japanese video also states that they know TIDOwave was close to, not on the station so they aren't announcing they were infiltrated.

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I don't know why people are saying that the ninjas are TIDOwave.
It seems very obvious to me that they are tagruato employees. Tagruato knows that there's a very dangerous threat on or near the chuai station and wants to have their asses covered by having armed men on board. Of course they're going to say that this is not true to the media; why have armed men on board an oil station?

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ummmm, i typically dont post stuff like this but this video is actually has me seeing something....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GasDOuYUffM&NR=1[/youtube]

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Woah that is wierd on the vid just wish it was a better rez so I could tell what it is. .... Ah well May someone will to a sready cam/fram by fram of the original so we can get a better look.

lol just notice "7" missing persons... Damn numbers thing again I think I am becoming OCD with the numbers 6 and 7

(Edit: cuz hooked on fonix woks fer me)
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