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[jabroni]

The CM emailed me a clue, "negative."

I figured out the last code:

[El Neil]

well done nic!

so what now? maybe i should write another of my ranting posts. usually when i do that, a video comes out the next day just to spite me

neil

[gchs titan]

jabroni how did you get the line thousha llnot bowd ownt hy sel fun?

EDIT:never mind its the beginning of the verse.

[Deadfish]

Deuteronomy 5:9 King James Bible
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the
LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that
hate me,

I saw that you already edited but fiured I'd post it here.

[gchs titan]

well now that i feel like a total dummy, i may as well ask another question. how do you do the negative rot like you did jabroni

[Deadfish]

[two-eyes-and-a-nose]

[jabroni]

I think this is the easiest way to decode the cipher.

1. Take a blank sheet of paper and write the alphabet vertically down the side.
2. Write the cipher on one line, and the verse directly below it (note: he used shall, not shalt).
3. Put your pencil on the first letter of the code (on the list you made). So that would be G.
4. Look at the corresponding letter of the bible verse. That would be T.
5. Now, start going backwards and say the alphabet out loud until you get to T. If you reach the top (a) go back to the bottom. Remember to go backwards, and dont start counting until the first one before the key letter.

So:

gqrctmm wzclm odoi ieoh pd vfz yvm
thousha llnot bowd ownt hy sel fun
michael knows more than he can say

A (f)
B (e)
C (d)
D (c)
E (b)
F (start counting, a)
G Start Here
H
I
J
K
L
M (t)
N (s)
O (r)
P (q)
Q (p)
R (o)
S (n)
T (m)
U (l)
V (k)
W (j)
X (i)
Y (h)
Z (g)

So you land on M, the first letter of Michael. Lather, rinse, repeat.

To save time, I have used this method on the other two codes (I separated them because I'm not sure if they are one big code or need to be done separately).

[two-eyes-and-a-nose]

I'd been trying the different pieces with a ROT 5 or 9 and then a Vigenere based on various parts of the verse, but to no avail. I'm new to this though.

I have, using CrypTool, been able to replicate your results, provided I specify an alphabet beginning with Z, then A through Y (the equivalent to a=1 in their system), also this had led to some interesting observations, such as that "code" decrypted with "plain text" equals "key", as does, of course, "code" decrypted with "key" equals "plain text", and others. This would just be an extension of basic mathematic laws, but thought the mention might be helpful for those more skilled at the execution that I have been up to now.

Also, CrypTool is free and can be found here: http://www.cryptool.com/.
(and no I'm not affiliated with it)

[jabroni]

[Das Llama]

I think that has been the deal with the puzzles in this game. Most have had to be done by hand. (cause he does something that takes it away from a typical cypher) In this one he converts the phrase to number value, then rot's it backwards. I think there were 1 or 2 that were substitution cyphers where crypt tool worked. (actually it was the one from TDC) Maybe there is a different way to do it on crypt tool, but havent figured it out yet or maybe there is another program out there that is easier........ Dont know .....


Das Llama

[Arwyn]

Received email from CM:

I asked him for a clue, and asked him whether the solution to the last solved cipher was the key for the next two somehow. He said:

"Well Done! One is the same, one is different."

I'm tryin to make heads or tails. So far... nothin. I'll keep trudging.

-Arwyn
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From the depths of oblivion, I rise.
(actually, I've been afk for a very long time.)

[two-eyes-and-a-nose]

Jabroni,

Here's a step by step:

[jabroni]

Ah thanks! That will make it a lot easier. I was trying to write a c++ program to do it but when you start out with a small number for the cipher and large number for the key, you get into negative numbers and I wasn't sure how to get that to work. So this will be way better. I guess I still never fully understood how vigenere works mathmatically, I just looked at the table of letters and tried to guess the key, or used an online applet or somethin.

Oh yeah, you can call me Nicole. Or if someone else says Nicole and you're wondering who it is.

[ThisProteanSoul]

Congrats, Nicole! I'm happy someone finally got it.

Wow. I don't think I'll ever get anywhere with codes.. trying to understand all that talk made my brain break down.