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[SPOILER][RANT] ARG versus MOVIE
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xboyonfirex wrote:


it's still an original monster [technically speaking]. i mean, sure it'll probably remind us of something else, but it's still an original. Anyways, I'm sticking up for this movie because No one is doing the smart thing:

HAVE AN OPEN MIND.


Amen.

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TPMdm wrote:
That's the point though, if this isn't an ARG and just a VMC then IMO it strips JJ of his genius title and puts hims pretty much squarely in the Hollywood mainstream. Monster movie? Been there done that. Movie shot as from a character's perspective? Heard of Blair Witch Project?

Unique Monster? I'm calling BS on that too cause it sounds an aweful lot like a cross between
(took pictures out)


And the Predator was a Jamaican professional wrestler with bad teeth.

And the Alien was an oxygen tank and a lizard.

And Michael Myers was William Shatner. Bigger and deadly.

Just because it bears a modicum of resemblance to the Rancor or the Starship Troopers aliens doesn't defeat the fact that this is a freaky-looking creature that is still astonishingly original. Monsters are monsters are monsters, it's only a plot device for destruction and character development.

I dropped out of the Cloverfield online stuff after two weeks of scrutinizing everything and nothing on the trailer. I was digging the campaign but just couldn't take the static to noise ratio on these lines because it moved really slow to begin with. Then I come back and realize that it was pretty damn cool.

ARGs are awesome, but getting cool backstory to a movie that would otherwise not have it is pretty damn neat. I've enjoyed catching up without having to worry about piles of puzzles.

Anyhow, speaking of the Blair Witch (and maybe whatever Haxan dudes are still lurking the board can say something? Even in PM? This has always bugged me), I'm still trying to figure out what all that "Heather is calling Elly Kedward with the POWER OF WITCHY!" had to do with the movie. I read all these journal entries of hers for weeks up until the movie and then she was all surprised to have some evil ghost start causing crap. Was there ever a plan to resolve that?

(and yes, that was an intentional allusion - was BWP the first to really do immersive net backstory that helped build the ARG idea? It was pretty disconnected, too... but ah well, it was still pretty neat)
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And Michael Myers was William Shatner. Bigger and deadly.


Well THAT should fuel my nightmares until I watch the movie... thanks!

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 		I still don't think that this can be considered a full-blown ARG

More Viral Marketing. But its been fun.

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 		1) People assumed that this was an ARG. It's not; it never has been.

2) People are assuming that this is done. I hardly think that. If this becomes the icon that it appears to be heading for, there might be hope for an ARG/E yet.

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xboyonfirex wrote:

Awkward...

Anyways- Why is everyone surprised about the lack of Tagruato/Slusho??? I mean, Remember the time when Matt Reeves said that the movie could still be watched w/o the ARG/Interactive something something? There is a great big world outside of Unfiction.com guys. And it's filled with people who don't know/don't care about 'ARGs' or any viral campaigns... They just want to enjoy a movie that doesn't leave them wondering what the hell they're talking about. I can settle w/ a passed out Jamie... wait. that's sounds wrong.


For the record this has nothing to do with the lack of tagruato, etc. I understand and expected it. This has to do with the movie NOT taking place in the same timeline as the ARG/Viral. If all we see of Tag, TIDO etc. is the tanker and the slusho shirt I'd be happy as hell.

I wanted the monster in the movie to be the same one who destroyed Chuai station. This simply can not be. Chuai was attacked December 26/27, 2007. I'm not sure about the year, but NYC gets attacked in May (either 07 or 0Cool. So either the whole world forgot about NYC being destroyed by a monster when Chuai gets destroyed or the monster was totally silent and the post Chuai investigation turned up nothing "monsterish" during the 7 months after the attack leading up to the NYC attack.

Is cloverfield an entertaining movie? I hope so and I'm gonna find out in a week or so. Does the movie have anything to do with the ARE/ARG/VMC? nope... sorry, at least not plotwise

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TPMdm wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:

Awkward...

Anyways- Why is everyone surprised about the lack of Tagruato/Slusho??? I mean, Remember the time when Matt Reeves said that the movie could still be watched w/o the ARG/Interactive something something? There is a great big world outside of Unfiction.com guys. And it's filled with people who don't know/don't care about 'ARGs' or any viral campaigns... They just want to enjoy a movie that doesn't leave them wondering what the hell they're talking about. I can settle w/ a passed out Jamie... wait. that's sounds wrong.


For the record this has nothing to do with the lack of tagruato, etc. I understand and expected it. This has to do with the movie NOT taking place in the same timeline as the ARG/Viral. If all we see of Tag, TIDO etc. is the tanker and the slusho shirt I'd be happy as hell.

I wanted the monster in the movie to be the same one who destroyed Chuai station. This simply can not be. Chuai was attacked December 26/27, 2007. I'm not sure about the year, but NYC gets attacked in May (either 07 or 0Cool. So either the whole world forgot about NYC being destroyed by a monster when Chuai gets destroyed or the monster was totally silent and the post Chuai investigation turned up nothing "monsterish" during the 7 months after the attack leading up to the NYC attack.

Is cloverfield an entertaining movie? I hope so and I'm gonna find out in a week or so. Does the movie have anything to do with the ARE/ARG/VMC? nope... sorry


Well, it has the same characters. We know that Rob is going to work for Slusho. Tagruato's symbol is on the destroyed tanker.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jamie is passed out at the party
I'd say that for anyone who knows the backstory will recognize these things- so they don't have to say'em. As for the date- we still don't know what's supposed to happen. No one said that Rob would be leaving ASAP. Plus- the VME isn't even over yet.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Remember, they show that Rob and Beth are together in the movie so my spec is that Rob gets the job, but isn't set to leave until May 23rd. So that gives He and Beth time together before he leaves. As for the 'why the monster doesn't attack until May 23rd- I'm sure we'll find that out in due time.


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xboyonfirex wrote:
TPMdm wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:

Awkward...

Anyways- Why is everyone surprised about the lack of Tagruato/Slusho??? I mean, Remember the time when Matt Reeves said that the movie could still be watched w/o the ARG/Interactive something something? There is a great big world outside of Unfiction.com guys. And it's filled with people who don't know/don't care about 'ARGs' or any viral campaigns... They just want to enjoy a movie that doesn't leave them wondering what the hell they're talking about. I can settle w/ a passed out Jamie... wait. that's sounds wrong.


For the record this has nothing to do with the lack of tagruato, etc. I understand and expected it. This has to do with the movie NOT taking place in the same timeline as the ARG/Viral. If all we see of Tag, TIDO etc. is the tanker and the slusho shirt I'd be happy as hell.

I wanted the monster in the movie to be the same one who destroyed Chuai station. This simply can not be. Chuai was attacked December 26/27, 2007. I'm not sure about the year, but NYC gets attacked in May (either 07 or 0Cool. So either the whole world forgot about NYC being destroyed by a monster when Chuai gets destroyed or the monster was totally silent and the post Chuai investigation turned up nothing "monsterish" during the 7 months after the attack leading up to the NYC attack.

Is cloverfield an entertaining movie? I hope so and I'm gonna find out in a week or so. Does the movie have anything to do with the ARE/ARG/VMC? nope... sorry


Well, it has the same characters. We know that Rob is going to work for Slusho. Tagruato's symbol is on the destroyed tanker.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jamie is passed out at the party
I'd say that for anyone who knows the backstory will recognize these things- so they don't have to say'em. As for the date- we still don't know what's supposed to happen. No one said that Rob would be leaving ASAP. Plus- the VME isn't even over yet.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Remember, they show that Rob and Beth are together in the movie so my spec is that Rob gets the job, but isn't set to leave until May 23rd. So that gives He and Beth time together before he leaves. As for the 'why the monster doesn't attack until May 23rd- I'm sure we'll find that out in due time.


Everything you say about tie-ins is fine and true except the dates don't match up and screws up the monster attacks. (did you even read what I said regarding that?)

Timeline 1:
May NYC gets demolished by a monster --> December (7 months later) an "oil rig" gets destroyed in a violent fashion and accompanied by the same "roars" during the NYC attack.....everybody assumes it's eco-terrorism?!?!?

Timeline 2:
December Chuai station gets destroyed --> May of the following year (i.e. 5 months later) NYC get attacked and everybody is shocked..... in 5 months they couldn't have ruled out eco-terror? We don't hear from the monster for 5 months? I know the ocean is HUGE but an aggressive 40+ story monster would certainly make an impact

There's either 2 separate story lines thinly connected by slusho or the ARG/ARE fails, but oddly enough wins as an VMC. The monster attacking Chuai IS NOT the monster attacking NYC. It simply can not be, it stretches all suspension of disbelief I have to assume either of the 2 timelines above.

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TPMdm wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
TPMdm wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:

Awkward...

Anyways- Why is everyone surprised about the lack of Tagruato/Slusho??? I mean, Remember the time when Matt Reeves said that the movie could still be watched w/o the ARG/Interactive something something? There is a great big world outside of Unfiction.com guys. And it's filled with people who don't know/don't care about 'ARGs' or any viral campaigns... They just want to enjoy a movie that doesn't leave them wondering what the hell they're talking about. I can settle w/ a passed out Jamie... wait. that's sounds wrong.


For the record this has nothing to do with the lack of tagruato, etc. I understand and expected it. This has to do with the movie NOT taking place in the same timeline as the ARG/Viral. If all we see of Tag, TIDO etc. is the tanker and the slusho shirt I'd be happy as hell.

I wanted the monster in the movie to be the same one who destroyed Chuai station. This simply can not be. Chuai was attacked December 26/27, 2007. I'm not sure about the year, but NYC gets attacked in May (either 07 or 0Cool. So either the whole world forgot about NYC being destroyed by a monster when Chuai gets destroyed or the monster was totally silent and the post Chuai investigation turned up nothing "monsterish" during the 7 months after the attack leading up to the NYC attack.

Is cloverfield an entertaining movie? I hope so and I'm gonna find out in a week or so. Does the movie have anything to do with the ARE/ARG/VMC? nope... sorry


Well, it has the same characters. We know that Rob is going to work for Slusho. Tagruato's symbol is on the destroyed tanker.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jamie is passed out at the party
I'd say that for anyone who knows the backstory will recognize these things- so they don't have to say'em. As for the date- we still don't know what's supposed to happen. No one said that Rob would be leaving ASAP. Plus- the VME isn't even over yet.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Remember, they show that Rob and Beth are together in the movie so my spec is that Rob gets the job, but isn't set to leave until May 23rd. So that gives He and Beth time together before he leaves. As for the 'why the monster doesn't attack until May 23rd- I'm sure we'll find that out in due time.


Everything you say about tie-ins is fine and true except the dates don't match up and screws up the monster attacks. (did you even read what I said regarding that?)

Timeline 1:
May NYC gets demolished by a monster --> December (7 months later) an "oil rig" gets destroyed in a violent fashion and accompanied by the same "roars" during the NYC attack.....everybody assumes it's eco-terrorism?!?!?

Timeline 2:
December Chuai station gets destroyed --> May of the following year (i.e. 5 months later) NYC get attacked and everybody is shocked..... in 5 months they couldn't have ruled out eco-terror? We don't hear from the monster for 5 months? I know the ocean is HUGE but an aggressive 40+ story monster would certainly make an impact

There's either 2 separate story lines thinly connected by slusho or the ARG/ARE fails, but oddly enough wins as an VMC. The monster attacking Chuai IS NOT the monster attacking NYC. It simply can not be, it stretches all suspension of disbelief I have to assume either of the 2 timelines above.


honestly the idea that it's NOT the same monster attacking both the oil rig and NYC is a little harder to believe than the time line. We don't know what's gonna happen because the VMC isn't done yet. I don't know who said that Rob was moving in January, I don't know who said that the monster went STRAIGHT to NYC right after it attacked the Chuai station, but I can almost guarantee it wasn't anyone official. And why was it such a surprise to everyone that the movie doesn't take place on 01-18-08? In Matt Reeves' interview in early December, he even SAYS that it doesn't take place in real time. All I know is before we start complaining about the VMC/ARE we should let it play out. It my explain a few things.

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 		Don't you guys watch Lost? There's going to be a monstrous mind-fuck that will make us all say "OOOOOOOOOOOOH!".

No one knows anything. Quit saying that "This is how it is. Sorry, just is." You don't know jack, none of us do.

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 		Yea, no firm timeline for anything has been given. It's all guesses by our part thus far, I certainly don't recall Parmount saying anything concrete about dates.

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 		A couple of people that have seen the movie said it COULD be Jamie passed out on the couch. It's a blond girl that resembles her, but it's never said "That's Jamie, passed out over there".

So that may be another part of this "game" that has no conclusion. I was hoping for her to "get it" in a video, or be seen in the movie getting squished.
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 		I was hoping for another video this week.

Could someone please explain why everyone thinks the movie takes place in May? Something other than the review which was posted. Everything else points to 1/18 (and it's been in the 60's - high 60's in Jersey this week).

I really hope all the chaotic fiction/viral marketing/ARG of Cloverfield will take us right up to the 18th. (although it will be hard to find the threads since everyone is posting spoilers all over the board.)

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Her wrote:
I was hoping for another video this week.

Could someone please explain why everyone thinks the movie takes place in May? Something other than the review which was posted. Everything else points to 1/18 (and it's been in the 60's - high 60's in Jersey this week).

I really hope all the chaotic fiction/viral marketing/ARG of Cloverfield will take us right up to the 18th. (although it will be hard to find the threads since everyone is posting spoilers all over the board.)


it's not just one review- there are 3 different reviews that have coinciding information about it being in May.

Plus, Matt Reeves even says that the movie doesn't take place on the 18th.

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 		Thank you, I stand corrected.

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