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[SPEC] 1-18-08 - Date inconsistencies?
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dist347
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Amen my brothers and sisters.

This was my first delvation (a word?) into the concept of ARG/ARE's and I found it totally engrossing. So much so that I got my wife, a complete and utter un-nerd, hooked on the myth and fun surrounding Cloverfield. We're wearing custom made shirts to the movie's premiere, and although no one here knows us, it would be the most out-of-character thing for her to do if you did know us, much less myself.

The point is, it doesn't matter in the long run if the dates match up, or if clues are resolved, because since last July, this entire thing has been about word-of-mouth marketing. And frankly, it's been brilliant. As I stated above, this was my first introduction to this entire concept, and I'm pretty tech- and interwebz-savvy.

So move beyond the fact that some things aren't, or won't be, brought full circle. It's been a fun ride, and regardless of whether the movie stinks or knox your sox off, you had fun somewhere along the way, and that should be worth the price of admission.

Besides, half the fun for me now is avoiding those G-D spoilers! I want to know NOTHING!

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iconsumer
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Aren't we basing the idea of it being in May on some unconfirmed pre-screening reports?

My bet is that it still is in real time and that these initial pre screening reports are wrong, otherwise you would think they would update the 1-18-08.com time stamps, and alter the time frame of the ARG to make it line up with the movie.

Just saying, if they are willing to back track via interviews, you would think they wouldn't feel bad about back tracking the few concrete clues we have to the ARG and movie being of the same time frame... once again by readjusting the time stamps and various mentions in the game to correlate with May.

Either that, or there is some twist we are not yet understanding as to the supposed time differences which makes sense when you put it all together.

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TPMdm
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slodis wrote:
*EDIT - exactly^^^^^^^

maybe the ARG continues and we find out his trip to Japan has been postponed until the spring - doesn't explain why it takes so long for MGP to make it to NY
(snip)


Also doesn't explain why the pictures of the monster attack are date stamped 01-18-08.

This screw up does explain why they went away from date stamping the pictures though doesn't it?

JJ to the guys handling the ARE "oh shit, they think it's taking place in January.... for god's sake stop putting date stamps on them!!!"

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I believe Matt Reeves at one time said they hadn't come up with a final name for the movie. And everything centered around the release date.

After a bit it has to become obvious. The movie is coming out on the 18th of January. No one has said anything about the movie taking place on that time.

So then the timestamps. Well maybe the timestamps were the clever way to convey the message that 1-18-08 was when the movie was coming out.

As I've said before. People here deal in an alternate reality version of gaming, yet get hung up on the fact that the reality in the movie differs from a framework in which no one has given, but some fans have imposed on this movie.

Matt Reeves or JJ Abrams never got online or TV or the radio and said "here's an ARG or interactive game for you to play along with. here's the canon story structure, knock yourselves out"

Once again some fans made this into a game, made the rules, and are now trying to reconcile the fact that it was a mistake.

For all you know everything you've seen so far at the beginning of the experience for us in July could have been November in the timeline of events leading up to it all. Who knows, or better yet at this point who cares? Or more importantly why care?
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I understand everything you guys are saying but still, all things considered, i think i will be very disappointed if the movie doesn't take place on the 18th.

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Then prepare for disappointment...

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JadedMax wrote:
With all of that said. I just look at it all now as if people are putting their wants and needs ahead of the primary reason this whole thing exists. We're pretty much all here because of Cloverfield.

Maybe people feel duped or cheated but look at the big picture. We're all a part of something pretty damned cool. What we call it, or the name of it, ARG or ARE or whatever semantics you want to use sucks.

It saps the fun right out of it. Now a segment of those following it have turned negative and are ruining it, right at the end. Because they've been conditioned that Cloverfield the movie has to be squeezed into this narrow box with stuff like the dates have to match up, or this photo is non canon, or this storyline was left out of the movie, or Jamie's not there or whatever.

What was a neat little experience turned into this labored obsession. I just want to see the movie, chill out with other fans and spread the word.

That's it.


You know what? (this is gonna suprise some people I think) I agree with most of what I just quoted. I do find it interesting that you mention other ARGs and tell us why this one isn't an ARG cause it doesn't fit with those and then complain cause we want this to be "squeezed into this narrow box".

I come at this "situation" from the background of having never been "in on it". I've read about I like Bees and some of the other more famous ARGs but I've never seen one while it was unfolding. I and many others made the conclusion that this ARE was running real time with the release of the movie and the events taking place in the ARE lead up to the events in the movie. People like xboyonfirex, m_talon, JadedMAx, etc. are getting upset because others, like myself, are confused that the ARE doesn't line up with the movie. Before you jump on me, let me ask you who led us to that conclusion? I didn't create any of the evidence and I had nothing to do with the movie.

JadedMax is upset that some of us are calling the movie OOG. Sorry, that's something you're going to have to deal with. It's a lot easier than repeatedly typing "the events of the movie do not line up with the pieces of information depicted in the viral marketing campaign, which really isn't an ARG". Whatever you want to call "this" those of you who criticize my position must surely admit that? Maybe you ARG/ARE veterans could also try to be a little more patient with those of us who expected this to follow a little more logic.

Also, for all you hindsight geniuses who keep saying this never was an ARG it was just a viral marketing campaign where's the sticky thread at the top of the forums? I see a sticky which says Ethan Haas has nothing to do with this. That got figured out pretty early.

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Boo hoo. After 6 months I wouldn't care if it took place during the dust bowl.
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Question: how far from the movie (A.I.) was "The Beast". Didn't it start because of something in the movie's credits (or was it a movie poster?), but beyond that was rather divergent?

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TPMdm wrote:
Maybe you ARG/ARE veterans could also try to be a little more patient with those of us who expected this to follow a little more logic.

Also, for all you hindsight geniuses who keep saying this never was an ARG it was just a viral marketing campaign where's the sticky thread at the top of the forums? I see a sticky which says Ethan Haas has nothing to do with this. That got figured out pretty early.


Not a problem, my friend. I've only said I disagreed this was an ARG/E. But hell, I've said that since at least September or earlier if I can find the posts. Understand I am not gonna bash anyone or trash you cause we simply disagree on semantics.

I don't believe you guys are all nerds, or holed up in mom's basement. You guys are just people out here searching like I am. It don't make ya bad people.

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Anyone let this site sit for 6 minutes to see if it roars at you? lol

Good find. Thank goodness for something new. But I still say it's an extended experience. Don't hate me. Wink

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http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21153&start=135
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JadedMax wrote:
TPMdm wrote:
Maybe you ARG/ARE veterans could also try to be a little more patient with those of us who expected this to follow a little more logic.

Also, for all you hindsight geniuses who keep saying this never was an ARG it was just a viral marketing campaign where's the sticky thread at the top of the forums? I see a sticky which says Ethan Haas has nothing to do with this. That got figured out pretty early.


Not a problem, my friend. I've only said I disagreed this was an ARG/E. But hell, I've said that since at least September or earlier if I can find the posts. Understand I am not gonna bash anyone or trash you cause we simply disagree on semantics.

I don't believe you guys are all nerds, or holed up in mom's basement. You guys are just people out here searching like I am. It don't make ya bad people.

JadedMax wrote:
Anyone let this site sit for 6 minutes to see if it roars at you? lol

Good find. Thank goodness for something new. But I still say it's an extended experience. Don't hate me. Wink

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http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21153&start=135



OK, that made me lol.... cause now I NEED to KNOW does that mean I trout you or you trout me or bizarrely enough do you trout yourself?

edit another question
Also time for you to shamelessly plug is this the place to go to get info on real honest to goodness ARGs? Cause honestly if this is a taste of what an ARG is like I want to be in on one that ends properly! Smile

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TPMdm wrote:



OK, that made me lol.... cause now I NEED to KNOW does that mean I trout you or you trout me or bizarrely enough do you trout yourself?


Haha. Mutually Assured Trouting.
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Nighthawk wrote:
Question: how far from the movie (A.I.) was "The Beast". Didn't it start because of something in the movie's credits (or was it a movie poster?), but beyond that was rather divergent?


It was "rather divergent", since it took place after the main action of AI and before the final act (no spoilers, but if you've seen it you know what I'm talking about).

There were references in the ARG to people and events from the movie, but for the most part it was a story that stood on its own. It did not rely on the movie to tell the story, nor did the movie rely on it. The two complemented each other quite well.

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My_Name_Is_Dan wrote:
Im actually starting to think...

Maybe the people who saw this film got it wrong?

Maybe this even takes place on JANUARY 18th..but the TAPE is FOUND in May 2008?
Which means maybe a Post-ARG leading up to May?


That's what I'd go with. I'm betting the marketing and ARG will continue up until the DVD release with more answers when that comes out.

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Been following this for the last couple of months, been very interesting. There is one thing that I always questioned from the beginning, and now with this thread I thought I would bring it up. If you look at the times on the pictures it does not fit. I know NY never sleeps, but they are saying the pictures start at 12:01 AM on 1/18/08. Can't believe that many NYers would be out partying down on a Thursday night / Friday morning.

What all happens in 48 minutes that morning seems like a lot, but I let it slide. After seeing some spoilers in the other threads I question if all of it takes place in that amount of time, and even in that order!! Maybe someone who has seen it will chime in.

Some of you are nitpicking that you are now finding out about times not matching up, about finding out it's not an ARG, etc. When I first started following this I knew it was a viro marketing thing, it was talked about more than once, very openly. If I could remember where I would be happy to link it, heck I don't even remember how / when I heard about Cloverfield anymore. I do remember that I heard it was a viro marketing thing so I looked a little more into it. Never heard of it being an ARG/ARE (didn't even know what that meant until I looked it up after stumbling across this place).

If all of this online stuff matches with the movie great, if not fine. Maybe it will be used more in the sequel. Heck the ideals that are thrown out here might be the basis for the sequel.

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