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[Tsakara]

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I think the explosion was some ship exploding at the docks, the explosion propelled a lot of large debris that didn't just burn up or fragment like wood or rock would, those were large metal chunks that it sent tumbling through the air, my guess is that a ships fuel tank ruptures, this causes and explosion which then triggers other secondary explosions from other fuel sources (cars, boats, etc) nearby creating the huge mounting fireball without the mushroom cloud.

2. The monster is huge only when its on its hind legs, which it doesn't appear to do. It looks like it normally walks on all fours, and stands up on its hind legs for short spurts, the other thing is that when it was at the subway and at central park it looks like when its on its stomach its only about 2 stories tall. since its aquatic it wouldn't be a huge stretch to think that it moves through the water on its stomach.

[starshiptrooper]

I know somebody just didn't say "tentacles". Even after seeing the movie, and the monster, somebody STILL says "tentacles".


There's only ONE monster.

"What is that thing?"

"Whatever IT is, IT'S winning."

NOT:
"Whatever THEY are, THEY'RE winning.

It was the monster's tail that destroyed the bridge. It was so painfully obvious to even the most casual observer. There's no freakin tentacles. There's only one monster.

There's no explanation needed for the large explosion at the beginning. There's lots of explosive things in a city. Natural gas pipelines, trains full of fuel, a fuel depot, anything could have caused that. Don't look too deeply into it.

[Roe]

^^

It's pretty clear where the explosion generally came from. Ellis Island is down that way, Statue of Liberty, and a bunch of apparentments, stores and offices along the island. Plus, a lot of water.

I think you will find the types of explosive things you described aren't typically in lower Manhattan. Simply because of the danger involved and the population there. Somewhere in the city yes, but not downtown lower Manhattan. Any pipelines would also be way underground in that area.

It's all way up in the air anyway. First of all, the directors and producers probably don't always get so worried about being specific where something can come from, like this explosion. I could easily believe they intended it to be the tanker, but other explanations make more sense in my world. Second, they made this movie so that about 95% of the information has to be guessed about--which is why I am going to get my monies worth.

[starshiptrooper]

We've been discussing and researching what could have cause that explosion for months, before any of you new people got here. I'd suggest everyone go research the last 6 months of work done by the people on this board before they post their facts. There's plenty of things in that area of Manhatten that could cause that explosion. You ever seen a tanker of fuel oil explode? Or a natural gas pipeline? How about a propane truck?

[elijunk]

Has anyone else related this explosion to the explosion of the Tagruato Oil Drill explosion? In the video of the explosion you clearly can hear the sounds of the monster, when the large drill sinks it explodes out of the water with large, heavy shrapnel objects that fly quite a distance. I find this very similar to the way to first explosion in the movie causes large chunks of debree to fly at long distances and very high in the air. I find it hard to believe that such explosions could cause as large of debree to fly so far and high, which leads me to believe that the monster does some sort of hitting or thrusting, or even perhaps swallows and spits debree out of its mouth. You can make this connection with the way he "throws" the statue of liberty head.

[Rudyred]

[penguin-1203]

[ScubaSteve1717]

[Stumper67]

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[Roe]

Starship:

I can appreciate members of the board has dicussed this stuff, but I am sure you don't have all the answers either. I am suprised you would suggest this, to be honest.

The whole point about questioning the explosion, it's size and source, is there is no definitive answer and it's questionable. It makes the theory the military caused the explosion plausible.

That explosion was in the city itself, and the flames reached as high as 40, 50 or 60 or more stories, and obviously across several blocks in every direction.

In the clip and in the movie you also see large flaming debris falling near the roof Hud, Rob and all of the party were observing from. A long, long way way. One lands on a nerby building, giving a good perspective on how large these falling pieces were. This was a HUGE explosion.

It wasn't a propane or fuel truck. Those things would never be allowed in any residential area if they had that much potential for distruction. Gas line? I know the big commerical ones that transport stuff from state to state might have this power, especially if that type of volume of gas was allowed to build up for a while. I could see this. I am not so sure about smaller gas lines--who knows..

It's not definitive and questionable, which is again, my point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfdsXVcKFpk&feature=related

[d0nu7]

No, the military would know how many of them there are. Bombers flying over city, jets, helicopters. They would report that "hey, I see two of them." And this would be reflected in the words of the military. In a situation all hectic like that, if you know something you would have to think yourself out of saying that there are more than one. The explosion does seem familiar to the drill situation. Both are very unnatural and implausible. An explosion big enough to throw stuff like it did would throw more than like 8-10 pieces. There would be hundreds if not thousands of pieces flying everywhere.

[sowht]

[Stumper67]

[longhorn07065]

i think it was the militarys last attempt to stop it getting to the city

[sowht]

Understood, just play'in with ya. I know, you know, that is not real, you know?

Your just as right that it could be from earth, matter fact it would sit better with me that our fantastic planet could have such creatures...

I was just making a possible, different take on it, that some may have found enjoyable to read...

Anyway, Maybe "Starshiptropper" was just worked up, like you, at all the newbies, new views, I understand... hay us newbies do suck at first but we are not "green" on other forums and I know how the veterans around here feel, too.

Well met, and thanx