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[META] Just Say No.
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The Stray
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 		That last part was a joke.
JadedMax wrote:
The Stray wrote:
Don't you people solve puzzles on this site? How is that possible with so little imagination? If you want to talk about yawning, love stories are tired. The draw of this movie was never really the people, it was the monster. If it had been about anything else do you think anyone would have gone to go see it? (Probably, but not as many I'd think.)

I guess it's hard to see it from your point of view because

1) You don't even like giant monster movies
2) I don't think we're entirely sure what it is you got out of it. You mentioned this feeling you got, but what is it exactly? It seems like you consider the monster more of a foot note and the people the focus... so...
3) You don't even LIKE giant monster movies
4) The scope of this if intended to be any larger can only be fantasized about at this point. But if you can't even do that...
5) You never paid for drugs. Not Once.


OK, now you've made this personal...

Love stories may seem tired to one who probably has no way of relating.

What I got out of it was simple. I was intrigued by a cryptic teaser trailer one day. After seeing the Statue of Liberty's head slam into buildings and the street I kinda wanted to know how my hometown was going to be destroyed this time.

Once again, you have no idea what interests me. Maybe a properly done monster movie would please me.... oops, sorry, it already did. Yes imagine (I'm using it now) if you will a monster movie without all that hack, cornball garbage that's plagued every other monster movie. One that's intelligently done. Not drawn out, or harped on too much. A monster movie that does not rely on cheap theatrics and actually has a deeper story within it.

Now imagine that movie being successful. Then before it even has a second out of it's box office weekend debut people want to hack it up and bog it down with sequels. It's not so much not liking monster movies per se. It' the hackneyed predictable cheesy TromaVision been there done this before bullshit that's in EVERY monster/horror movie.

Or it's this nonsense like spinning off franchises off one success. It's like KISS going on one more tour.

It's like going out playing Miss or Hit. "Wow, this kinda thing really worked, people liked it, now let's see how we can fuck it up"

And stop with the "JJ Abrams is God, he can do anything" stuff. I adore the man, but sequels suck in general.

Case and point Mission Impossible 3 That was revolutionary.

And what do drugs have to do with this? And better yet why post while using them?


Evidently, you haven't seen Walk Hard. That's okay though, that was a joke, not an insult.

I believe I stated that I didn't know what it was that interested you, so restated it in a re-iterative fashion is kind of pointless.

You can bash Giant Monster movies all you like, doesn't make you any better or worse, but it definitely doesn't make you right. First of all, this movie isn't necessarily "properly done" in comparison to other movies of it's kind, it's just done DIFFERENTLY. And no matter how much you wish it was something else, it's still just another giant monster movie. But you're just going to have to see that the hard way I suppose. Eventually Hollywood will be slapping you across the face with it (if they think there's any money in it anyway.) You can rant, and you can rave but that's not going to change anything. If I'm right then this is just the beginning and this won't be the last we've heard of this. If not, I doubt it was because it was meant to go nowhere. It'll be something practical like lack of funds.

I'll level with you though. If they really intended this to be the only movie JJ would definitely have failed his quest, and this movie would go down as forgettable as a meal last week. But I agree that it would be insanely difficult to attempt to take this in another direction if that was not their original intent. The reason the successful series of movies (Lord of the Rings for example) are successful is because they're planned to tell a complete story from the beginning. Instead of one movie being made, doing well, and then several others made to capitalize on this. And those usually don't end well. But I don't think this movie was made to be the only one. It's too big a setup to blow on a movie that nobody is going to remember because they didn't understand what was happening in it in the first place. Even if the movie was great, people will MAKE it forgettable simply because it confused them. People aren't going to dwell on a movie like that. I liked it, have seen it twice, and doubt I'll ever watch it again. No reason to. But the movie itself serves as a reason to watch another one.


[Edit] and Mission Impossible 3 was a joke. What kind of movie eludes to an impossible action sequence and focuses on two people sitting in a car talking vaguely about the plot of the movie instead? Stupid.

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 		There will be a prequel/sequel.Might as get ready for it.As for me,I CAN'T WAIT! Rock On
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 		I vote no sequel, too many of my favorites have attempted sequels and failed miserably, I expect the same from this. Loved the movie but why does everything have to be a freakin' trilogy these days. Move on.

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 		As I said before, I'll vote yes for a sequel if they make it a comedy. As the monster ventures to Harlem and dies a horrific death.

And Stray, it's cool. I'm just running with the bit. No big deal. I'm not mad at ya.
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cowboyfromhell wrote:
There will be a prequel/sequel.Might as get ready for it.As for me,I CAN'T WAIT! Rock On


Might as well be ready for it to ruin Cloverfield. As for me, I'm really upset about it.

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