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[SPOILERS] [Q]is ***** dead?????
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aar123
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[SPOILERS] [Q]is ***** dead?????

did lilly die??I only seen the movie once,but when they got into the helicopter hud was looking out the window and when they were taking off while he was looking out it looked like another helicopter was thrown on the building hud was looking at. im not sure just was kinda quick when the object hit the building so just let me know.

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Cmcnichol
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yeah, i saw the exact same thing and i was wondering why people were saying she made it. But it is possible that it was a different helicopter as there were probably many

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TheRabbit
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This has been discussed before, forums are being slow so I don't want to search for the original thread, the thing being thrown is a hummer, you can see it has wheels and is hummer shaped. As for if Lily made it is up to speculation, but we never see her die, and Rob doesn't list her as people that have died at the end, so the correct answer is "maybe."

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tyman
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im saying yes. remember when rob was basically crying to beth about everyone being gone

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Trixx
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tyman wrote:
im saying yes. remember when rob was basically crying to beth about everyone being gone


actually i'm glad you mentioned this

bcoz at the end when he is saying it killed his friends...he doesn't specifically mention lily...he points out marlena, Hud and Jason and then states "many others"

i'm sure the writers left lily out of his speech so that people could speculate as to whether she is alive or dead.


IMO...we only have rock-solid evidence that Marlena and HUD are dead. I'm not even 100% confident Jason is dead. I mean, it sure looks that way...but until I see a dead body...I wont 100% believe it

watching too much law & order will do this to you!

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Jman719
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I don't know about everyone else but Im still wondering about Rob and Beth. My mind says that they had very little to no chance but Im kind of hoping they lived. Anyone else wondering too or is the general consensus that they're dead.

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Zaggs
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Technically speaking the only one you could be reasonably sure of being dead is Hud. He's bloodied and not moving when Rob picks up the camera. The rest you can assume are dead (save lilly) but cannot be 100% sure. Jason falls from the bridge, Marlena is behind a curtain (another bite victim who has burst is being taken in on a stretcher, not body bag so could be alive), Lilly's helicopter takes off (though I cannot say the object thrown is a hummer it comes from the right, not from above as the helo would) and Rob and Beth are not seen after the first explosion.
Though the opening states that the government finds the camera, meaning most likely not turned over, that could just mean Rob and Beth being unconscious when they are found and cannot tell them about the camera.

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danieltx13
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I'd like to know the rationale behind Lily (seemingly) being the only one to make it out. I'd like to hear what Reeves / Abrams have to say about this.

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... I'm with you, Jman719 - I hope Rob & Beth made it, along with Lily. We still don't know about what happened to Jaimie (last seen passed out on the couch at Robs party), or Teddy (perhaps captured by TIDOWave - at least that's what he says to Jaimie on the voice recorder he sent her. Watch video #8 from the "jaimielovesteddy" site). I seriously doubt Robs brother survived - it looked like that steel girder landed directly on top of where he was. And of course, there's our poor, sweet, slightly goofy but definitely lovable Hud *sniff* - I was SO upset when I realized what was about to happen to him..! Shocked Crying or Very sad Shocked ...

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d0nu7
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danieltx13 wrote:
I'd like to know the rationale behind Lily (seemingly) being the only one to make it out.


That's the point. Who lives and who dies in a catastrophe like this is not a choice usually, but random. Reeves has stated that the movie relates to disasters where people die randomly.

CynAnne wrote:
Teddy (perhaps captured by TIDOWave - at least that's what he says to Jaimie on the voice recorder he sent her. Watch video #8 from the "jaimielovesteddy" site).


He was captured by Tagruato, he possibly works for TIDOwave.

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tyman
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Trixx wrote:
tyman wrote:
im saying yes. remember when rob was basically crying to beth about everyone being gone


actually i'm glad you mentioned this

bcoz at the end when he is saying it killed his friends...he doesn't specifically mention lily...he points out marlena, Hud and Jason and then states "many others"

i'm sure the writers left lily out of his speech so that people could speculate as to whether she is alive or dead.


IMO...we only have rock-solid evidence that Marlena and HUD are dead. I'm not even 100% confident Jason is dead. I mean, it sure looks that way...but until I see a dead body...I wont 100% believe it

watching too much law & order will do this to you!

haha you got me on a technicality

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I posted this in another thread about Hawk and ill put it here too. Theres no way hed survive a fall from that height into the water. Hitting water from that height is the equivelant of hitting concrete from the same height. Hed be dead on contact. And anyone thats seen a certain episode of Mythbusters knows exactly what im talking about. From that height you hit the water with a force of over a hundred g's ( G force.) Between 50 -75 Gs is lethal to a human. I know in the other thread i stated the impact would be around 80 g's but i went back and looked and i was underestimating the force.
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Angstfild
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In the Matt Reeves interview (linked in a post here somewhere but search is not usable atm) he states that only 2 people are confirmed to be killed in the movie.

He makes this statement when asked about a sequel. Those 2 people of course being Marlena and Hud. Which is a shame because Hud was by far the best character in the entire movie.

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[quote][I know in the other thread i stated the impact would be around 80 g's but i went back and looked and i was underestimating the force./quote] Is that the sane "Force" thats binds the universe together? Laughing

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Trixx
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tyman wrote:

haha you got me on a technicality


hehe sorry...


Zaggs wrote:

Marlena is behind a curtain (another bite victim who has burst is being taken in on a stretcher, not body bag so could be alive)


ok...you don't see her dead behind the curtain...but I'm sure she is...the amount of blood she would've lost...the fact that it looked as though it left more than just a hole in her gut...it looked as though her whole midsection was gone (although thats not certain either)

and the guy on the stretcher...i don't think he would've survived that...I mean...come on...he had a massive hole in his stomach!!! This aint no pole through Beths shoulder stuff!

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