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[SPOILERS] [Q]is ***** dead?????
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CynAnne
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... Thankee for the correction, d0nu7 - it's been a while since I've watched Jamies earlier vidclips to Teddy, and ever since I watched her snack on the "Evidence" in #10, I've had little hope for our dim-bulb blonde (lol)! As for Marlena, I fear she's been 'bottled' by our government (just like that 'crotch cricket' we see being wheeled past Hud), and she's being 'studied' even as I type..! Shocked ...

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Zaggs wrote:
Technically speaking the only one you could be reasonably sure of being dead is Hud. He's bloodied and not moving when Rob picks up the camera. The rest you can assume are dead (save lilly) but cannot be 100% sure. Jason falls from the bridge, Marlena is behind a curtain (another bite victim who has burst is being taken in on a stretcher, not body bag so could be alive), Lilly's helicopter takes off (though I cannot say the object thrown is a hummer it comes from the right, not from above as the helo would) and Rob and Beth are not seen after the first explosion.
Though the opening states that the government finds the camera, meaning most likely not turned over, that could just mean Rob and Beth being unconscious when they are found and cannot tell them about the camera.



woah woah. as much as i WOULD love for marlena to be alive, she is def. dead. the internal bleeding- she wont be able to survive that easily. she was bleeding and vomiting blood alot.
showing her behind the curtain was for the impact of the blood spurt.

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im saying yes. remember when rob was basically crying to beth about everyone being gone


actually i'm glad you mentioned this

bcoz at the end when he is saying it killed his friends...he doesn't specifically mention lily...he points out marlena, Hud and Jason and then states "many others"

i'm sure the writers left lily out of his speech so that people could speculate as to whether she is alive or dead.


IMO...we only have rock-solid evidence that Marlena and HUD are dead. I'm not even 100% confident Jason is dead. I mean, it sure looks that way...but until I see a dead body...I wont 100% believe it

watching too much law & order will do this to you!


i think jason is gone , really cause in an interview with mike vogel, he was saying something abbout not knowing his character would be a victim till 5 days before acting.
and even if he didnt do that interview. i think he would not survive the fall and debris.

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6slushos wrote:
Trixx wrote:
tyman wrote:
im saying yes. remember when rob was basically crying to beth about everyone being gone


actually i'm glad you mentioned this

bcoz at the end when he is saying it killed his friends...he doesn't specifically mention lily...he points out marlena, Hud and Jason and then states "many others"

i'm sure the writers left lily out of his speech so that people could speculate as to whether she is alive or dead.


IMO...we only have rock-solid evidence that Marlena and HUD are dead. I'm not even 100% confident Jason is dead. I mean, it sure looks that way...but until I see a dead body...I wont 100% believe it

watching too much law & order will do this to you!


i think jason is gone , really cause in an interview with mike vogel, he was saying something abbout not knowing his character would be a victim till 5 days before acting.
and even if he didnt do that interview. i think he would not survive the fall and debris.


yeah i agree that it is highly unlikely

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 		I'm kinda surprised I was as attached to the characters as I was when they were getting killed off. Even Hawk, who was in the movie for like a combined 10 minutes. I think the fact that I'm their general age group and they resemble a lot of my friends may help with that though.

One of the only dissapointments I had with the movie was that a few people seemed to have godmode on for a good part of it. Beth laying down impaled for hours, then being pulled out of that and making it down 40+ flights of stairs and into a helicopter was ridiculous... but surviving a helicopter crash on top of that was a little too much.

Although I kinda hope they're alive, I'd be really dissapointed if they were. They includes Beth, Rob and Hawk.

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6slushos wrote:
Zaggs wrote:
Technically speaking the only one you could be reasonably sure of being dead is Hud. He's bloodied and not moving when Rob picks up the camera. The rest you can assume are dead (save lilly) but cannot be 100% sure. Jason falls from the bridge, Marlena is behind a curtain (another bite victim who has burst is being taken in on a stretcher, not body bag so could be alive), Lilly's helicopter takes off (though I cannot say the object thrown is a hummer it comes from the right, not from above as the helo would) and Rob and Beth are not seen after the first explosion.
Though the opening states that the government finds the camera, meaning most likely not turned over, that could just mean Rob and Beth being unconscious when they are found and cannot tell them about the camera.



woah woah. as much as i WOULD love for marlena to be alive, she is def. dead. the internal bleeding- she wont be able to survive that easily. she was bleeding and vomiting blood alot.
showing her behind the curtain was for the impact of the blood spurt.


As I said you can assume Marlena is dead, but cannot be 100%. You never see her "dead". Before the burst there is no internal bleeding, or does the blood from the eye socket count as internal? What if the burst is just some sort of blister and doesn't involve major any actual organs? You could possibly survive that. But yes I would not wager money on her being alive. The only one I put money on is Lilly.

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Zaggs wrote:
6slushos wrote:
Zaggs wrote:
Technically speaking the only one you could be reasonably sure of being dead is Hud. He's bloodied and not moving when Rob picks up the camera. The rest you can assume are dead (save lilly) but cannot be 100% sure. Jason falls from the bridge, Marlena is behind a curtain (another bite victim who has burst is being taken in on a stretcher, not body bag so could be alive), Lilly's helicopter takes off (though I cannot say the object thrown is a hummer it comes from the right, not from above as the helo would) and Rob and Beth are not seen after the first explosion.
Though the opening states that the government finds the camera, meaning most likely not turned over, that could just mean Rob and Beth being unconscious when they are found and cannot tell them about the camera.



woah woah. as much as i WOULD love for marlena to be alive, she is def. dead. the internal bleeding- she wont be able to survive that easily. she was bleeding and vomiting blood alot.
showing her behind the curtain was for the impact of the blood spurt.


As I said you can assume Marlena is dead, but cannot be 100%. You never see her "dead". Before the burst there is no internal bleeding, or does the blood from the eye socket count as internal? What if the burst is just some sort of blister and doesn't involve major any actual organs? You could possibly survive that. But yes I would not wager money on her being alive. The only one I put money on is Lilly.



yes, eyes nose and mouth. internal bleeding.
she did vomit blood as she was being dragged away.
the burst of a blister would not be that much of blood. we see fully her hips and body (torso) expanding to a pretty unnatural state before the burst.

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 		the thing that gets me is that after being (supposedly) chomped on by the monster, hud is left relatively intact with only minor flesh wounds but, otherwise, dead. rob shouting his name and running over like he is in one piece and can help him....

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 		Yes, we do see Hud's face and shoulders, but I imagine that his lower section of body is separated from his upper section of body.

I think old MGP bit poor Hud in half... Sad



On an earlier topic, though, the ability for the group to live through some serious bodily damage is interesting.
If you'll recall, just before Hud gets chomped, Rob is screaming in pain and they're dragging him along the grass as he's acting pretty jacked up from the helicopter crash. Then after Hud gets chomped, Rob and Beth are scrambling/running across the grass to the bridge thing.

Admittedly, I imagine I would be able to "get over" the pain of my injuries pretty quickly if MGP was looming over my head, it does stretch the believability factor a bit (inasmuch as a monster in Manhattan is believable...)

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 		see that's what gets me, if he WAS bitten in half would you even run over to him and call his name so often (like trying to get him to come around) or would you just look in horror, call his name if in rememberance and move along (i think i would do the latter preventing me from the same fate)

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 		The only confirmed deaths are Marlena and Hud. It's that simple.

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stugots wrote:
see that's what gets me, if he WAS bitten in half would you even run over to him and call his name so often (like trying to get him to come around) or would you just look in horror, call his name if in rememberance and move along (i think i would do the latter preventing me from the same fate)


Out of pure SHOCK and Desparation and total exhaustion...yes I believe it's very plausible that they ran to the torso of Hud expecting him to be alive still.

Trauma at it's finest.

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Zaggs wrote:

As I said you can assume Marlena is dead, but cannot be 100%. You never see her "dead". Before the burst there is no internal bleeding, or does the blood from the eye socket count as internal? What if the burst is just some sort of blister and doesn't involve major any actual organs? You could possibly survive that. But yes I would not wager money on her being alive. The only one I put money on is Lilly.


Rolling Eyes

God are you kidding me? Ok, let me get this straight...

So after a human expands to twice their normal size, and loses a guaranteed 1/2 of the blood amount, let alone have your mid section totally blown apart, you believe you would still be able to survive?

What color is the sky in your world Zaggs?

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the thing that gets me is that after being (supposedly) chomped on by the monster, hud is left relatively intact with only minor flesh wounds but, otherwise, dead. rob shouting his name and running over like he is in one piece and can help him....


ppl do wierd things in shock. Jackie O tried shoving JFK's brain back in his head and was calling for him to wake up. It is not hard to fathom that there would be momentary disbelief of death.

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 		Hud is dead. IF the monster chomping on him didnt do it then the subsequent bombing did.

Out of all of the characters I wish would have possibly survived he is the one I would have picked. Alas, it is not so. There is no way he survived a bite from the monster AND Hammerdown.

As I stated before, Reeves stated in an interview that only 2 people can actually be confirmed dead. Marlena and Hud. Read the interview people.

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