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Tsakara
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[TROUT]What? Why is fox so stupid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ovbOCBqg0
I fail to see any connection between 9/11 and a monster movie. New York gets pwnt because it always gets pwnt.
edit to add tag and link to active thread ~rose
click link to active thread here
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:06 pm
cecil_and_kain
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Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 18
For every smart person, there are three stupid ones. It's about a monster.
Not terrorists.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:13 pm
OliMango
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Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 1189 Location: Vegas
I'd trout you, but I don't feel like doing what you should have done in the first place: Search.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:13 pm
guerra001
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Re: What? Why is fox so stupid?
Yeah and the monster didnt even destory any cool buildings...i was so ready for a times square destruction or something remotely reconizable, besides the SoL...there too damn sensitive, and they always will be
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:14 pm
Headman
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tsakara wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ovbOCBqg0
I fail to see any connection between 9/11 and a monster movie. New York gets pwnt because it always gets pwnt.
OliMango wrote:
I'd trout you, but I don't feel like doing what you should have done in the first place: Search.
Please, allow me my friend
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23608
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:15 pm
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cecil_and_kain
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Re: What? Why is fox so stupid?
guerra001 wrote:
Yeah and the monster didnt even destory any cool buildings...i was so ready for a times square destruction or something remotely reconizable, besides the SoL...there too damn sensitive, and they always will be
I think like King Kongs Empire state building. The statue of liberty is now MGPs. You cant have too many familiar sights or it starts to feel unrealistic.
New York is a BIG city.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:17 pm
overfiction
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Re: What? Why is fox so stupid?
Agreed
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:17 pm
guerra001
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Re: What? Why is fox so stupid?
cecil_and_kain wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
Yeah and the monster didnt even destory any cool buildings...i was so ready for a times square destruction or something remotely reconizable, besides the SoL...there too damn sensitive, and they always will be
I think like King Kongs Empire state building. The statue of liberty is now MGPs. You cant have too many familiar sights or it starts to feel unrealistic.
New York is a BIG city.
yeah i guess thats true, i guess ppl like fox news woulda cried even more if MGP had really started to destory shit
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:18 pm
cecil_and_kain
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Re: What? Why is fox so stupid?
guerra001 wrote:
cecil_and_kain wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
Yeah and the monster didnt even destory any cool buildings...i was so ready for a times square destruction or something remotely reconizable, besides the SoL...there too damn sensitive, and they always will be
I think like King Kongs Empire state building. The statue of liberty is now MGPs. You cant have too many familiar sights or it starts to feel unrealistic.
New York is a BIG city.
yeah i guess thats true, i guess ppl like fox news woulda cried even more if MGP had really started to destory shit
It would be really cruel to ressurect the twin towers so Clover could destroy them. Yet....
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:21 pm
Roe
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(not sure what thread to post in)
I recommend reading the Official Production notes for the movie.
The movie is indeed based off and tied into the tragedy that is 9/11, and other events. The director/producers say, however, they don't try to exploit it and are sensitive to it.
The production notes spend a good amount of space talking about it.
Quote:
While the filmmakers wanted to create as much of that excitement and realism as possible for the audience's enjoyment, they were also extremely conscientious about the implications of these sequences. "In a lot of ways," says Reeves, "the monster is kind of a metaphor for our times and the kind of terror we all face. So it was important to find a way to approach those feelings without diminishing or exploiting them, and to do so in a way that wouldn't be disrespectful."
The film carefully avoids crossing the line from realistic scares to all-too-painful reminders of recent events – through a unique point-of-view experience, humor, and Reeves' reconnection of the audience with the characters throughout the film. The visual effects teams even took care that the collapsing buildings in the film were older-looking structures that did not evoke the style of the structures that were attacked six years earlier.
Stirring up uncomfortable feelings is not entirely without purpose for a monster movie, Abrams notes. It's a standard of the genre. "'Godzilla' came out in 1954 in the shadow of the bomb being dropped in Japan. Culturally, you had people living with this terror they had experienced – but in the guise of something absurd and preposterous. My guess is that it enabled people in Japan to have a catharsis."
"To me, that's one of the most potentially impactful aspects of this movie," he continues. "It takes so many images that are so familiar, that are potentially horrifyingly scary, and puts them in a context that is ludicrous and laughable, so that people can experience catharsis in a way that doesn't feel like they're going through therapy. People have a hunger to experience that, and to process the terror we all live with in a way that doesn't feel like you're getting a social studies lesson. And at the end of the day, whether or not that's something they're aware of, this movie allows them to have that release. And for younger kids," he says, "you just have one heck of a great monster movie."
link: http://www.jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=190
edit: added the last paragraph to the quote, I copied wrong the first time. There is more to the reading, this piece just seemed most relevant.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:34 pm
guerra001
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Roe wrote:
(not sure what thread to post in)
I recommend reading the Official Production notes for the movie.
The movie is indeed based off and tied into the tragedy that is 9/11, and other events. The director/producers say, however, they don't try to exploit it and are sensitive to it.
The production notes spend a good amount of space talking about it.
Quote:
While the filmmakers wanted to create as much of that excitement and realism as possible for the audience's enjoyment, they were also extremely conscientious about the implications of these sequences. "In a lot of ways," says Reeves, "the monster is kind of a metaphor for our times and the kind of terror we all face. So it was important to find a way to approach those feelings without diminishing or exploiting them, and to do so in a way that wouldn't be disrespectful."
The film carefully avoids crossing the line from realistic scares to all-too-painful reminders of recent events – through a unique point-of-view experience, humor, and Reeves' reconnection of the audience with the characters throughout the film. The visual effects teams even took care that the collapsing buildings in the film were older-looking structures that did not evoke the style of the structures that were attacked six years earlier.
Stirring up uncomfortable feelings is not entirely without purpose for a monster movie, Abrams notes. It's a standard of the genre. "'Godzilla' came out in 1954 in the shadow of the bomb being dropped in Japan. Culturally, you had people living with this terror they had experienced – but in the guise of something absurd and preposterous. My guess is that it enabled people in Japan to have a catharsis."
link: http://www.jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=190
Oh i dont disagree that they did it on purpose, any publicity is good publicity right? I just dont like that they get all offended and cry about it...
Its a movie dude get over it, its not real.
If your gonna cry about this then why not the world trade center movie that came out not long after? Thats alot more "damaging" and reminds people alot more than a giant monster
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:37 pm
OliMango
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Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:38 pm
guerra001
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OliMango wrote:
Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.
dont feel like sifting through arrogance, wanted ppl to kno easier...settle down
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:39 pm
OliMango
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guerra001 wrote:
OliMango wrote:
Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.
dont feel like sifting through arrogance, wanted ppl to kno easier...settle down
Most people at this thread have already talked about how stupid Fox is. We don't need another thread talking about how stupid they are, no matter how right it seems.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:40 pm
guerra001
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OliMango wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
OliMango wrote:
Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.
dont feel like sifting through arrogance, wanted ppl to kno easier...settle down
Most people at this thread have already talked about how stupid Fox is. We don't need another thread talking about how stupid they are, no matter how right it seems.
Hey fox is stupid enough to deserve 2!
but yeah sorry...
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:41 pm
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