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Headman
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guerra001 wrote:
OliMango wrote:
Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.


dont feel like sifting through arrogance, wanted ppl to kno easier...settle down


Then sift through this: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23608

And post your comments there. Our friend Oli is just getting frustrated as are many of us who have already discussed all this. No need to duplicate the process. If people want to help then by all means please help. Just don't be lazy. Read the existing threads and see if you all can add more to it. We are not asking too much. Smile

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Headman wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
OliMango wrote:
Holy crap guys. When someone trouts the thread, (he even posted a damn link) you go to the thread that already talks about this, and talk about it.


dont feel like sifting through arrogance, wanted ppl to kno easier...settle down


Then sift through this: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23608

And post your comments there. Our friend Oli is just getting frustrated as are many of us who have already discussed all this. No need to duplicate the process. If people want to help then by all means please help. Just don't be lazy. Read the existing threads and see if you all can add more to it. We are not asking too much. Smile



Oh i know trust me i get frustrated too so i undertsand where its comming from i just knew that page had a whole bunch of people already but whatever hopefull this thread will fall into the recesses of the forum

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Roe
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guerra001 wrote:
Roe wrote:
(not sure what thread to post in)

I recommend reading the Official Production notes for the movie.

The movie is indeed based off and tied into the tragedy that is 9/11, and other events. The director/producers say, however, they don't try to exploit it and are sensitive to it.

The production notes spend a good amount of space talking about it.

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While the filmmakers wanted to create as much of that excitement and realism as possible for the audience's enjoyment, they were also extremely conscientious about the implications of these sequences. "In a lot of ways," says Reeves, "the monster is kind of a metaphor for our times and the kind of terror we all face. So it was important to find a way to approach those feelings without diminishing or exploiting them, and to do so in a way that wouldn't be disrespectful."

The film carefully avoids crossing the line from realistic scares to all-too-painful reminders of recent events – through a unique point-of-view experience, humor, and Reeves' reconnection of the audience with the characters throughout the film. The visual effects teams even took care that the collapsing buildings in the film were older-looking structures that did not evoke the style of the structures that were attacked six years earlier.

Stirring up uncomfortable feelings is not entirely without purpose for a monster movie, Abrams notes. It's a standard of the genre. "'Godzilla' came out in 1954 in the shadow of the bomb being dropped in Japan. Culturally, you had people living with this terror they had experienced – but in the guise of something absurd and preposterous. My guess is that it enabled people in Japan to have a catharsis."


link: http://www.jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=190



Oh i dont disagree that they did it on purpose, any publicity is good publicity right? I just dont like that they get all offended and cry about it...

Its a movie dude get over it, its not real.

If your gonna cry about this then why not the world trade center movie that came out not long after? Thats alot more "damaging" and reminds people alot more than a giant monster


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Roe wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
Roe wrote:
(not sure what thread to post in)

I recommend reading the Official Production notes for the movie.

The movie is indeed based off and tied into the tragedy that is 9/11, and other events. The director/producers say, however, they don't try to exploit it and are sensitive to it.

The production notes spend a good amount of space talking about it.

Quote:

While the filmmakers wanted to create as much of that excitement and realism as possible for the audience's enjoyment, they were also extremely conscientious about the implications of these sequences. "In a lot of ways," says Reeves, "the monster is kind of a metaphor for our times and the kind of terror we all face. So it was important to find a way to approach those feelings without diminishing or exploiting them, and to do so in a way that wouldn't be disrespectful."

The film carefully avoids crossing the line from realistic scares to all-too-painful reminders of recent events – through a unique point-of-view experience, humor, and Reeves' reconnection of the audience with the characters throughout the film. The visual effects teams even took care that the collapsing buildings in the film were older-looking structures that did not evoke the style of the structures that were attacked six years earlier.

Stirring up uncomfortable feelings is not entirely without purpose for a monster movie, Abrams notes. It's a standard of the genre. "'Godzilla' came out in 1954 in the shadow of the bomb being dropped in Japan. Culturally, you had people living with this terror they had experienced – but in the guise of something absurd and preposterous. My guess is that it enabled people in Japan to have a catharsis."


link: http://www.jjabrams.net/showthread.php?t=190



Oh i dont disagree that they did it on purpose, any publicity is good publicity right? I just dont like that they get all offended and cry about it...

Its a movie dude get over it, its not real.

If your gonna cry about this then why not the world trade center movie that came out not long after? Thats alot more "damaging" and reminds people alot more than a giant monster


Please relax.

I said nothing on my opinions on the matter. I didn't cry or rant, not by a long shot.

I do, however, try to be objective.

The production notes offer a lot of insight into this matter in a way I personally hadn't considered, and I found them both interesting and relevant to this subject.

I also didn't quote or say anything out of context either. Please check your attitude; it's annoying.


Not directed at you, at the fox news people and anyone else who thinks the 9/11 thing has anymore to do with it than what the production notes say

sorry if i kinda offended you

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 		What I don't like is that they got the one woman that had someone die in the attacks that would say "Movies that have New York destroyed have to be movies about 9/11" and that "You can't have New York be destroyed unless you are directing hate against Al Quaeda or any other terrorist group." I guess a good ol' monster movie is "evil" and "Un-American" now.

If that's Un-American, I'm on the first boat out of here before the national implosion.

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MulletMan wrote:
What I don't like is that they got the one woman that had someone die in the attacks that would say "Movies that have New York destroyed have to be movies about 9/11" and that "You can't have New York be destroyed unless you are directing hate against Al Quaeda or any other terrorist group." I guess a good ol' monster movie is "evil" and "Un-American" now.

If that's Un-American, I'm on the first boat out of here before the national implosion.


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 		Guys, please continue this discussion in the existing thread. You've been asked very nicely a couple of times now to do so. Thanks.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23608
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