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Icculus
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 		[SPEC] Comatas
My first post here, sorry if it's formatted wrong, please correct me if so.

Anyways, with not much else to talk about right now, I was starting to question the Comatas page, it seems a bit off. It's the only page that we can't copy and paste from, and it's one of very few images that I haven't seen embedded text in. Here's a copy of all the text formatted as closely as I can to the website:

The Nine Muses---Urania, Erato, Terpsichore, and the rest---met to sing
and dance on the slopes of Mount Olympus, surrounded by the honey bees
which attended them. One day, a goat-herd named Comatas glimpsed
them dancing, and caught up in a wave of awe, sacrificed one of his goats
in their honor. When his master discovered what he had done, he ordered
that the boy be sealed into a chest to die. The Muses took pity on Comatas,
and sent their bees to carry honey to him through a crack in the chest.
When the chest was finally opened, he emerged in perfect health.

A quick search on Google only displayed one other match for Comatas, it's an altered version of what's above and can be found at:
http://www.musesrealm.net/stories/comatas.html

My question mainly arises in the fact that most Greek myths are all over the web, why is this only on one website? Why do they bother mentioning three of the muses, and not the others? Why is this a picture that we can't copy&paste from?
Someone with more time/computer knowledge than me should investigate.

-Joey #42-

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:52 pm
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Max Damage
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 		It's a story (to a degree) about bees - they're what save the say. That's why it's on a site called 'I love bees'.

Occams razor.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:57 pm
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Icculus
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 		[SPEC] Comatas continued
Mokita found this version of the fable, a few very minor differences, similar to the recipes.

In Greek mythology honey bees were the responsibility of the 9 Muses, females who were the divine aspect of music, the arts and rational debate. The Muses would meet and dance on the slopes of the divine mountain. A goat-herd named Comatas glimpsed them dancing and, overcome with awe, sacrificed a kid goat to them. When the owner of the goat herd discovered his loss he ordered that Comatas be sealed into a chest to die. The Muses took pity on his plight and sent their servants the honey bees to carry honey to him through a chink in the chest. When the chest was eventually re-opened Comatas emerged in perfect health.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/agriculture/entomology/beekeeping/general/bees_history/bee_fables.html

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Roc
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 		And yet an innocent bystander, who offends his masters by honoring the Muses is locked in a chest (a coffin) to die. The muses send bees to feed him honey through a crack in the chest, and he emerges fully healthy.
Quote:

Question:

fed her with?

Answers:

honey
honey
honey
honey
a nice bit of alliteration
cakes of sand
the best trout


Now, I don't know if this is referring to the SPDR nursing the Queen back to health, or the Pious Flea nursing the Princess back to health.
But it does seem related beyond just coincidentally having to do with bees.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:12 pm
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aliendial
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Search is your friend. We really hope new folks will search the forums to see if this is already being discussed, or in some cases, has already been discussed to death, before starting a new thread.

Look here for the same basic info on Comatas:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=43578&highlight=muses#43578

What we really need is something definitive to do with it. Otherwise the whole thing ends up being trout.. Crying or Very sad
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Vesuvius
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 		Re: [SPEC] Comatas continued
Icculus wrote:
Mokita found this version of the fable, a few very minor differences, similar to the recipes.

In Greek mythology honey bees were the responsibility of the 9 Muses, females who were the divine aspect of music, the arts and rational debate. The Muses would meet and dance on the slopes of the divine mountain. A goat-herd named Comatas glimpsed them dancing and, overcome with awe, sacrificed a kid goat to them. When the owner of the goat herd discovered his loss he ordered that Comatas be sealed into a chest to die. The Muses took pity on his plight and sent their servants the honey bees to carry honey to him through a chink in the chest. When the chest was eventually re-opened Comatas emerged in perfect health.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/agriculture/entomology/beekeeping/general/bees_history/bee_fables.html


the differences are mainly in places where specific names were added for the I love bees version. Those names are all capitalized. Given the choice to add the names of a few- but not all- of the muses, and to add Mount Olympus and others... I don't think we should entirely rule out that there may be a significance to the text.. maybe a message involving the capitalized letters or if that's too simple, possible some other code that needed extra letters added in order to format the text correctly to hide the message.

And yeah- I also was thinking that comatas (along with farnsworth) were two possible bystanders on the site

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TheDude
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 		I know people have used lots of other text to try to figure out the steg password, anyone tried using any of the stuff in this story? Or even taking the capital letters and making it a word that might be a password....

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krystyn
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aliendial wrote:

What we really need is something definitive to do with it. Otherwise the whole thing ends up being trout.. Crying or Very sad



... the best trout

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TheDude
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 		If you refresh it enough you DO get a messed up picture.... Some parts are missing I'm gonna mess around with it a little. Like try filling the white spaces with black to see if there's any hidden words in it... It's on the wiki too.... doesn't seem innocent to me

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koikoi
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 		TheDude: Your image looks like a standard corrupted image with the message "Searching with / her lantern in" which is a subset of the hidden text in muses.gif. What is your reference to the wiki?

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