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[SCC] EniTech - the Gardner Project
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thebruce
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jlr1001 wrote:
Is this an in-game or oog statement? IG, meaning that if we send them a fake snapshot they'll know we're not being on the level with them?

Or OG, meaning that the PMs know this bank isn't around but if we provide a photo of "the deposit box number" in question they'll act as though the bank still exists?

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I'm assuming that they wouldn't accept us emailing MrToasty's, or anyone's, screen capture from the episode, or an obviously photoshopped image.


Your latter paragraph is what I mean effectively. First, OOG, the PMs would obviously know this is not a real photograph. Also, if the building and/or vault does not exist, they'll know it's not a real photograph. Second, IG, depending on what the intended result of this photo task is (assuming it's legit) - their knowldege of it not being a real photo may be handled differently. If the vault does exist and he's to get a photo of it with nothing else scheduled to happen, then it doesn't really matter that it's not a real photo. If the vault doesn't exist, or there's something else that's supposed to happen when he goes to get the picture, then the PMs plans are shot, and likely IG they will call out the image as fake.

1) The PMs will know it's fake.
2) What they do with that knowledge IG depends on what their plan is for this task.

Generally speaking, if a player gets a task, we don't try to 'fake' the results unless it's effectively impossible for someone to do (and no one else wants to take up the task).

But hey, there's no harm in trying, eh? We could still send them the clip and find out what they do.

Ight, enough meta-talk now Wink
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 		I'm heading down to take a picture at the bank today. I'll send in the pic tonight, since I don't have a card reader for this particular card at work.

Wish me luck, as I was hearing strange noises outside my house late last night. Wink
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vpisteve wrote:
I'm heading down to take a picture at the bank today. I'll send in the pic tonight, since I don't have a card reader for this particular card at work.

Wish me luck, as I was hearing strange noises outside my house late last night. Wink


Good luck Steve!! Smile I am anxious to hear the outcome. Thanks for going so quick and progressing the game for the rest of us.

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Rogi Ocnorb
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 		I'm still of the opinion that this request is a jack.
I suggested using a clip as a joke more than anything.
Hell. We could send them this, even.

I'm curious, though, which location? The main branch, downtown, was built in 1906 and I can't imagine the TechCon engineer being able to do much with it in 1963.

In the '60s, they had branches all over LA county. but I doubt many of those (while they look more like the one in the series) could survive a 50 megaton blast.

Examples:
http://downtownnoho.blogspot.com/2007/08/two-of-them-noho-and-highland-park-old.html


I'm just really sad vpisteve didn't get "instructions" with his cache.
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 		FWIW, I did my own authentication/verification thing with my "contact," asking questions about the container etc. that wouldn't have been readily apparent in the photos.

They're legit.
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Rogi Ocnorb
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vpisteve wrote:
FWIW, I did my own authentication/verification thing with my "contact," asking questions about the container etc. that wouldn't have been readily apparent in the photos.

They're legit.


I'd say that's worth quite a bit.
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 		or if they won't allow you to take a picture of the box number steve, just take a couple of pics in that area

wishing you luck!

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Rogi Ocnorb
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 		I called the people that manage the building.
"Lofts at the Security Building"

Good news: The vault is still there.

Bad news: Due to liability and other issues, only employees can go into it.

They said that the film industry asks about using it as a location quite often, but they hadn't (to her knowledge) ever let them film there.
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thebruce
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 		Could someone post an explanation of how we know the exact building that's needed? I've seen a few comments speccing on which bank it is, since the name "Security Trust of Los Angeles" itself doesn't exist...

What location is Steve actually going to? Are we certain this is the location that's required?
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Rogi Ocnorb
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 		There's no certainty about anything.

But, due to it's former glory, (and assuming the mention by EniTech would be equivalent to saying "The Met" in New York), this would seem the best choice.

Of the other branch locations I'm aware of, North Hollywood would be the closest. Followed by Burbank and then Glendale.
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jlr1001
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Rogi Ocnorb wrote:
Due to liability and other issues, only employees can go into it.


Well, with our NY camera pickup--even though the package might have been picked up by a character--we were given the name of an employee to contact...

I guess it's possible that we need to simply ask an employee of the building to take the picture for us.... (Wild speculation, since we haven't been given a name for this supposed person... but who knows...?)

Also, it just occurred to me that with finding the 1 (2?) camera(s) I haven't seen anyone posting about the other two cards... I haven't been in the chatroom lately, so maybe everyone is actively working on it there... but I hope the silence here doesn't mean we've put the two other cards aside for the moment...



-jlr1001

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thebruce
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 		Do you think it's possible, since this building is essentially fictional (as it appears in the show at least), that Steve contact should rather be informed that he 'can't find' the bank, that perhaps it was 'torn down or destroyed'? (assuming of course, he doesn't actually find the bank =P)
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 		Consider Occam's razor. "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." Let's look at the facts here.

1) The name of the bank is the same seen in the show. Why would it be some other bank with a similar name?
2) The name of the box specified is the same as seen in the show. It is also protected from a nuclear strike, as this resistance member specified.
3) The people in the show needed to use force in order to enter the bank vault. Personally, I'd rather not read of anyone being arrested for trying to illegally rob a bank. Now that it's simply a freeway, it is far more accessible. Not only that, but given information from the show it is possible to locate exactly where the vault once was.

The only problem is that the resistance member still assumes the bank exists, which we can assume is simply due to the fact that he, IG, has outdated information. He would presume the vault would not be destroyed due to any nuclear attack, but he wouldn't have guessed it would have been torn down or used prematurely.

My best guess is that if you watch the TV show again, you can determine the same location where the time travel device was, and therefore where the bank vault was, and where you should take the photograph.

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 		Guys, seriously
I posted once before here saying that I was going to intercept the package in NYC. Unfortunately, I was informed that "Bill" picked up the package an hour before me. Here's why I believe this is false:

The clerk at the store told me that Bill picked up the package, but the only information available regarding Bill is from an extremely fake facebook page. I was told Bill picked up the package, but the facebook page states that Bill delivered the package. Furthermore, according to the facebook account Bill delivered the package to a total stranger who is totally unconnected and unaware of the ARG. This to me screams that this was a fake story, and in all likelyhood the package simply never existed. Additionally, the story of the person who claims to have gotten the package from Bill is ridiculously fake.

As for the bank vault, you guys must be out of your minds. Do you honestly think that they want you to take a picture of the inside of a bank vault, a feat that is almost guaranteed to be impossible, a feat that could easily lead to arrest? Given that there's no waiver you have to sign to participate in the ARG it's feasible that the people behind it could be held legally responsible, and if this ARG is being "hosted" by the Terminator producers do you really think they'd ask people to do something that could lead to serious legal ramifications?

There is no way in hell, no way you're actually supposed to take the photo of an inside of the bank vault. My guess, and it is a guess, is that what's supposed to be photographed is the site of where the bank in the show used to be.

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 		Another note on the suspicious nature of the NYC package: I did a little research on this Zoltan Gerts person. He works for a company named 24/7 Real Media, which is in the business of digital marketing. Awfully coincidental, isn't that?

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