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Sneaky Sneaky

[konamouse]

What is the context? Can you please edit -in the original email you sent to Peter?

[Obtusitivity]

We've needed one of these for a while tran --

as far as the OOG warning, i guess we'll see -- when emotions run high, and things become crucial -- people tend to cross over a touch more than you'd expect.

There are some sneaky bits that need to be aired out i think -- and soon.

[Transtar]

Yeah, I have to catch myself a few times (still new to this stuff), but I like to see the whole "web" of the story. The only other big arg I read up on/participated in was Deus City and that had so much player backstabbing/1on1 character interaction it was hard to see the whole picture when the game was through. While it looks like that isn't a problem here, I can see it playing a much bigger role in the future.

[celina63]

I for one do not plan on participating in any "player backstabbing" and in fact will cease participation should this game or it's players stoop to that kind of behavior :p

I guess I'm more of a "team player" and prefer cooperative play...

[Transtar]

Well DC was kinda trippy in that it was a PvP ARG, backstabbing and espionage were...expected (encouraged in some cases) between the 2 factions. My point was more along the lines of since there was so much going on in the shadows it was hard to get the story straight.

But I digress, the reason for this, like I said is to see the full "web" of the overall story and to also see how the PMs handle these kinds of player interactions.

[celina63]

I *do* find it amusing that Peter says he and Devon have never met

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[celina63]

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[celina63]

[WolfHawk]

I was also involved with Deus City from the beginning. The PMs in that ARG initially createcd a rift between players by sorting us into two distinct groups.

To be fair, some of the "backstabbing" and additional "secret groups" evolved during extended periods of no action when we were trying to get ANYTHING to happen. It was later explained by the PMs that they had spread themselves too thin and had lost several of their members. I don't forsee that as a problem here.

[Obtusitivity]

anyway -- essentially all i was trying to get across was that everyone should feel free to play how they want to, and explore the fiction however they want to -- ultimately, the PM's are going to allow what they feel is best for their purposes.

if you're contacting a character and are not necessarily gaining any ground, and someone else comes at them from a different angle -- or even straight-up says "listen, these guys are a-holes, talk to me" -- and the character responds positively to that -- that's a good thing man -- progress is made, the story rolls on.

It might ruffle the feathers of the person who had his the roadblock -- but really -- are they upset because the other person's approach was contradictory to theirs -- or because their own approach failed in that scenario? I think it's the latter. And since there doesn't appear to a treasure chest or over-sized check waiting at the end of this, i really don't see the big deal.

<shrug>

then again, i'm the resident loud and obnoxious pain in the ass around here.., so what do i know..

[Transtar]

Wolfhawk has DC pretty much pegged.

To bring this tread back to topic: the reply I sent to Pete from the previous e-mail was:

[Transtar]

Since I already did 1 edit, here is a link to Caroline Murphy-Himmelman (BA)'s post on schmeldrich about the differences between IG and OoG in LARPs and ARGs

http://www.schmeldritch.com/2007/11/on-the-inside-looking-in.html#more