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[SPEC] Operator = Cortana
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kalamazoo
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 		[SPEC] Operator = Cortana
I think the Operator, the Queen, is Cortana.

1) The Queen/Operator thinks of herself as female.

Quote:
hold on. hold on. Steady up. Get a grip, girl. You have to fight through this.


2) The Queen is 'made of sand', i.e., silicon, and so is her male companion:

Quote:
we're made of sand.

we're both made of sand.


3) She was on a ship, and everyone in the crew communication with her.

Quote:
The Operator.

That was my nickname. That's what the rest of the crew called me when they didn't call me ... whatever my name was.


4) That ship was a spaceship.

Quote:
Stars, I need stars. I was always a fine sailor; they said my navigation was celestial.


5) She is a survivor of a shipwreck.

Quote:
Ship.
Wreck.


The Queen / Operator is a female AI, rescued off a shipwreck, that conducted celestial navigation. The suggestion has been made that Leela is the AI in question, due to being in charge of "ship's operations". However, the UESC Marathon was never underway during the Marathon games, so we have no evidence that she ever conducted celestial navigation.

Contrariwise, we know for certain that Cortana did do celestial navigation for the Pillar of Autumn. Otherwise, Cortana's shipboard duties were very similar to Leela's.

If the Queen is Cortana, it would explain the identities of other members of our little story:

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The Sleeping Princess lay in a chamber of the dungeon in a coffin of glass where the Widow could not hear her breathing.


The coffin of glass is an old fairytale prop, but here it likely refers to a suspended animation chamber. A Halo survivor? Perhaps Dr. Halsey? (Although how she got off Reach would be a mystery, and the order of descent is wrong -- logically, Dr. Halsey should be Queen Mother in this scenario.) Or does it refer to a sleeping AI?

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Meanwhile, the Pious Flea was so small that even the Widow, with her sharp eyes, could hardly see him, and when she looked his way, he hid.


If this doesn't refer to 343 Guilty Spark, I'll eat my hat. With cocktail sauce.

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 		I was ready to disagree with you up until the Pious Flea part.... That description really DOES fit the weasley, backstabbing little AI, doesn't it?

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 		The "Sleeping Princess" is either reffering to Linda (if we're going off the Halo Books, fits in with the princess bit) or the Master Chief (if we're just going off the game, this also seems a bit more likely)

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 		And to stay in the Halo 2 environment, the E3 trailers were showing a level called Zanzibar, which was a huge beach on which some part of the story would happen... the map was shown multiplayer (not single-player/storyline) so nobody has a clear idea of what's going on there.
But all this talk of might-be-Cortana and the shipwreck, "head full of sand" and everything, I'm beginning to think that she's fallen onto the planet at the Zanzibar beach and is trying to recover from the losses...

This is pure speculation though,.. I haven't read the Halo books and only played through the first. Got the idea from the http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=7255&page=2&pp=50

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Max Damage wrote:
I was ready to disagree with you up until the Pious Flea part.... That description really DOES fit the weasley, backstabbing little AI, doesn't it?


(noob post Smile )That's what I've been thinking. All of the mayday text could be it's narrative. ( http://bees.netninja.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mayday_Text )

http://halosm.bungie.org/story/343.html wrote:

On the last level, 343 GS is reading the information on the Pillar of Autumn. ... At the very end of the credits, it shows 343 GS floating away into space. On the ship he might have stumbled across the location of Earth. If he did, he might go to Earth or maybe even "sell" the location to the Covenant.


I also remember from that ending sequence that the strange sound that can be heard in the background of bees1.wav is similar to the sound effect playing while 343 GS is floating away.

This might have alrady been discussed, but I thought I should get it out there.

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 		I was just playing through the beginning of Halo yesterday and I noticed something that would fit in with all of this. As the Pillar of Autumn is crashing, before Master Chief and Cortana escape, Cortana mentions to Captain Keyes that her subroutines should mantain the control of the ship... Is it possible that not all of Cortana was removed from the vessel? The explosion would have propelled what remained of the ship through space, surrounded by the sand it landed in and unable to establish which way was up...

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themill wrote:
Is it possible that not all of Cortana was removed from the vessel? The explosion would have propelled what remained of the ship through space, surrounded by the sand it landed in and unable to establish which way was up...


Uhhh, remember how it was the ship's fusion reactors that blew up with such force that it destroyed the entire ring? Sorry, I can't believe there's anything left of the ship.

However, I'm DEFINITELY in agreement with others here that the Pious Flea is 343 Guilty Spark. It just has to be. I had that thought the very instant I first saw the name. If Pious Flea were to end up representing anything OTHER than 343 Guilty Spark, I'd have to conclude that morons were making this game. (And I don't think that's the case.)

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 		The Operator can not be Cortana because Cortana was never on an ONI vessel and more important it is stated that this AI is not unique. Cortana was unique in that she is the only known AI that is a copy of an actual human being. The smartest of the smart AIs

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MrBeanTroll wrote:
The Operator can not be Cortana because Cortana was never on an ONI vessel and more important it is stated that this AI is not unique. Cortana was unique in that she is the only known AI that is a copy of an actual human being. The smartest of the smart AIs


If this thread's theory is true, then this AI could be a copy of Cortana, which wouldn't make it unique, would it?
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MrBeanTroll wrote:
The Operator can not be Cortana because Cortana was never on an ONI vessel and more important it is stated that this AI is not unique. Cortana was unique in that she is the only known AI that is a copy of an actual human being. The smartest of the smart AIs


And which cortana are you talking about?
Cortana can copy herself, the Covenent fleet is on your door step. If you need AI's quick, the errors made from the copying process my be worth getting those AI's.
As such, this would make Cortana less unique.
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Lysit wrote:

MrBeanTroll wrote:
The Operator can not be Cortana because Cortana was never on an ONI vessel and more important it is stated that this AI is not unique. Cortana was unique in that she is the only known AI that is a copy of an actual human being. The smartest of the smart AIs

And which cortana are you talking about?
Cortana can copy herself, the Covenent fleet is on your door step. If you need AI's quick, the errors made from the copying process my be worth getting those AI's.
As such, this would make Cortana less unique.


If it was Cortana, why would it refer to herself as Melissa or Queen? She could possibly share some code at the base level, but I highly doubt that it is Cortana. As for the Guilty Spark 343 being the Pious Flea.

From my understanding, Guilty Spark 343 was a bit more eloquent in its speech than what the Pious Flea (or what we think it is) has shown. Secondly, Guilty Spark 343 didn't have a way off of Halo when it exploded. It had the ability to tap into the teleportation system on Halo, but that's about the extent of its abilities.
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 		Well for starters, each time cortana copied herself, the copy would have some mistakes, also its not oggd practice to have lots of things all called Cortana.

Guilty Spark was seen flying away at the end of Halo, he could have infultrated when of the covenent ships near by, as MC did.
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voipme wrote:
Secondly, Guilty Spark 343 didn't have a way off of Halo when it exploded. It had the ability to tap into the teleportation system on Halo, but that's about the extent of its abilities.


Errr, actually, after you finish Halo and watch the ring explode, the credits roll, and at the very end of the credits they made a very deliberate point of showing you 343 Guilty Spark floating through empty space, still humming annoyingly to himself. So long before any I Love Bees and "Pious Flea" stuff came up, it seemed pretty clear that they weren't finished with 343 Guilty Spark.

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 		I'll toss in a wild speculation.

Since Cortana is a survivor of Halo with John, I'm thinkin' "Glass Coffen" is John's helmet. (PoA level, Commander gives John, Cortana. John put's Cortana into helmet socket. Thus able to translate alien languages.)

I foget the exact story line of Halo (It's been a while since I beat it on Legendary) but, if I remember right, Cortana betrayed John with Guilty Sparks.

I'm thinkin' the Cortana somehow got sent back to 2004 and has baded her time to betray the human forces and wipe out the planet. (Of course this is rusty game memory and wild, WILD speculation, so you should probably disregard it.)

Intresting theory though.

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Sekoku wrote:
I foget the exact story line of Halo (It's been a while since I beat it on Legendary) but, if I remember right, Cortana betrayed John with Guilty Sparks.


Why do I not remember Cortana doing this?

It may be because I haven't played single player in a long, long time.

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