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[SPEC] CLOVER/DARWIN/MGP'S BIRTH/ORIGIN
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guerra001 wrote:
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StayPuftMarshmallowMan wrote:


Wow I get flamed for no reason. And what does questioning my sexuality have to do with a name. I have got no clue.

Thanks for the backup, Oli. Wow where have these threads gone.


who said I was 'flaming' you? I made no personal attacks against your sexuality or anything that surrounds JUST you. I'm attacking the ridiculousness that is the name "Mr. Grumpy Pants."

It could have been anyone that made the remark you did, and it wouldn't have mattered... I hold no grudge towards you personally... just than damn name.




Dude as much as anyone hates that name, we all have to bite our tongues, Because like it or not, thats the best way we all ahve to reference the monster and everyone will know what we're talking about


I'm simply calling it Clover- Not becuase I like it, but because I like it over Mr. Grumpy Pants. People know what I'm talking about and it's atleast what the people who created it called it.

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I wasn't meaning for it to be snide. Sorry if it came across that way.

If you had left out the whole, "Question your sexuality for calling something this." I would have been fine with your post.


I was aiming for a 'sarcastic humor' w/ that... I know people are that fickle to have issues w/ their sexuality over something like that.


Sexuality is such a broad issue now a days. It's better just to leave it out of all arguments.
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The shark in Jaws is simply known as Jaws.



The shark in Jaws was known as Bruce.

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 		Let me end this argument for everyone.

MGP is the best name right now for it. i dont like the name either but it is the best. Why/

Darwin. How can a monster seriously be called that. THat doesnt in one way make me think ferocity. Neither does MGP but it is still better.

Clover or Cloverfield. WHat is this a Michael Flatley production. It sounds like an Irish jig. I cant take that seriously at all.

Think of a better name than MGP and then Ill stop calling it that. COme on. And you told me to question my sexuality because of a stupid name. The monster was awesome. It doesnt even nedd a name for all I care.

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Her wrote:
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The shark in Jaws is simply known as Jaws.



The shark in Jaws was known as Bruce.


Who originally called the shark "Bruce?"

The people who made "Jaws"

Who originally called the monster "Clover?"

The people who made "Cloverfield."
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I've got a better conclusion to this name thing:

Let people call the monster whatever they'd like. yes. I like that conclusion better. I won't piss all over the name 'MGP' as long as no one complains about me [or anyone] calling our monster what they want to call it.

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 		I'm already calling him MGP for Magnificently Great Pie.
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I'm already calling him MGP for Magnificently Great Pie.



Mmmmmm....pie
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xboyonfirex wrote:
Her wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:


The shark in Jaws is simply known as Jaws.



The shark in Jaws was known as Bruce.


Who originally called the shark "Bruce?"

The people who made "Jaws"

Who originally called the monster "Clover?"

The people who made "Cloverfield."
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I've got a better conclusion to this name thing:

Let people call the monster whatever they'd like. yes. I like that conclusion better. I won't piss all over the name 'MGP' as long as no one complains about me [or anyone] calling our monster what they want to call it.



I agree. The monster doesnt have a name, so there is no wrong name to call him. just call the monster what you wanna call it, beause in the end, it makes no difference what you call it.

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 		BTW, I miss my original thread topic... it was a nice theory.

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 		It's a fictional 400 foot monster... Who cares if people call it Mr. Grumpy Pants?

I think I'll call it... Ultimate WEAPON in homage to Final Fantasy.

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 		The American Kaiju or The American Daikaiju.

T.A.K.
T.A.D.

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The American Kaiju or The American Daikaiju.

T.A.K.
T.A.D.


Tak and the Power of FUCKING DESTROYING SHIT.
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 		Me and my friends have just been calling it Bobby Corwin Jr.

Is that really so strange?

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Dr. Chaos wrote:
Me and my friends have just been calling it Bobby Corwin Jr.

Is that really so strange?


I think I'm going to refer to him as "Tadpole." from here on out...

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 		Back 2 the subject, part 1
Yeah I know that's corny as hell...
People closely involved with the project and "in the know," namely Abrams and Reeves, have both referred to Mistergrumpycloverpantzilla as being:
1: A frightened baby with separation anxiety who performs a birth ritual in the movie. This indicates that the monster has JUST been born, and that most of its rampaging is probably just because it's lost and scared and can't find it's mommy, and for whatever reason those mean little things on the ground keep shooting it.
2: Something that has lived at the bottom of the ocean for thousands of years and is pissed. This would seem to indicate some kind of sentience and hostility.

If they are both true, does that mean that:
a) The monster is of such a colossal life span that, after thousands of years, it is still just a baby? This could be true if Abrams is channeling Lovecraft, whose "Ancient ones" lived for millennia. Cthulhu and his fellow beings were, apparently, hibernating since long before the dawn of man. Assuming that those beings don't spend the majority of their lifetimes "dead but dreaming" then they must live millions, if not hundreds of millions of years (an "eon" is now referred to as being 200,000,000 years, but I don't know if that's literally what Lovecraft meant in his stories when he talked about the being's age). Thus, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that a similar creature would have an infancy many thousands of years long. Disclaimer: I know it's not Cthulhu, but that doesn't mean he can't take an idea used in that mythos and apply it here.
b) The monster was frozen waaaaaay back in the day and was just unthawed and reanimated. This explanation sucks and I hate it.
c) There are two or more monsters, one of whom is a scared little baby with separation anxiety, while the other is its many thousands of years old mother trying to find/avenge her offspring. I rather like this one, because it explains
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the helicopter bite. When the monster was first bombed, the helicopter was WAY up over its head, but before the dust cleared the monster bit the thing. I originally figured either it can jump or the helicopter swooped down for a closer look (stupid but possible) but it makes a little more sense to say that, in the smoke cloud, the (much taller) mother came, saw her baby dying, and bit the helicopter which, to her, was only a little above head height.

d) The monster was, as has already been suggested in this post, newly born but took thousands of years to be born. This is the simplest explanation in terms of plot, though the whole slowly gathering everything else's genetic traits seems a bit implausible to me. Seems more likely that something that big would just have a really long gestation period than that it is being cobbled out of other animals.

Guess Teddy's recording "they've found something, or they're making something" has been pretty well decided in the "found" category.

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