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[SPEC] Godzilla and Cloverfield
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Euchre wrote:
The point of that 'notice' is to humorously point out that Godizilla and other various monsters are not part of the world of Cloverfield. Trying to push them into it is basically disruptive, but comparing and contrasting them is not.

In other words, I'm trying to avoid another Zilla debacle.


So me running completley OT and talking about machine-gun weilding dino's is coo?
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 		Godzilla was 1954, not 1998. Fraudzilla was 1998.

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Matt9882 wrote:
So me running completley OT and talking about machine-gun weilding dino's is coo?


Well, as much as it can be in a thread that is basically about trying to link things already declared OOG by the PMs...

And btw, if JP4 is really going to have the raptors as anthropomorphic mercenaries with machine guns, I feel very sorry for that franchise. Crichton is probably wishing they'd never made his first book into a film at this point. If the raptors are more like trained dolphins, that's a little more reasonable. However, a company using a vicious being as a weapon...
Alien anyone? Aliens? Being un-original sucks. That's why I really hope MGP is never tied to Tagruato as it's creation, or as something they wanted to manipulate as their own weapon. Exploited as a resource I can see...
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 		They might as well just make "Turok" the movie if they're gonna do that.

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Monstrous wrote:
Godzilla was 1954, not 1998. Fraudzilla was 1998.


lol


Quote:
Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park 2
Jurassic Park 3
Jurassic Park 4: Dinosaurs in da Hood
Jurassic Park 5: Dinosaurs in Space


LOL

Honestly, I can see some crossovers on the horizon. But's that so far in the future it's practically irrelivant. I too hope that the nature of ATT is as original as possible. I'd like to see something I woudln't have thought of. Hopefully it doesn't fall under berserk bio weapon, alien from space, or mutant sealife. I would add dinosaur to that list, but the way things are going it sounds more like a prehistoric deep sea lifeform (i.e. underwater dinosaur). Though I would gladly accept something new.

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Euchre wrote:
Matt9882 wrote:
So me running completley OT and talking about machine-gun weilding dino's is coo?


Well, as much as it can be in a thread that is basically about trying to link things already declared OOG by the PMs...

And btw, if JP4 is really going to have the raptors as anthropomorphic mercenaries with machine guns, I feel very sorry for that franchise. Crichton is probably wishing they'd never made his first book into a film at this point. If the raptors are more like trained dolphins, that's a little more reasonable. However, a company using a vicious being as a weapon...
Alien anyone? Aliens? Being un-original sucks. That's why I really hope MGP is never tied to Tagruato as it's creation, or as something they wanted to manipulate as their own weapon. Exploited as a resource I can see...


Anyone that has read the book Jurassic Park knows all they did was take the original book and chop it up to make three movies. All of the events in the three movies happen in the book, they just added some things, lengthened it out, and changed a butt load of stuff. As usual , the book was so much better than the movies. I read the book four years before the first movie came out
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Saiyan King wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Matt9882 wrote:
So me running completley OT and talking about machine-gun weilding dino's is coo?


Well, as much as it can be in a thread that is basically about trying to link things already declared OOG by the PMs...

And btw, if JP4 is really going to have the raptors as anthropomorphic mercenaries with machine guns, I feel very sorry for that franchise. Crichton is probably wishing they'd never made his first book into a film at this point. If the raptors are more like trained dolphins, that's a little more reasonable. However, a company using a vicious being as a weapon...
Alien anyone? Aliens? Being un-original sucks. That's why I really hope MGP is never tied to Tagruato as it's creation, or as something they wanted to manipulate as their own weapon. Exploited as a resource I can see...


Anyone that has read the book Jurassic Park knows all they did was take the original book and chop it up to make three movies. All of the events in the three movies happen in the book, they just added some things, lengthened it out, and changed a butt load of stuff. As usual , the book was so much better than the movies. I read the book four years before the first movie came out



As did I...the first book was amazing it was violent, adventurous, had cliff hangers...definte page-turner...the movie doesnt compare at all...I even found the second book good...but the movies didnt do them any justice
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guerra001 wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Matt9882 wrote:
So me running completley OT and talking about machine-gun weilding dino's is coo?


Well, as much as it can be in a thread that is basically about trying to link things already declared OOG by the PMs...

And btw, if JP4 is really going to have the raptors as anthropomorphic mercenaries with machine guns, I feel very sorry for that franchise. Crichton is probably wishing they'd never made his first book into a film at this point. If the raptors are more like trained dolphins, that's a little more reasonable. However, a company using a vicious being as a weapon...
Alien anyone? Aliens? Being un-original sucks. That's why I really hope MGP is never tied to Tagruato as it's creation, or as something they wanted to manipulate as their own weapon. Exoited as a resource I can see...


Anyone that has read the book Jurassic Park knows all they did was take the original book and chop it up to make three movies. All of the events in the three movies happen in the book, they just added some things, lengthened it out, and changed a butt load of stuff. As usual , the book was so much better than the movies. I read the book four years before the first movie came out



As did I...the first book was amazing it was violent, adventurous, had cliff hangers...definte page-turner...the movie doesnt compare at all...I even found the second book good...but the movies didnt do them any justice


thats what im sayin. the first book, i couldnt put it down. after the beginning, with all the technical stuff. The part where there out on the tour and break down in front of the TRex pen, i was literally freaking out reading it. He wrote that book so perfectly, i read the whole thing 500+ pages in two days
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Well. You're talking about the US Godzilla release right? I don't see how it would have been possible for a newscaster to make a report about Godzilla because in that movie (which is more of an alternate dimension rather than apart of the actual franchise) they wouldn't have known what to call it. Also, I don't remember seeing that trailer at all but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

I believe the boat attacked in Godzilla was a fishing boat (or a submarine). It was definitely not an oil rig.

Nobody is sure why the monster was in the park looking around while planes were off bombing some other unknown location. Maybe he called a timeout? Either way it's being heavily scrutinez in several other places.

Also, in case you didn't know, the last Godzilla movie was Godzilla Final Wars. There's a patent lock on it for at least a decade so there aren't going to be any more of those for a long while.

Giant monster movies typically draw a lot of parallels. I suppose that's the nature of the genre. Your idea wasn't stupid, but maybe a tad bit far fetched maybe?

1.godzilla attack a tuna ship or sum fishing ship
2.that decade wait will be up in a year or 2.

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Saiyan King wrote:
Anyone that has read the book Jurassic Park knows all they did was take the original book and chop it up to make three movies. All of the events in the three movies happen in the book, they just added some things, lengthened it out, and changed a butt load of stuff. As usual , the book was so much better than the movies. I read the book four years before the first movie came out

I did read the first book, and unless they did some special re-issue that had the differences from the movie (kids roles reversed, species differences, Hammond's personality) and yet truncated it somehow to fit the timeline of the movie, it did not cover all the events from JP2 and JP3. I don't think JP1 was such a horrid deviation from the book, just because of the semantics of a few species. It's most egregious error was the change to Hammond, but I suppose some feel heaven forbid a computer geek be a girl. I haven't read Lost World, so I don't know how JP2 compares - but I know the quality of the movie was a good bit lower than the first. JP3 wasn't hardly any better. The only value of JP2 was the humor of a T-Rex rampaging through San Diego. JP3 is according to most sources not based on anything Crichton ever wrote. Of course it basically sucks anyway.
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Euchre wrote:
Saiyan King wrote:
Anyone that has read the book Jurassic Park knows all they did was take the original book and chop it up to make three movies. All of the events in the three movies happen in the book, they just added some things, lengthened it out, and changed a butt load of stuff. As usual , the book was so much better than the movies. I read the book four years before the first movie came out

I did read the first book, and unless they did some special re-issue that had the differences from the movie (kids roles reversed, species differences, Hammond's personality) and yet truncated it somehow to fit the timeline of the movie, it did not cover all the events from JP2 and JP3. I don't think JP1 was such a horrid deviation from the book, just because of the semantics of a few species. It's most egregious error was the change to Hammond, but I suppose some feel heaven forbid a computer geek be a girl. I haven't read Lost World, so I don't know how JP2 compares - but I know the quality of the movie was a good bit lower than the first. JP3 wasn't hardly any better. The only value of JP2 was the humor of a T-Rex rampaging through San Diego. JP3 is according to most sources not based on anything Crichton ever wrote. Of course it basically sucks anyway.



I agree with youthere im pretty sure JP3 was its own breed of crap. Also yes Hammonds character, the violence in the book, the boat rides to escape, and the general bombing of it all in the end...they really look like they didnt read it at all.
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Monstrous wrote:
Godzilla was 1954, not 1998. Fraudzilla was 1998.


When was Freudzilla?

On a tangental note: What do I get to see my Godzilla/MGP slashfic? I demand these things!
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Euchre wrote:

I did read the first book, and unless they did some special re-issue that had the differences from the movie (kids roles reversed, species differences, Hammond's personality) and yet truncated it somehow to fit the timeline of the movie, it did not cover all the events from JP2 and JP3. I don't think JP1 was such a horrid deviation from the book, just because of the semantics of a few species. It's most egregious error was the change to Hammond, but I suppose some feel heaven forbid a computer geek be a girl. I haven't read Lost World, so I don't know how JP2 compares - but I know the quality of the movie was a good bit lower than the first. JP3 wasn't hardly any better. The only value of JP2 was the humor of a T-Rex rampaging through San Diego. JP3 is according to most sources not based on anything Crichton ever wrote. Of course it basically sucks anyway.


Taken from Jurassic Park, the book:

JP2: Waterfall scene, girl getting attacked by Compsognathuses, dinosaurs on boat on way to mainland, the scene where the guy gets killed by Compys (except it was Hammond in the book)

From JP3: The whole raft idea, the pterosaur sequence, going to the island to rescue someone who'd been living there on their own for awhile (actually from the second book)

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gigantis2001 wrote:
Euchre wrote:

I did read the first book, and unless they did some special re-issue that had the differences from the movie (kids roles reversed, species differences, Hammond's personality) and yet truncated it somehow to fit the timeline of the movie, it did not cover all the events from JP2 and JP3. I don't think JP1 was such a horrid deviation from the book, just because of the semantics of a few species. It's most egregious error was the change to Hammond, but I suppose some feel heaven forbid a computer geek be a girl. I haven't read Lost World, so I don't know how JP2 compares - but I know the quality of the movie was a good bit lower than the first. JP3 wasn't hardly any better. The only value of JP2 was the humor of a T-Rex rampaging through San Diego. JP3 is according to most sources not based on anything Crichton ever wrote. Of course it basically sucks anyway.


Taken from Jurassic Park, the book:

JP2: Waterfall scene, girl getting attacked by Compsognathuses, dinosaurs on boat on way to mainland, the scene where the guy gets killed by Compys (except it was Hammond in the book)

From JP3: The whole raft idea, the pterosaur sequence, going to the island to rescue someone who'd been living there on their own for awhile (actually from the second book)




Ahh well there you go....They stole from both books and made them crap...oh well. Im under the impression if they had made a movie based on the book it wouldnt have done as well anyways...seems like they cant make movies exactally the same way...people cant handle that kind of darkness in a movie
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