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[PRESS]Reeves, Paramount talking Cloverfield 2!
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JadedMax wrote:
Of course Shyamalan movies "suck" to most people who have seen them. Because every scene isn't a giveaway of the next.

Oh heaven help us we actually have to think about the movies we watch.

Let's just go back and fix our mistakes and make a Casablanca 2, or a Maltese Falcon 2, or a Citizen Kane 2 or a White Heat 2.


No, they just suck. I mean c'mon, aliens to whom water is toxic invade a planet that is 70% covered in the stuff? I don't think so.

EDIT: For the record I hate sequels, you should relax a bit.
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Ivo wrote:

No, they just suck. I mean c'mon, aliens to whom water is toxic to invade a planet that is 70% covered in the stuff. I don't think so.

EDIT: For the record I hate sequels, you should relax a bit.


No different than War of The World where the aliens were killed off by our germs. If anything call Signs a bad sequel to WoTW Ironically enough the remake was also awful.

And to be honest I'm not upset or anything of the sort. Just mostly in awe of people and their selfishness. Cloverfield was to use a hack description "lightning in a bottle" For once I could say one of the best movies of the year will be a cheesy monster movie. Not No Country For Old Men, or History of Violence. Some slow plodding thought inspiring piece of drama.

Now people want to make lightning strike twice. It aint happening. It seldom ever does. It could be Martin Scorsese himself trying to do this sequel. It reeks of triteness. Putting together 90 minutes just to placate to people who want to know where this stupid monster is from. Or is it still alive. Come on already.
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JadedMax wrote:
Ivo wrote:

No, they just suck. I mean c'mon, aliens to whom water is toxic to invade a planet that is 70% covered in the stuff. I don't think so.

EDIT: For the record I hate sequels, you should relax a bit.


No different than War of The World where the aliens were killed off by our germs. If anything call Signs a bad sequel to WoTW Ironically enough the remake was also awful.

And to be honest I'm not upset or anything of the sort. Just mostly in awe of people and their selfishness. Cloverfield was to use a hack description "lightning in a bottle" For once I could say one of the best movies of the year will be a cheesy monster movie. Not No Country For Old Men, or History of Violence. Some slow plodding thought inspiring piece of drama.

Now people want to make lightning strike twice. It aint happening. It seldom ever does. It could be Martin Scorsese himself trying to do this sequel. It reeks of triteness. Putting together 90 minutes just to placate to people who want to know where this stupid monster is from. Or is it still alive. Come on already.


Well, I think a sequel would fail, would be a bad movie. I still won't ever like Signs, and wasn't ever really a fan of WOTW, yes the remake was bad. I don't need everything explained, this is part of the reason the new Star Wars movies were so bad. Anyway, just seemed like you were really angry, sorry to assume.
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Nah. Not angry. I just want to help preserve a good film. My belief is if they do another movie and it tanks it will seriously tarnish the original.
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JadedMax wrote:
Nah. Not angry. I just want to help preserve a good film. My belief is if they do another movie and it tanks it will seriously tarnish the original.


That's not entirely true. Think of the Rocky series - though each one was exponentially worse then the one preceding it, the original is still very good. Also, we can hope that this will turn out like The Godfather, and the second will actually be better than the first.
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You people honestly think they're going to rush into Cloverfield 2? Abrams aint that kind of guy.

There will be a solid story, a solid cast, and most importantly, a solid IDEA before they start anything major on the sequel.

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JadedMax wrote:
Of course Shyamalan movies "suck" to most people who have seen them. Because every scene isn't a giveaway of the next.

Oh heaven help us we actually have to think about the movies we watch.

Let's just go back and fix our mistakes and make a Casablanca 2, or a Maltese Falcon 2, or a Citizen Kane 2 or a White Heat 2.



Dude I understand where your coming from but you cant actually be sstanding up for that moron? Shyamalan makes the shittiest movies....not because of the mystery element, but be cause they suck. Take the village for an example: Beginnining was awesome, themonsters were crazy....and then its all fake, they live in a national park....WTF? How do you go from that to THAT...he makes crappy movies...and I actually liked Signs for the record...but he made Stuart Little...
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I'm only using Shyamalan as an example. Not the biggest fan. Loved Sixth Sense though.

OK. Here's the deal. Cloverfield. Let's just stick to fact. The movie is in itself the account of footage found in Central Park after a monster attacks the city.

If I go out and find a camera or just find a disc or a tape or a card and look at it all I'm gonna get is what's on it. I may be eager as hell to learn more. But that's all I got. Now I can get on the net and research if it's an event big enough. And that's my point. Cloverfield was meant to be like an event. It happened. We all witnessed it through the footage.

You can't just go and make more footage. You could find more, and in that case that would suck. I'm already invested in this group of people.

In an effort to use this style of filming the makers of this movie have in a way boxed themselves into the method.

It's like an 80 minute Youtube video. And when it's over it's over. That is how it was billed. Now people want to create a typical Hollywood polished and proper film. No. That would suck.
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JadedMax wrote:
I'm only using Shyamalan as an example. Not the biggest fan. Loved Sixth Sense though.

OK. Here's the deal. Cloverfield. Let's just stick to fact. The movie is in itself the account of footage found in Central Park after a monster attacks the city.

If I go out and find a camera or just find a disc or a tape or a card and look at it all I'm gonna get is what's on it. I may be eager as hell to learn more. But that's all I got. Now I can get on the net and research if it's an event big enough. And that's my point. Cloverfield was meant to be like an event. It happened. We all witnessed it through the footage.

You can't just go and make more footage. You could find more, and in that case that would suck. I'm already invested in this group of people.

In an effort to use this style of filming the makers of this movie have in a way boxed themselves into the method.

It's like an 80 minute Youtube video. And when it's over it's over. That is how it was billed. Now people want to create a typical Hollywood polished and proper film. No. That would suck.



I agree with you completely, They seemed to have screwed themselves into having to "find" another video...But No, A hollywood movie is NOT the way to go....this movie was so great becauseit was one perspective....one guy thats it...no stupid shots no nothing...It MADE the movie pretty much. Im not so opposed to seeing a sequel, but i dont want answers...i just wanna see the monster tear shit up again...maybe from different angles...thats all
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guerra001 wrote:
They seemed to have screwed themselves into having to "find" another video...But No, A hollywood movie is NOT the way to go....this movie was so great becauseit was one perspective....one guy thats it...no stupid shots no nothing...It MADE the movie pretty much. Im not so opposed to seeing a sequel, but i dont want answers...i just wanna see the monster tear shit up again...maybe from different angles...thats all


We're pretty much on the same page. If they want to pick up on the story, that's fine I guess. But I don't want a big reveal of the monster's origins and squeezing in all the online stuff and all.

To be honest I wanna see the monster head uptown to Harlem. It wouldn't stand a chance.
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guerra001 wrote:
They seemed to have screwed themselves into having to "find" another video...But No, A hollywood movie is NOT the way to go....this movie was so great becauseit was one perspective....one guy thats it...no stupid shots no nothing...It MADE the movie pretty much. Im not so opposed to seeing a sequel, but i dont want answers...i just wanna see the monster tear shit up again...maybe from different angles...thats all


We're pretty much on the same page. If they want to pick up on the story, that's fine I guess. But I don't want a big reveal of the monster's origins and squeezing in all the online stuff and all.

To be honest I wanna see the monster head uptown to Harlem. It wouldn't stand a chance.



LOL for sure...itd have to high tail it outta there. But yeah no answers cause it really doesnt make any sense to ahve any...even from a soldiers point of view...which im sorry but is a really bad idea.
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If they do this right...IMHO the word's Clover nor Field should be in the "sequel's" title.
May make it easier on the folks against a sequel here.
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It also seems that a lot of people here are giving the impression that the entire world/USA was destroyed by the monster. So I do not get how they've boxed themselves into a sequel that can only be done with the same film style. Just NYC, or parts of it was demolished by this monster. I think if the sequel has the potential to be another great film, even in the 3rd person pov. The monster: Where did it go from there? How much time goes by from the end of that fateful tape to the time of a sequel? Who cares what happens inbetween...that's for a hopefully future ARG. If the right location, the right cast, and the right vision and effort is put forth....the next movie, whatever it may be called....will be a good one.(unless they change the monster drastically or something, etc.)

There are a whole lot of possibilities for a sequel as long as it's pure in intent, original in content and JJ oversees the entire project and not to be pushed onto another person like say Shyamalan. ARG

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JadedMax wrote:
You can't just go and make more footage. You could find more, and in that case that would suck. I'm already invested in this group of people.

In an effort to use this style of filming the makers of this movie have in a way boxed themselves into the method.

It's like an 80 minute Youtube video. And when it's over it's over. That is how it was billed. Now people want to create a typical Hollywood polished and proper film. No. That would suck.


I agree with the first bit. I don't want to see hand-held footage from someone else's perspective, because no matter the character, the basic events will be the same: character is living life normally, holycrap! monster attack!, oh noes the parasites are eating him/her, he/she dies or escapes. Same formula, the cinematography loses its novelty, and we have to get to know new characters. Ugh.

I disagree that they've "boxed themselves into the method" though. There are so many different avenues they could take with a sequel. It could be more leaked government footage that basically debriefs and outlines what happened. It could be a mockumentary that explores the origins of the monster, a broad overview of the attack, and the aftermath. Lily could come back for something like that.

Shaky cam and "polished and proper" cinematography aren't the only options in filmmaking. I think a sequel is a bad idea--I'd prefer a net-based sequel of sorts through the continuation of the ARG--but it will make them plenty of money, especially if it isn't shot with a shaky cam, because then everyone could see it without worrying about getting sick.

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Well the problem with that though is that there's no money with an online sequel / ARG format. The idea has always been to give the US their own Godzilla. Something that kids would buy at a store and adults would buy at sci-fi conventions. Very Happy

So a movie sequel is all but inevitable. Trust me, I know where you're coming from. I have always said that they should have left Matrix at the first movie.
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I think they should do a sequel from the monster's POV. Talk about originality!

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