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[SPEC] CLOVER/DARWIN/MGP'S BIRTH/ORIGIN
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xboyonfirex
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 		Re: Back 2 the subject, part 1
Yeah I know that's corny as hell...
uberjim wrote:
People closely involved with the project and "in the know," namely Abrams and Reeves, have both referred to Mistergrumpycloverpantzilla as being:
1: A frightened baby with separation anxiety who performs a birth ritual in the movie. This indicates that the monster has JUST been born, and that most of its rampaging is probably just because it's lost and scared and can't find it's mommy, and for whatever reason those mean little things on the ground keep shooting it.
2: Something that has lived at the bottom of the ocean for thousands of years and is pissed. This would seem to indicate some kind of sentience and hostility.

If they are both true, does that mean that:
a) The monster is of such a colossal life span that, after thousands of years, it is still just a baby? This could be true if Abrams is channeling Lovecraft, whose "Ancient ones" lived for millennia. Cthulhu and his fellow beings were, apparently, hibernating since long before the dawn of man. Assuming that those beings don't spend the majority of their lifetimes "dead but dreaming" then they must live millions, if not hundreds of millions of years (an "eon" is now referred to as being 200,000,000 years, but I don't know if that's literally what Lovecraft meant in his stories when he talked about the being's age). Thus, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that a similar creature would have an infancy many thousands of years long. Disclaimer: I know it's not Cthulhu, but that doesn't mean he can't take an idea used in that mythos and apply it here.
b) The monster was frozen waaaaaay back in the day and was just unthawed and reanimated. This explanation sucks and I hate it.
c) There are two or more monsters, one of whom is a scared little baby with separation anxiety, while the other is its many thousands of years old mother trying to find/avenge her offspring. I rather like this one, because it explains
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the helicopter bite. When the monster was first bombed, the helicopter was WAY up over its head, but before the dust cleared the monster bit the thing. I originally figured either it can jump or the helicopter swooped down for a closer look (stupid but possible) but it makes a little more sense to say that, in the smoke cloud, the (much taller) mother came, saw her baby dying, and bit the helicopter which, to her, was only a little above head height.

d) The monster was, as has already been suggested in this post, newly born but took thousands of years to be born. This is the simplest explanation in terms of plot, though the whole slowly gathering everything else's genetic traits seems a bit implausible to me. Seems more likely that something that big would just have a really long gestation period than that it is being cobbled out of other animals.

Guess Teddy's recording "they've found something, or they're making something" has been pretty well decided in the "found" category.


the world has been around for 4.5 billion years [estimated] so I think that's plenty of time for this creature to grow, especially if we're saying thousands and not billions of years. Plus, J.J. Said that it's been down there for thousands of years... didn't necessarily deny or confirm that it was in the form/size that it's always been.

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Dr. Chaos
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 		At this point, the only two monsters we really know of are the parasites and the babies, I'm sticking with that myself, personally.

As for it just being born recently, I've been mainly thinking something along the lines of it was trapped deep underground in some sort of suspended animation (frozen, born from an egg, etc, something of that nature) with the others of it's kind possibly being dead/extinct.

With it being confused, lost and scared, where is it's parents, pack, anything at all? Granted we know nonthing of how this species operate as a family or if they do at all but it seems kind of strange how it would just wander off like this on it's own, the first of it's ilk to do this in human sight.

With the way the producers have described the creature, it seems so alone and isolated from the world.

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Ghidra99
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 		No offense, but I loathe the name "Darwin" for the monster.

It comes off as being so... cliche.

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 		I don't like it either.

I think alot of people want something more iconic or regal sounding like "King Kong" or "Godzilla".

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Chrizzy
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 		OT, I know, but it seems every topic turns into a name debate, lol...
How about we just go with this and get it over with:

Beluacor [pronounced BEL-ə-kor; that is, just like it's spelled, but with th 'u' being silent] - meaning 'sea beast': from Latin "belua", beast; "aequoreum", of the sea

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skatehimrock
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 		it seemed to me in the helicopter scene that its arms streched or something? Idea Question

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xboyonfirex
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skatehimrock wrote:
it seemed to me in the helicopter scene that its arms streched or something? Idea Question


when??

If you're referring to the point where Tadpole/MGP jumped out of the smoke/fire/explosion- that was his face.

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skatehimrock
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xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
it seemed to me in the helicopter scene that its arms streched or something? Idea Question


when??

If you're referring to the point where Tadpole/MGP jumped out of the smoke/fire/explosion- that was his face.


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srry like i said be4 i was high when i seen it first time Embarassed
but im seeing it again saturday...anything i should be looking for?

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