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[SPOILER] New Enhanced Photos of Monster/Parasites(updated)
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Headman
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nuintholiel wrote:
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Nice pictures! They look like the ones I posted here yesterday: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24274&start=30

I never got around to enhancing mine. You saved me a lot of work. Very nice! Very Happy

What would be cool is if someone could do an animated gif of all the HD pictures forward and reverse.


here you go Headman 2 versions

Fast



Slow


Very Happy Thank you very much!

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Headman wrote:


Very Happy Thank you very much!



darn photobucket bandwidth!

Oh it's fixed now... geez, I reposted the gifs in my original post...

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I love you guys so much!

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Christ that's good quality. My theatre didn't even have that good of quality (screen was way too dark).

What you can notice, is that there isn't really any visible gums, the teeth just end into the base of the mouth.

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Monstrous wrote:
Christ that's good quality. My theatre didn't even have that good of quality (screen was way too dark).

What you can notice, is that there isn't really any visible gums, the teeth just end into the base of the mouth.


seemingly like a deep sea creature...

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Something else that worths mentioning is that you can notice how the heavy fire has absolute no effect on the creature.

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the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.

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skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...

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xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...


Question theory? JJ. said he had been in the ocean for thousands of years. Rolling Eyes

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skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...


Question theory? JJ. said he had been in the ocean for thousands of years. Rolling Eyes


no, I know about the "thousand year" part- but I'm talking the pressure making its skin harder... I mean, are we basing this off of any certain information of another deep sea creature who's adapted to the deep in that specific way? Or are we just wingin' it based off of....

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xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...


Question theory? JJ. said he had been in the ocean for thousands of years. Rolling Eyes


no, I know about the "thousand year" part- but I'm talking the pressure making its skin harder... I mean, are we basing this off of any certain information of another deep sea creature who's adapted to the deep in that specific way? Or are we just wingin' it based off of....


well thats what happens. if you adapt to that kind of pressure. goign from that to no pressure is like night and day.
you wouldnt feel barly anything.

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skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...


Question theory? JJ. said he had been in the ocean for thousands of years. Rolling Eyes


no, I know about the "thousand year" part- but I'm talking the pressure making its skin harder... I mean, are we basing this off of any certain information of another deep sea creature who's adapted to the deep in that specific way? Or are we just wingin' it based off of....


well thats what happens. if you adapt to that kind of pressure. goign from that to no pressure is like night and day.
you wouldnt feel barly anything.


and don't get me wrong, believe me- that's probably the best theory out there for it so far, just w/ the sorted flaws...

I mean, yes- it has been down there for 1,000 years, but it's also just a baby, w/ some post-birth ritual of dropping parasites. Does it mean it was JUST born? No, we're not the type of people that can go off of drifted assumptions- but in the- it doesn't deny that it was JUST born.

But also, how much science and proof is involved in this theory? I mean, it's a sound theory based off of some thoughtful assumption... but is there actual proof that the deep water pressure makes skin harden?

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xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
skatehimrock wrote:
the creature has lived in very very deep water....the ocean...that means if he has been down there thousands of years than those extreme amounts of pressure has toughend the skin to extremities.
theres your explanation.


that's one theory...


Question theory? JJ. said he had been in the ocean for thousands of years. Rolling Eyes


no, I know about the "thousand year" part- but I'm talking the pressure making its skin harder... I mean, are we basing this off of any certain information of another deep sea creature who's adapted to the deep in that specific way? Or are we just wingin' it based off of....


well thats what happens. if you adapt to that kind of pressure. goign from that to no pressure is like night and day.
you wouldnt feel barly anything.


and don't get me wrong, believe me- that's probably the best theory out there for it so far, just w/ the sorted flaws...

I mean, yes- it has been down there for 1,000 years, but it's also just a baby, w/ some post-birth ritual of dropping parasites. Does it mean it was JUST born? No, we're not the type of people that can go off of drifted assumptions- but in the- it doesn't deny that it was JUST born.

But also, how much science and proof is involved in this theory? I mean, it's a sound theory based off of some thoughtful assumption... but is there actual proof that the deep water pressure makes skin harden?


http://ask.metafilter.com/17603/How-do-undersea-organisms-manage-it

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Pressure differential plays a huge part. When standing at sea level, your body is bearing the weight of the atmosphere above you, 14.7 pounds per square inch or thereabouts. Over the entire surface area of your body that comes to a staggering amount of pressure, but you don't get crushed because the gases inside your body cavities are also at 14.7psi or thereabouts. Because the pressure is equalized you don't even notice all that weight of atmosphere bearing down on you.

Similarly, a deep-sea creature's insides are equalized with the pressure of the water outside its body, and so it goes about its business neither knowing nor caring about the immense pressure at the depths where it lives.

But when you have a submersible maintaining something resembling normal atmospheric pressure, and suddenly it gets punctured, the submersible undergoes a crushing equalization of internal and external pressure. This is exactly the reverse of the explosive decompression you would experience if you opened the cabin door of an airliner at cruising altitude; where in the airliner you have air inside rushing out with tremendous force to equalize pressure, in the submersible you have water outside rushing in with tremendous force to equalize pressure.

This is also the reason for the bends: when you dive, the pressure of the water compresses the gases, particularly nitrogen, inside your body. If you come back up too quickly, the gases inside you likewise expand too quickly, wreaking havoc on your body; the effect is the same as compressed carbon dioxide gas expanding when you open a bottle of soda.


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In summary, the primary anatomical adaptations for pressure of a deep-diving mammal such as the sperm whale center on air-containing spaces and the prevention of tissue barotrauma. Air cavities, when present, are lined with venous plexuses, which are thought to fill at depth, obliterate the air space, and prevent "the squeeze." The lungs collapse, which prevents lung rupture and (important with regard to physiology) blocks gas exchange in the lung. Lack of nitrogen absorption at depth prevents the development of nitrogen narcosis and decompression sickness. In addition, because the lungs do not serve as a source of oxygen at depth, deep divers rely on enhanced oxygen stores in their blood and muscle.

The main adaptation to the pressure is the reduction or loss of the swim bladder. Many fish have also developed swim bladders filled with lipids instead of gas. The lipids are relatively incompressible when compared to gases.


http://www.marinebio.com/Oceans/TheDeep/

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With good samples, we now know that deep sea creatures have adapted to pressure by developing bodies with no excess cavities, such as swim bladders, that would collapse under intense pressure. The flesh and bones of deep sea marine creatures are soft and flabby, which also helps them withstand the pressure.


It seems that tough skin is not in any way an adaptation to high pressure. In fact, it couldn't even survive the pressure because of its lung thingies.

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well srry just kind of figured.
Confused
+ it was on that faq i posted when i first came. but idk it could have been full of shit.

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skatehimrock wrote:
well srry just kind of figured.
Confused
+ it was on that faq i posted when i first came. but idk it could have been full of shit.


Like I said, it's a good theory and c'mon- We're talking about a monster movie here... so it could be ANYTHING.

3 theories I've heard so far:

+adaption to the depth pressure
+some sort of Extremophile is involved
+it's a giant indestructible monster that was just born invincible... kinda like Godzilla.

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