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[SPEC] The problem of size
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gigantis2001
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phaed wrote:
If you really wanted to look at this realistically, the 'baby' that is MGP would be as impossible to exist (move, stand, breathe) on the surface of the Earth as his hypothetical mom.

So it's a good thing this is a movie.


'Splain.

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 		No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.

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phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?
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guerra001 wrote:
phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?
They don't stand erect, or support their weight on land. And this thing is like 100 blue whales.

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phaed wrote:
realistical


I don't know, man, I thought it was pretty "realistical".

Edit: fixed the "quote thing"

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 		More like "realisticalish" Smile

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phaed wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?
They don't stand erect, or support their weight on land. And this thing is like 100 blue whales.



But they do get enough blood to their heads and are able to supply themselves with enough oxygen...I agree with you that its unbelieveable but its a monster movie...its fun to think that could be something this big at the bottom of the ocean in a trench somewhere

And once it again its a movie...please dont destroy it with scientific "isms"



LOL realistical...funny spelling mistakes
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 		[quote="guerra001"]
phaed wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?
They don't stand erect, or support their weight on land. And this thing is like 100 blue whales.



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But they do get enough blood to their heads and are able to supply themselves with enough oxygen
Well yes- because they do not stand erect on land, but swim in the sea.
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...I agree with you that its unbelieveable but its a monster movie...its fun to think that could be something this big at the bottom of the ocean in a trench somewhere
I agree, but that wasn't my point.

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And once it again its a movie...please dont destroy it with scientific "isms"
Yes! That was my point. This is a monster movie. The monster is absurd anyway. Why should we dismiss his hypothetical mom because of realism? I can only think of aesthetic reasons Smile



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 		A'right, bro (phead), I get you.

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guerra001 wrote:
phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?

He's actually right. The only reason he/she/it is able to exist is because it's in the water, where his weight is supported. As soon as he came onto land he would pretty much collapse under its own pressure due to gravity.
What a shitty movie that would be..."I saw it, it's alive....wait...no it's not, my bad."

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 		Thought I'd throw this in for fun, joes and jennys: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Longest_dinosaurs1.png

Edit: here's another: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Largesttheropods.png

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suckaH wrote:
guerra001 wrote:
phaed wrote:
No animal that big can get enough oxygen, pump enough blood to its head, and even support its own weight. Of course, this is some sort of "hyperdense" creature... ANd it certainly is supposed to have unique miraculous systems that take care of its metabolism and blood supply... But, since all that is not in any way realistical to begin with, then it's as easy to assume it's just a baby, and a "mommy" ten times as big can still be a possibility. A cheesy possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.


Uhh dude...how do blue whales survive then? Are they a cheesy impossiblity as well?

He's actually right. The only reason he/she/it is able to exist is because it's in the water, where his weight is supported. As soon as he came onto land he would pretty much collapse under its own pressure due to gravity.
What a shitty movie that would be..."I saw it, it's alive....wait...no it's not, my bad."




Ahhh ok I get it now...makes sense

Although that would be funny to watch it collapse lol

Maybe thats why they put that whole thing falling at the end...to show that their previous statement about the 1000 years under the ocean thing was flawed and now its an alien?
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 		Last time I checked Dinosaurs were pretty big, they lived a nice long life for being as big as they are

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thelostartof wrote:
Last time I checked Dinosaurs were pretty big, they lived a nice long life for being as big as they are


Valid point, good sir!

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Embarassed i guess i am not loved.

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