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[SPOILERS]Hey, you guys across the pond...what did you thnk?
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kosmopol
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I'm from Germany. I'm into Cloverfield since July 2007 so I was pretty eager to know, what's going on (and I had to avoid the [spoiler]-marked threads in this forum for torturing 2 weeks).

I've seen the movie and I have to say: It was better, than I imagined before. But it wasn't a cinematographic revolution (it was very impressive, though). I enjoyed the seven months before and of course I also enjoyed
that 85 minutes. But I found the Cloverfield ARE more interesting and addicting than the movie.

Of course, it was the apotheosis of the story, and of course I sympathized to our good old MySpace friends. But the movie itself was like "OK, I've got it, I'll buy DVD and perhaps forget the most scenes", but the ARG/ARE is everlasting in my mind, even because of the whole collective imagination power we used this whole time together.

In German cinema there wasn't many people, and it was really mismanagement in Germany. I predicted it (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24181), because Cloverfield was in US mostly a marketing success. Even if very enigmatic and with less of information. In Germany there was no information, really nothing besides of TV clips and 2-3 paper standees in theaters.

Even in gratis preview cinema magazines - just no word about Cloverfield. This is not a marketing of secretiveness. This is not a marketing at all. So the cinema wasn't really full. Now - the end of first week - Cloverfield has in cinema charts on the 6th place (hehe, that famous number 6).

Anyway, the event of movie premiere was great for me (I couldn't really sleep before that day like in my childhood before X-Mas Day). And I was not disappointed.

The German media critisized the movie mostly because they don't really know about the ARG. I mean, everyone knows, there was something marketing-alike hype and stuff. But the "what" is unknown for the journalists. So they observe the movie like a "new hip and hype monster movie from Hollywood, nothing more".

They don't know the deep dimension behind that movie.

But I try to tell about everything in German Wiki and in my blog. Hope, I can show people, what it IS.

***Sorry for long text. And thank to people, who has read it Smile ***

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caoslayer
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Kon-Foozed wrote:

caoslayer wrote:
This movie reminds me to Cube.


How so? I love that film but didn't get reminded of it at all.


Because the whole premise of "you are there and you don't know nothing".

Cube spoilers:
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Specially also because the movie ends without an explication or a real end and how almost everybody dies


So it was a very disliked movie in mainstream people because seems that they only can enjoy chewed stuff with happy end.

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Schrijvertje wrote:
It can all be summed up in the reaction in the European audience when at the start of the movie, when everyone is running up to the roof, one girl says "Is it another terrorist attack?" or something like that. My audience went: "Oh no, here they go again."

Due to 9/11, it seems American audiences very easily connect the dots toward terrorists attacks. That's only natural, they've had a very traumatic experience.

But the average European audience didn't have that experience and won't think of terrorists as a first suspect.

The majority of movies shown in Europe are American. It can't be ignored that many movies after 9/11 refer to this event, to terrorism, albeit in a symbolic way or in a literal way. Newspapers and television reports deal with this subject a lot, so when it appears in what most people consider to be entertainment, they get this feeling of overkill. That the message is being drilled into their heads, forcefed through their throats like geese getting fattened.

I'm afraid we're heading towards a future where some European audiences will react rather insensitive and start yelling at the US to "shut up already!". Even now forum messages include reactions like "get over it", "move on", "stop whining". That's not a good sign. Because then the real enemies are no longer the target. When the good guys are too busy arguing amongst themselves, the bad guys see their chance. Like the third dog winning the bone.

But who's to blame? Europe for not understanding America's need to express itself in this way? Or America for keeping to express itself in this way?


Y'see, I hate this 9/11 BS too. I'm American, and hell, 9/11 is even just a few days before my birthday, but...call me insensitive, or apathetic, unpatriotic, whatever. I just couldn't care less about 9/11. I'm so over it.
Even when it initially happened. There was the general knowledge that a war would probably start, but I just didn't care.

And that was one thing that pissed me off about some reviews I read. They say it plays off of 9/11, which it doesn't. At all. The film is meant to be realistic. If you live in New York nowadays, if there's an explosion or something similar to that, you ask questions. The terrorist comments were definitely something people would wonder about in a situation like that, and it makes perfect sense to bring up.
Given the type of movie this is, I don't even see the benefit in trying to "play off of 9/11". It couldn't possibly muster up any feelings that would enhance the movie. At least not as far as I see it, but like I said...I'm apathetic towards the whole thing.

It's very good to hear the movie is being well-received overseas. I personally have seen the movie a ridiculous amount of times, and I've bought my share of things off of eBay. I haven't been this intrigued with a movie or had a "hobby" in a while. I'm kind of pissed that I entered the ARE so late, because it appears to be over.
I also feel like I got the best of both worlds, because I had minimal knowledge when I first saw the movie. My first viewing was as someone said earlier...I knew nothing about what was going on except for what I was seeing. Given how much I loved the movie, I came home and read all about it, and I've seen it many more times since my initial viewing. I'd almost say being aware of the ARE only detracts from the movie. On some subsequent viewings, I spent more time looking for clues all around the screen than I did paying attention to the movie. Now I just sit back and enjoy (mainly because I realize we most likely aren't going to find anything new out from the movie until we get some HD footage).

Sorry for the groggy rant, I just woke up not too long ago. Yeah. At 4 PM.

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fredthedeadhead
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My friend has a funny story about when he saw it. At the end of the film, this chavvy girl stood up and shouted in her stupid accent "why the fuck was it called 'Cloverfield'?"

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underwaterdonkey
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fredthedeadhead wrote:
My friend has a funny story about when he saw it. At the end of the film, this chavvy girl stood up and shouted in her stupid accent "why the fuck was it called 'Cloverfield'?"


Aah, chavs. Don't you just love them? With their tracksuits and puffa jackets and their true belief that they're not white and middle-class and are in fact "well gangsta".

Are their chavs in other countries? Because I never see any when I go abroad.
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octaine
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The monster could easily scare the shit out of godzilla... damn that was one ugly motherfucker! I liked it a lot! It reminds me a lot of Idiocracy, another movie I can watch soooo many times and still discover new things...

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Kahran
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I loved the movie even if my expectations was damn high. Been lurking around on the forum and posting a little here and there since very early in the ARE, and it was just so great to finally be able to see the movie here in Norway on Friday. It was everything I wanted it to be and more.

I was damn sceptical about Hud's funny lines as some said they were the only one keeping the story together, but they were delivered great and it was so nice to see someone rather "noname" acting as good as any other "I'm a big star" actor/actress. If the people in Cloverfield doesn't get famous after that movie then I donno what's wrong with the world. They deserve all the credit they can for pulling off such a strange secretcy (is that even a word?) of a movie. Damn if I had played someone there I'd be talking about everything all the time if having the possibility Very Happy

From what it seemed in the cinema pretty many people that was sitting around me said that they liked the movie to someone so I think it was rather nicely recieved in Norway Smile Atleast at the screening I went to see. Smile

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