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 		Re: what can we really offer?
badaim68 wrote:

The real issue is what we tell him about why we want to know? I've gone down the Philly/Petra/Smoke route to no avail. The only thing we have left, that is relevant to the events in St Petes, is regarding the coded ritual found in the Scarpelli library....that would certainly pique his interest....and I don't believe we have any viable alternative at this stage. Views?

I agree that our motive has been the key from the start. I still think that while he has every right to demand "why?" of us, he has not proven that it's in our long-term interest to ally with him. He's been just as cagey about his motives as we have been about ours.

It's beginning to sound like he probably didn't have anything to do with Philly's ritual. That's at least one point in his favor, because that ritual certainly sounded malevolent. But we don't know why he's interested in these subjects in the first place.

Given that we came into this situation because of WF, I'm inclined to continue acting in ways that protect their interest. I think that means keeping them and the Scarpelli document off the table for the moment. How else would we have access to the Scarpelli books except through WF? Up until it was donated to a private non-profit, it was a privately owned collection of documents, not a bunch of books in a public library.

That being said, I think Slider gave us our in. He asked why badaim keeps talking about Philly in the past tense. Well, since badaim already implied that we saw the ritual, why not describe it more fully? Include a lurid description of the blinding light and Philly's collapsed, inert form, the scorching on the matchbook, and the fact that he didn't appear to be breathing. Then reiterate the fact that if he's a loner, it would seem awfully strange that people in an SUV would carry off his body.

Maybe Slider's concern for Philly will carry the day. If not...we can revisit our trump card, the cipher.

So basically: we're curious about the ritual, but we also think something happened to Philly.

Typoxic wrote:
The whole idea, I thought, was to ultimately tie this back to Scarpelli. We should tell him we're trying to trace that document, and that path has now led us to him. It seems like a theme is cropping up in this game: keeping secrets hasn't netted us much success so far. Maybe it's just too early to tell if secrecy would have been the right way to go at any point, but it looks now like it isn't.


Being open hasn't always netted us success. BE wasn't forthcoming just because we were. Telling Ethan had consequences for our relationship with WF. Telling Reality Now anything would've been a horrible mistake. When we did let them know we'd found their website, they made it (slightly) more secure.

The point is we have to decide who to trust.

WF's interest in this case may diverge from our own. They've drawn the line, saying they only want to know how the cipher was placed in the library, who put it there, and why. Clearly we want to know more about the ritual than they do. Slider may have the connections to help us learn more about the ritual, but if Jade and Ethan are right (they said the St. Pete rituals were performed from a different source document), then Slider won't help us get the information WF wants.

On that ground, I think it's best to keep the Scarpelli document secret until we can't.
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 		Sorry guys for taking so long to check in today. Just now catching up and there is something about QS's/Slider's last email that doesn't seem right.

QS wrote:
Young master Phillip is not involved with any groups, nor with any other individuals that I know of. He is a lone walker down the boulevard of life, at least to my observations.

That doesn't quiet fit the description that Petra gave of Philly or at least it doesn't to me.
Petra from different emails wrote:
Everything I know about Philly isn't much. Met him at a bar one night. He was all serious and quiet. We started going around together. Nice enough guy at first, right, but after a while he starts getting moody sometimes. Doesn't drink or use, but smokes like a chimney. Always meeting people. Always being cool. He didn't have a job as far as I could tell so I figured he was either a trust fund kid or he was selling stuff I didn't ask about. And he was into magic. He was always reading books or looking at strange stuff on his computer. I'm not into it, so he didn't get into it much with me.

He hung with some weird people so I'm sure they were involved in whatever happened. He probably just did something stupid and they picked him up and now he's crashing with them.

I couldn't tell you if that chick or whoever had anything to do with what he was doing. I still think it was just one of his stupid friends.

Don't know much about Slider. He'd show up sometimes at parties that Philly would go to. I never knew anyone and he was the only person who would ever say two words to me. I'm pretty sure he was into the stuff too, but he didn't have that same macho thing going on that Philly did.

Maybe I'm just too tired and not thinking straight but who knows?

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Ethan's blog wrote:
That voice again…
Posted on February 6, 2008 by ethangrant

…and it's still not telling me anything useful. Thanks for the comment, Mort. Wish I was feeling warmer myself. Low of around 30 today, and I am just about over it. Why the heck can't I get assigned to check into giant catfish in the Gulf of Mexico? You'd think with all the toxic runoff down there the giant catfish would be crawling right up onto the beach and taking parasail rides (reference: mildly wild spring break quite a few years back). I need to call Jade back anyway, maybe he's got a lead on something odd I can check into down there for the next couple months. There's always Clearwater, but I suppose that is WAY outside the Foundation's charter. (Thank goodness, actually.)

Anyway, after seeing Mort's comment I went back to that last post (actually remembered most of it, that's a plus) and the only bright idea that I got upon looking at it afresh was a clear thought of how much I like Peter Gabriel and, conversely, just how much I do not like Mr. Colins. I fully expect to see Phil and the boys touring through town any day now. (They are considered a washed-up 80's band due for a revival, aren't they? Maybe 70's.) Genesis, sheesh! I say blow your trumpet, Gabriel, and usher in some old-school Revelation on Phil and Co.

(My recuperation seems to have made me a little crabby. I'll have to keep an eye on that…)

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 		I've followed this story from the very beginning, and I thought it was really going well...

And I keep following it, at least once a day...

And I keep wondering what in the world happened...

No more puzzles...

Gobs of speculation...

Just email after email of conversation with IG characters...

What's next...

Is there a "next"...
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 		what the...
I was staring at RN in despair, hitting F5 every few minutes between chatting and researching various things, when I googled devislade (one of the RN usernames). And the clouds opened: http://realitynow.weebly.com/thelist.html

Nope, no updates on what may or may not have gone down tonight. And the dates on this list are pretty old (I'm reeeeally hoping the second one, 041807, is a typo, that they switched the month & day by accident), but at least it's something. So... discuss.

ETA: I agree yellowcard, it's getting very frustrating. Feels like there are lots of crumbs around, we just don't know which ones are worth anything. I was really hoping for a RN update, not old stuff (Google cache says it's been there since Jan. 8 ). We need something big, and we need it soon.

Also, Ethan's posts made me get out my Bible... Revelation only has 22 chapters, and Rev. 4:8 mentions 4 creatures with 6 wings (doesn't seem relevant). Genesis 48 is about Jacob (Israel) blessing two of his grandsons (Joseph's sons, Ephraim and Manasseh) and saying they will each be a great people, but the younger will be greater than the elder. And Gen. 4:8 is where Cain kills Abel, which is the most interesting IMO (but who are the two brothers here?). I forgot about the Gabriel reference, not sure what to do with that yet.

More SPEC: QS puts himself in a triangle and us in a circle. In the Ars Goetia this would make him the summoned demon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lesser_Key_of_Solomon (see the caption to the color pic on the right when you scroll down - and trout as necessary Smile ).
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 		Thought we'd blown it....
...but at least a clue
QS latest:

Please note that when he says "game" he is not referring to TIAG but a comment I made about playing your cards so close to your chest that you lose sight of the game.


Quote:
My Dear Paul,

And I, in turn, must admit to a certain disappointment in your apparent lack of understanding of how substantial chunks of the world work.

Why in Woden's grey earth would I be willing to be more open? I don't know you from Lilith. You arrive on the doorstep to my butler's pantry saying that you were sent by someone whose fume-sickened brain would no more give me the time of day than I would give her $8.50 for a Nicoderm patch, with the assumption that I would be overjoyed to answer all your questions.

Now, I understand that most of what you've said in your last little epistle is intended to push me toward a response beyond the playful banter we've exchanged thus far. Not a bad strategy, even if, as in this case, it is completely misdirected. Luckily, it is my lot in this "game", as you so quaintly put it, to possess a certain clarify of intent, especially as regards certain of the game's players. This is how I know that young master Phillip is fundamentally an asshat (if I may use that rather vulgar colloquialism), and this is how I know that, even with your own "playing it close to the chest" you are fundamentally OK.

Good enough reason to cut my own crap, at least for a while. (smile)

No, Paul, I am not the slightest bit concerned by the scene you relate. Everyone in this game knows the stakes. They may not know all the rules, but it's a sure bet they know the stakes. Those who don't tend to cash out early. Could be the way you tell it, or Philly could have hired himself a little back-up that evening. Just because a person has a reputation for being a reckless loner, doesn't mean that fits of caution don't ride them from time to time. I don't like Philly enough to be genuinely concerned, and perhaps you don't know him well enough to not be, but I am curious. Just generally curious, though, It's my nature.

Ham-fisted jibes aside, I know enough about Philly's game to know that it isn't (or wasn't) my own. And the nature of these games, in the universal sense, whether you are aware of it or not, is that poker players don't generally give a tinker's damn about Monopoly. Or Candy Land. I'm sure you get the point. So no, Paul, my lack of knowledge about what Philly was up to, or what he is into, does not bother me at all. I'm simply not into his scene, nothing more than that.

But perhaps his game is your game. Or maybe you are, on some level, genuinely concerned for him. I've no reason to doubt that you at least "...wish to understand as much as possible about the ritual that Philly was involved with, as well as what he hoped to achieve...", because if you are, in fact, outside the game completely that sort of thing may hold an academic, esoteric appeal. I can respect that.

Whatever all the real reasons may be, it has become apparent that the file Philly gave me one evening some time ago will be of more value to you than it is to me. He is a secretive cuss - aren't we all, as I've said - but even the most secretive may want to guard against dropping off the radar completely (as he, somewhat ironically, seems to have done). "If anything ever happens, there may be some answers here," he said and handed me a thumb drive. I didn't have the heart or the inclination to tell him that I wasn't really interested in whatever answers he might be referring to. There was one file on the drive. It's a .png file, I've no idea of what. I've never opened it. But I've made a copy of it and attached it. Maybe it will tell you some of what you want to know.

So, no deals are necessary, dear Paul. We are all free agents in this little amusement. If you find him, you may pose questions to your pea-picking heart's content. If you ever learn the real story I'd be interested in hearing it, being a sucker for a good story, and all. But that also, of course, is your choice.

Adieu, dear Paul. I sincerely doubt I can be of any more use to you, but my butler's pantry door is always open if you'd care to stop by for a chat.

QS

PS. You never did tell me; What is perfection?



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 		Well done! Sounds like Philly was into the darker stuff and QS was not. The other possibility is that Philly's stuff was a joke (Candyland) and QS is into the serious stuff (poker). I can't tell exactly what QS was implying about his interests. Either he's a good guy, or he's into stuff that's even more dangerous than what Philly was probably up to.

That picture looks like Braille. Braille is written right to left, then turned over and read left to right. So we may have to mirror this to get the right answer. If it's Braille. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille#Letters_and_numbers

Here's my solve, I'd appreciate double-checking and additional approaches.

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I ended up flipping it vertically as well. 11 letters in the top row. 4 in the bottom.

S T J A M E S G U N N
A G J E or 1705

The last row assumes that the dots are placed at the top of the cell. The other possibility is , ( ' CH

In Tampa there's a St. James Crossing Apartment on Gunn Hwy. From online reviews, it sounds like a real shithole: drugs, thugs, and white trash...kind of like a Spears family reunion.

AG and JE could be the initials of who he was working with. However, I think it's more likely to mean Apt. 1705. I dug a little and found that there are apartments in the 1400s and 1600s, so I'm thinking it's definitely 5520 Gunn HYW Apt. 1705.


I sent an email to Jade with QS's reply, the properly exposed image and my speculation. We'll see what he thinks.
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 		[update] new letter at WF Open Cases
http://whitechapelfoundation.org/opencases/?p=3

MSG5
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Background MSG5 (Fifth letter received, 07 Feb 08 )

On Thursday, February 7, 2008, Diane Fulmer, executive assistant in the New York office of the Whitechapel Foundation was preparing to close up the office for the evening when she heard a "thump" on the landing outside the front door of the office. Ms. Fulmer has a feed of the front door's security camera piped to her workstation and, checking this, she discovered that a newspaper was now on the front landing. The Foundation does not receive an afternoon paper.

Ms. Fulmer called for the security guard, who was in the back of the office locking up, and together they retrieved the newspaper from the the front landing. There was no one outside the front of the office. The newspaper was today's edition of the Wall Street Journal and there were no labels or makings on the paper. It was wrapped in a plastic newspaper bag and clearly visible inside the wrapper was a white envelope with the word "Whitechapel" written in what appears to be an orange Sharpie marker. The newspaper had landed in such a way that the envelope was not visible until the newspaper was picked up. Ms. Fulmer and the security guard reviewed the tape of the front landing camera (as well as the other exterior cameras) and the only event of interest that can be seen is the newspaper landing in front of the door, apparently thrown from the street outside of the camera's view.

Ms. Fulmer contacted Mr. Kennedy and Mr. Patel, and they both agreed that she should scan the single page found inside the envelope and post the images to OC:0701 as soon as possible. She did this (having to photograph the letter itself, as the scanner stopped working after scanning the envelope) before leaving the office for the evening, escorted by the security guard.

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Notes - MSG5:

Since the layout of MSG5 is similar in some ways to the layout of MSG4, the Foundation feels that the ominous words in the center of the page are likely an anagram. The Foundation is reserving judgment on next steps until this assumption is either confirmed or disproved.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:06 pm
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 		Top of page embossing reads:
Southworth Linen 25% cotton fiber

As for anagrams
The One Banished
stands out.

The letters with associated lines would form a box style cipher if T and F weren't facing the same corner piece.

As for the hex-like code used on the Blog:
Quote:
e57c09 is a shade of orange
8e2c6a is a shade of mauve (dark purplish wine)
61f925 is a lime green

Mort and myself discussed this line of thought though and feel its a false lead.

I'm still researching.. will update soon
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 		"The Banished One" fits Luke's theory of how the names on MSG3 relate.

The executed one (MSG4): W. Wallace.
The banished one (MSG5): Enlil?

That mean MSG6's hexagon will probably have "the cursed one," Ahasuerus?

Southworth Linen is one of the oldest companies in America, been around since the 1830s.

My email to Ethan wrote:
Hey,
Curious that you'd mention Clearwater. You wouldn't have an interest besides seeing someplace that isn't a frozen, landlocked tundra, would you? Nothing to do with a bay city to the south? St. Petersburg is awfully close...

Your subtle way of asking for an update outside of official channels?

-Mort


Ethan's email wrote:
Hi Mort,

Haha, actually, no. I wish I could say I was that clever these days (if ever). But with the Swine Flu and the new freakin' Little People case and now the new 0701 message, I really hadn't thought much about St. Pete.

Since you mention it, though, on a purely personal, nothing to do with WF, general news, just shooting the breeze kind of level, anything interesting going on?

Ethan


This is via his GMail account, so I'll bring him up to date.
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 		I suppose it's too much to hope for that the MSG5 pencil squares relate to the square of MSG4 somehow. As in, where the I has a line under it and on the right side, it would correspond to FATE, CONFUSION, OWN, and AGAIN to some cryptic end or other. That's the only meaning I can think of for the lines at the moment, but I can't say I've wracked my brain too hard. I'll revisit it tomorrow and see if anything jumps out.

Edit: It may be a coincidence, but the letter with lines around it appears at least once in at least one of the words that it might correspond to. The one that appears the most is "o", which is in "no" and "confusion".

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 		I don't have anything to add to your spec, luke.

I do have emails from Jade.

The two I sent that initiated the dialog.

Mort wrote:
So Paul filled you in on most of the exchange with our dear friend, Quinton.

We decided that we have a couple things we can barter.

First, and what we're least likely to give up: that Scarpelli document stuff, the original source for our knowledge about the St. Pete rituals. Just too messy to let someone know all about our connection to WF when we don't really know who we're dealing with or what his interests are. Given the nature of what the St. Pete rituals might be about--benign things don't usually tell you to "prepare to fear" because you're activating a "beacon"--someone was probably up to no good. If QS was involved in anyway, better safe than sorry.

Second, our scanty knowledge of what happened to the person we assume was Philly. Basically, a description of everything related to the contents of Brighton Early's website, without divulging the source. Again, that's still trusted information and we have no reason to trust QS.

We tried just feeding him the description (said we were in a position to hear rumors of rituals, found evidence at two sites and put the pieces together to arrive at the third in time to see Philly collapse and get dragged off, plus the curiously burned matchbook, then Petra, then Ctrix, etc.), but QS still questioned our motives. He did reply that Philly is a loner when it comes to his magic interests.

So we tried a two-pronged attack. One, we're curious about the nature of the ritual. That's what got us started on this track. So our first motive is magic information. Our second motive has to do with having seen someone who might have been abducted (!) and who definitely looked incapacitated. The latter is to appeal to QS's better nature (if he has one). A friend, or at least an acquaintance of his, appears to be or have been in danger of physical harm. And it seems awfully weird for a loner to get carted off by people conveniently stationed in an SUV. And given what we know from Petra, if something to do with magic is the cause, then he should at least be a little bit curious about whatever Philly was trying to do in the first place.

If that doesn't work, we'll have to re-evaluate our decision to keep the Scarpelli document a secret.

Thoughts?

-Mort


Anyway, progress!

Quote:
The last email from QS



Attached is a copy of the image. It looks like Braille. Flipping it horizontally and vertically puts it in what looks like a proper orientation, 11 characters on top, 4 on the bottom. My translation reads:
STJAMESGUNN
A G J E or 1705 (the first 10 characters of the Braille alphabet double as letters and numbers)

A little research showed a shithole apartment complex in Tampa called St. James Crossing on Gunn Hwy. 1705 could be the apartment number where he went after leaving Petra. Alternatively, AG and JE are initials of whoever he was crashing with. If you get a chance, maybe you could scope it out.

-Mort


Jade wrote:
Hey Mort,

Thoughts? The first one that springs to mind is that is it just so much easier beating the hell out of people. Wink In a good-natured way, of course.

Magical people are such a strange lot. I've known a couple in my day. Not to say that there was any real magic involved, but the people I've known who are serious - and not just flaky - truly do believe in the self-transformative power of what they do and, I suppose to some degree, the power to transform "the external". All of which tends to result in some pretty secretive, pretty pompous people who can be really, really hard to get a fix on. As the dean of cyberpunk once said, "motivation, that's your bugaboo." Or something in that general vein. Probably applies to the Fop in spades.

So good luck. I am probably not the person to advise on finesse and gamesmanship, as I tend toward the more direct approach. Very Happy If you find out where this Salamander is, maybe I should pay him a visit... Wink

More soon,
Jade

Oh look, another note from Mort! Wish I'd seen this one a minute ago. Very Happy No wait, it's a note from the Dandy, maybe a little less dandified than he wishes to appear. (No real surprise there, huh?)

Cute. I'm telling ya, these kids with their puzzles and secrets. So Philly gave QS a file with a bunch of little white dots on it? What's the point in that? Flipped and flipped? What obfuscation these cats will get up to. I guess old Philly kinda misunderstood the nature of his friendship with dear Foppy McPomp, the baronet of BS. Doesn't seem like he had any intention of looking for any answers at the cryptic locale. What's he mean with all these references to "games"?

Well, I'm familiar with Gunn Highway and a quick little search shows me where St. James Crossing is; so sure, I'll take a run by there. Your 1705 seems to make the most sense, but I'll keep an eye peeled for building letters too.

Anything else I should know? Any other info from QS about what one might expect to find there? Should I be packin' heat? Wink Do you know any spells I should have at the ready? Very Happy

Hit me with any other briefing info as soon as you see this, 'cause I'll try to head over there this weekend if I can.

More soon,
Jade


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Mort wrote:
Yeah, bring whatever heat you can comfortably conceal and use. Don't know about spells, tho. Wink

From what I've found, that place is a serious shithole. Drugs, thugs and white trash. Like a Spears family reunion... cough. But that's just the general area, nothing to do with Philly's shenanigans.

QS was mum about any other details. What you know, we know.

Oh, the whole games angle...our approach was to call him on "playing his hand close to his vest." So he picked up on our poker reference and ran with it. He needs a gardener to prune his overgrown metaphors...

We probably won't have much else to do with him.

Thanks for being our eyes and ears on the ground. Much appreciated.

-Mort.

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 		Wow, guys what a time for everyone to not be on skype tonight. Smoke showed up and I was totally unprepared. Here's the what I got.
Quote:
[8:58:52 PM] capnomantrix says: ?
[8:59:57 PM] Sylvia says: forest green
[9:00:04 PM] capnomantrix says: yes or no
[9:00:45 PM] Sylvia says: is Philly at 1705 St. James Gunn?
[9:01:02 PM] capnomantrix says: no
[9:02:24 PM] Sylvia says: is Philly at 1705 St. James Crossing?

needless to say she disconnected

Guys I am so stumped on this new puzzle it isn't funny. I can't find anything that looks like it anywhere to give me anything to go on. And I don't know about the St. James Gunn thing. Can't tell if we should go with the address or not. If it's an address, who would we contact. I'll ask Petra about it. But if QS and Petra both don't care where he is then I don't know of anyone else we can contact. I mean why would Jade go looking for someone he doesn't even know. Well, strike that part, I just saw mort's email.
There is a James Gunn who was a Knight's Templar, but not in 1705, from Clan Gunn

I don't think the odd comments have anything to do with hex for colors cause that would leave a lone letter or number from each group and those colors are not on our Crayola list.

Also, I was curious about Ethan's new assignment and sent him the following email.
Sylvia to Ethan wrote:
Hi Ethan,

It's been awhile. Glad your feeling better. I've heard it's been a very bad flu. All the schools around here had to close down because it got so bad.

Sorry I don't have any new info for you on the open cases. But you've peeked my interest about the fairy rings. What kind of assignment did you get? How did Whitechapel come up with a case on fairy rings. Actually, that's a very interesting subject. I would love to hear more from you about it. I've heard that "fairy rings are doors into the fairies' world, transporting people to other places or making people appear in the same place in a different time." I'm sure the rest of the gang would love to know more about this too. Can you share with us?

TTYL
Sylvia

After I sent it, I forgot that I wanted to ask him something else about Clearwater so I sent another email.
Sylvia to Ethan wrote:

Ethan

Sorry to bother you again but I forgot to ask you about something else in my last email about the fairy rings. Just what is in Clearwater that is "WAY outside the Foundation's charter?"

Thanks
Sylvia


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OK, comrade, we'll see how it goes. Actually looking forward to going over there, glad to be able to contribute something since I don't generally have the "right stuff" (or maybe more like the "right interest") to attack the puzzles and the social engineering. Got all that out of my system when I was a private dick (and let's all refrain from the obvious, OK Wink ).

Gotcha on the games ref. I asked 'cause I recalled a bleary-eyed conversation I had one time (pretty sure it was in a bowling alley over exceptional burgers and vanilla Coke) with a dude who was unhealthily interested in chaos. Remembered him saying, "Yeah, I'm down with Spare, man. I just don't dig on Crowley's game." I have remembered that all these years for the sheer, uncompromising, goofiness of it. Can't remember the guy's name, but I'll take that stupid quote to my grave. Very Happy

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 		email from Ethan about the fairy rings and the Clearwater thing. See my post above for my emails to him.

Ethan to Sylvia wrote:
Hi Sylvia,

Thanks for the well wishes, that's very nice.

Oh, this is just a normal Foundation case. Can't get into too many of the personal details (I'm sure you understand), but the long and short of it is that several different people in Arkansas have reported seeing what we are classifying as Fairy Rings. Not the circle of mushrooms, as we sometimes think of them - although in one of the cases the ring did end up having a ring of mushrooms grown in exactly the same location a couple days later. The rings I'm checking on are rings of footprints in the morning dew and, separately, a circle of beaten down grass, "as if a bunch of people were dancing around in a circle".

No photos or video (surprise). I'm trying to stay objective (I always try), but it sounds to me like maybe a bunch of people were simply dancing around in a circle. The strange thing is that the reporters all say that there are no tracks or footprints or trodden grass leading to or from the circles.

We'll see,

Ethan

Dancing in circles, sounds ritualy.
Ethan to Sylvia wrote:
Hi Sylvia,

No bother. Sorry, didn't mean to be overly mysterious on that point. Scientology has a very large presence in Clearwater, FL. Interesting stuff, no doubt, but we stay clear of that one.

Regards,
Ethan

Oddly, do a little research on Scientology and you will end up right back to Alister Crowley.

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