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[SPEC] Sleeping Princess == cryogenic storage?
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Lutzie
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Within, she noticed what looked like a chip of precious ruby from the Queen's crown, no bigger than a fly. Around it lay many broken blocks from the ruined castle, scattered across a wide plain of lodestone. Instead of carrying them with her, she scratched the ruby and each of the greater blocks with her knife, marking it as part of her Queen's domain. Continuing on her quest, she spied another chip of precious stone, this time a sapphire no bigger than a winged ant, glinting the cobbles of the courtyard before the walls of the Inner Keep.


I must say that is it rather interesting. The "she" is the Widow.

Hmm...

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 		I did a bit of digging on the astronomical hypothesis. What intrigued me was that they referred to the sapphire as the size of a winged ant.

So I looked at the carpenter ant, one of the most common ants in N. America, and the fruit fly, one of the most common flies in the same.

A winged ant (a male or queen) can get as big as 25mm long.
A fly can get as big as 9mm, or a bit under half as big.

Earth (a blue planet) is 6,378 km in radius.
Mars (a red planet) is 3,397 km in radius.

The sizes are a little off, but there might be a 2:1 ratio, if we squint, that suggests that the ruby MIGHT be Mars. Lodestone is a high-iron stone; Mars is red because of its high-iron content. Phobos and Deimos are believed to be captured asteroids in orbit, but not much is known. They're of low density, and don't seem to have much iron, but are believed to have water.

So if the Widow had to pass beyond Mars to get to Earth, that suggests a point of arrival out beyond Mars, but not beyond the asteroid belt? I dunno, this gets into the realm of wild-as-heck-spec.

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Lutzie wrote:

I must say that is it rather interesting. The "she" is the Widow.

Hmm...


Well, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a male 'widow', at least in the literal sense.

The Widow's Journey story is, quite obviously, a more metaphorical ("fairy tale") retelling of the SPDR's Computer Text.

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GEM

A graphical user interface developed by Digital Research that is built into personal computers made by Atari, and is also used as an interface for some DOS programs. Like the Macintosh interface and Microsoft Windows, GEM provides a windowed environment for running programs.

GEM also refers to a special graphics file format used in GEM-based applications.


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GEM - One of the first commercially available GUIs. Borrowing heavily from the Macintosh WIMP-style interface it was available for both the IBM compatible market (being packaged with Amstrad's original PC series) and more successfully for the Atari ST range. The PC version was produced by Digital Research (more famous for DR-DOS, their MS-DOS clone), and was not developed very far. The Atari version, however, continued to be developed until the early 1990s and the later versions supported 24-bit colour modes, full colour icons and a nice looking sculpted 3D interface.


It's a REALLY long stretch at best.... but I figured It should be posted anyway.

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 		Never thought I would actually get involved, past reading the updates and speculation, but I haven't found anything mentioned about this. My search led me to this post.

After reading the transcripts of the Axon messages, and looking around some, I came up with this idea:

Perhaps the whole point of this game is to introduce a secondary, as yet unheard of, character/entity in Halo 2? Jan is obviously some form of enhanced human, or a spartan even. (Surviving a long fall, disappearing completely, "Is that an ASSAULT RIFLE...") Perhaps the SP is Jan, interacting with us while in some form of suspended animation, and Melissa/The Queen (if in fact they are the same) is her AI. Her dislike/distrust of Melissa may come from her being a young, immature Spartan (17 I believe.) No "teenager" wants to be placed under the rule of rhyme and reason. Which, Melissa would be.

Complete speculation I know. And I'm sure I'll get hit with some form of aquatic animal. But I felt I had to share this. Sorry I'm not registered, or that I'm not participating actively in the game.

Moderators: I did perform a search, if this topic has been discussed, I apologize.

Comments can be addressed to: bmrtx78SPLAThotmail.com

Thanks!

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 		Re: [SPEC] Sleeping Princess == cryogenic storage?
Festinate wrote:
Forgive me if this has been mentioned before; a quick search didn't turn up anything, so I thought I'd post it...

In the Story section, the Sleeping Princess is described as sleeping in a glass coffin in the deepest dungeon of the castle. Also, the recipient of the lovebees777 emails (Pious Flea? Sleeping Princess?) says that s/he is "some kid who wants to get noticed, very clever an instigator an innocent bystander stored in an airtight container in the deepest and darkest Sleeping casket in a chamber of the dungeon."

Now, besides the obvious folklore references, it might be useful to note that, in Halo 1, the order which Cortana gives to awaken the protagonist is: "Unseal the hushed casket." The ship has two cryogenic storage bays, each with multiple person-sized "caskets" for placing people in suspended animation. Perhaps the "Sleeping Princess" refers to an actual person, Spartan or otherwise, in cold storage?


Quite some time ago I floated the Halsey Timeline Theory which spec'd that SP = the Spartan Kelly in Cryo. It's been thoroughly disproven, but there are revisions and a long discussion of the connections between Haloverse and ILB here.

There's a more specific Princess discussion here, which also recounts the cryopod theory in general.

Remember, though, that SP was just identified as a process by Flea ... so she's probably an AI. It's possible the cryopod references are metaphorical.

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