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[Spec][Spoilers] More Than 1 "Mother Monsters"?
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fenix
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A LOT of you seem to think that there is only one monster, so I decided to sign up and prove you wrong. Me and a friend have been going over the film heavily for the last week or so, and have come up with some pretty solid proof that there is more than one monster. First of which, J.J. Abrams made Lost, so the fact that the monsters look different sizes is not just a mistake or to make the shot right. You have to agree that he does weird things like that on purpose, like the Lost story still being almost impossible to guess even after 5 seasons.

Anyway, I'll just post the pictures for now, and I'll wall-o-text you guys later. Here is how there is obviously more than 1 monster (aside from the blatantly obvious size differences):

The monster that is shown through the movie, and was hit by the airstrike, has a 3 fingered hand, as shown below (pic borrowed from another thread).




This one, which attacked Hud, clearly has a claw for an arm. There is NO way it can be the same one.




I believe this calls for a reopening of the case?

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Mr. GrumpyPantz
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xboyonfirex wrote:
Cannon wrote:
Spandyrules wrote:
Am I the only one that got the sense that MGP was following HUD and crew around? Also, it's strange to me that people are saying how absurd it is for the monster to be in so many places in so little time and not question how HUD and crew are doing the same. If anything, it's Rob and his friends that are teleporting around the city in between scenes.
*facepalm*
the movie is 90 minutes, the event is about six hours, wouldnt it make sense if it was cut a little bit?
you cant put six hours in 90 minutes.


did you eventually ask yourself what kind of movie would it be if the monster DIDN'T follow them everywhere?
dude if you payed attention i was talking about how he thought they got to places so fast, not how come the monster was almost everywhere they were.

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fenix wrote:
A LOT of you seem to think that there is only one monster, so I decided to sign up and prove you wrong. Me and a friend have been going over the film heavily for the last week or so, and have come up with some pretty solid proof that there is more than one monster. First of which, J.J. Abrams made Lost, so the fact that the monsters look different sizes is not just a mistake or to make the shot right. You have to agree that he does weird things like that on purpose, like the Lost story still being almost impossible to guess even after 5 seasons.

Anyway, I'll just post the pictures for now, and I'll wall-o-text you guys later. Here is how there is obviously more than 1 monster (aside from the blatantly obvious size differences):

The monster that is shown through the movie, and was hit by the airstrike, has a 3 fingered hand, as shown below (pic borrowed from another thread).




This one, which attacked Hud, clearly has a claw for an arm. There is NO way it can be the same one.






I believe this calls for a reopening of the case?


wow thats really making me reconsider....

*plus....when the monster attacks the chopper, if you freeze on the face....it looks way diff...id get a screenshot but i got a camera blurry bootleg..ill try though

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dan_pckns
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McLovin wrote:
one monster. When he was in the city and they went to the bridge alot of time had passed....


I thought I was at least the only who paid attention to that. After the first attack when everyone decides to go the bridge. You see how far the bridge is from where they were walking. Then it skips to where they are already on the bridge. A lot of time has passed during that walk.

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fenix wrote:
A LOT of you seem to think that there is only one monster, so I decided to sign up and prove you wrong. Me and a friend have been going over the film heavily for the last week or so, and have come up with some pretty solid proof that there is more than one monster. First of which, J.J. Abrams made Lost, so the fact that the monsters look different sizes is not just a mistake or to make the shot right. You have to agree that he does weird things like that on purpose, like the Lost story still being almost impossible to guess even after 5 seasons.

Anyway, I'll just post the pictures for now, and I'll wall-o-text you guys later. Here is how there is obviously more than 1 monster (aside from the blatantly obvious size differences):

The monster that is shown through the movie, and was hit by the airstrike, has a 3 fingered hand, as shown below (pic borrowed from another thread).




This one, which attacked Hud, clearly has a claw for an arm. There is NO way it can be the same one.




I believe this calls for a reopening of the case?


Uh, man,. that's really weak. You can't see the end of that appendage. How about showing us a shot of the things other arm when Hud first turns around to see it where you can clearly see it's the same sort of arm as the other one?

What you're seeing there is it's forearm.
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fenix
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Caerwiden wrote:
fenix wrote:
A LOT of you seem to think that there is only one monster, so I decided to sign up and prove you wrong. Me and a friend have been going over the film heavily for the last week or so, and have come up with some pretty solid proof that there is more than one monster. First of which, J.J. Abrams made Lost, so the fact that the monsters look different sizes is not just a mistake or to make the shot right. You have to agree that he does weird things like that on purpose, like the Lost story still being almost impossible to guess even after 5 seasons.

Anyway, I'll just post the pictures for now, and I'll wall-o-text you guys later. Here is how there is obviously more than 1 monster (aside from the blatantly obvious size differences):

The monster that is shown through the movie, and was hit by the airstrike, has a 3 fingered hand, as shown below (pic borrowed from another thread).




This one, which attacked Hud, clearly has a claw for an arm. There is NO way it can be the same one.




I believe this calls for a reopening of the case?


Uh, man,. that's really weak. You can't see the end of that appendage. How about showing us a shot of the things other arm when Hud first turns around to see it where you can clearly see it's the same sort of arm as the other one?

What you're seeing there is it's forearm.


Then explain why, on that monsters arm there is a claw, whereas in the shot where it is hit by the carpet bomb, the SAME arm has 3 fingers. Explain that?

Also, if I brighten up the image, you can CLEARLY see holes through the arm, like on a crab's claw, where the two halves join. You are grasping at straws if you think that there is only one monster, because there clearly isn't.

For your information, there is NO clear shot of the monsters left arm when it attacks Hud, it only shows the shoulder and upper arm, not the forearm, which is the claw.

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fenix wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
fenix wrote:
A LOT of you seem to think that there is only one monster, so I decided to sign up and prove you wrong. Me and a friend have been going over the film heavily for the last week or so, and have come up with some pretty solid proof that there is more than one monster. First of which, J.J. Abrams made Lost, so the fact that the monsters look different sizes is not just a mistake or to make the shot right. You have to agree that he does weird things like that on purpose, like the Lost story still being almost impossible to guess even after 5 seasons.

Anyway, I'll just post the pictures for now, and I'll wall-o-text you guys later. Here is how there is obviously more than 1 monster (aside from the blatantly obvious size differences):

The monster that is shown through the movie, and was hit by the airstrike, has a 3 fingered hand, as shown below (pic borrowed from another thread).




This one, which attacked Hud, clearly has a claw for an arm. There is NO way it can be the same one.




I believe this calls for a reopening of the case?


Uh, man,. that's really weak. You can't see the end of that appendage. How about showing us a shot of the things other arm when Hud first turns around to see it where you can clearly see it's the same sort of arm as the other one?

What you're seeing there is it's forearm.


Then explain why, on that monsters arm there is a claw, whereas in the shot where it is hit by the carpet bomb, the SAME arm has 3 fingers. Explain that?

Also, if I brighten up the image, you can CLEARLY see holes through the arm, like on a crab's claw, where the two halves join. You are grasping at straws if you think that there is only one monster, because there clearly isn't.

For your information, there is NO clear shot of the monsters left arm when it attacks Hud, it only shows the shoulder and upper arm, not the forearm, which is the claw.


Like Caerwiden said: You can't see the end of the arm, i.e. the hand. How can you say it's a claw if you can't see it? And even just going by the picture, it doesn't look at all like a claw. Not even a little. (I'm assuming you mean kind of like Gigan in my avatar)

Just follow the number of joints in the top left pic and in the bottom one. You'll find that they match up, with the last joint in the bottom pic leading to the same hand in the top pics.

(Also, I think it's funny that people still believe there are multiple monsters.....chuckle, chuckle.....)

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Now we're saying that there's two monsters attacking the city?

What, the news coverage forgot to say that another monster was attacking at same time?

C'mon.

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Lighten the picture all you want, the fact of the matter is it's the same arm from the same creature. The joints are exactly the same.

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fenix wrote:
You are grasping at straws if you think that there is only one monster, because there clearly isn't.


It's this part that makes me laugh the most.

"Grasping at straws"?! Laughing Really? I find it hard to believe that you actually think there are multiple monsters and are not just putting it out as a theory at least. In which case it would still be unfounded, by the way.

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fenix wrote:
You are grasping at straws if you think that there is only one monster, because there clearly isn't.




You Fail Buddy

Same monster, its got three joints so what you think is a claw is the beginning of its hand
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Let me just just say, you do have clear pictures especially the hand pics, but your proving point is way off. Like Mr Mania said the reporter on the news could've not forgotten to add in "There's another monster attacking in some other part of Manhattan!"

I like the idea of it being two, for the whole idea of it being a "baby" looking for mother or whatever. But this movie/footage showed one monster causing all the ruckus.

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Bang Head

Although this has been fun, it's one monster. Those photos prove nothing. And the speculative points associated with those pics...are just off base.

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Fignut the Elder wrote:
Bang Head

Although this has been fun, it's one monster. Those photos prove nothing. And the speculative points associated with those pics...are just off base.

False, these photos prove that fenix is an idiot.
I'm going to go take some photos of me and have the camera cut off my arm. With any luck, when i'm done i will have a claw. I will post pics.

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fenix
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Firstly, I don't mean claw like a bear, I mean claw like a crab, except thinner and longer.

Possibly the reason that the news report says one monster, is the same reason the military said one monster. They didn't know there was more than one. When you have one the size of the monster in the carpet bomb shot, then you aren't going to be noticing MUCH smaller one walking through Central Park.

The reason I showed pictures of this, was because the arms were clearly not the same. I'm not even getting into the fact that the one that destroys the bridge is even larger than the one in the carpet bomb shot. You guys are being too close-minded. There are too many differences between the shots for it to just be inconsistencies.

The point being, since I've only just seen it, and not wasted my time over the last couple of months trying to drag information from the movie, I don't have a set view in my head that is clouding the truth. You'll all be hemming and hawing when Cloverfield 2 comes out and says "There's the monster, OH WAIT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER THERE".


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False, these photos prove that fenix is an idiot.
I'm going to go take some photos of me and have the camera cut off my arm. With any luck, when i'm done i will have a claw. I will post pics.


Firstly, you're an ass. I get your point, you think the picture is bad. The point is, the arm structure is EXACTLY what I was taking a picture of. It is nothing like the other shot, being that the forearm has the jagged gaps where the 2 halves of the claw would meet, similar to a crab.

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