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[Spec][Spoilers] More Than 1 "Mother Monsters"?
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pegassissy
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Dont you think someone would have said that there are two of them? Maybe the general wouldve said something, or really anybody.

But the most compelling evidence comes from applying real life common sence to IM (in-movie) story.

When in the electronics store, there is quite a bit of time that HUD spends gazing at the television screen. The news result never says anything about multiple monsters, and this would have been a major topic. They would have mentioned it, plus the tag line
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some thing has found us

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Mr. GrumpyPantz
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I love how it puts emphasis on THING in the tag line as if they knew some one was going to post a topic saying there was more than one monster.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:31 pm
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fenix
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Well, the movie is obviously giving hints throughout to what is happening, although very vague at times. I figure that the next movie will most likely have a big twist where there is actually more than one monster. I mean, if one big one has been sitting at the bottom of the deepest seas for THOUSANDS of years, there's probably going to be others somewhere.

I am sure that JJ and friends have put in small hints throughout the movie, in the form of these 'inconsistencies' between shots, so that when you see the 2nd movie, you can look back on Cloverfield and say "ohh, it was so obvious!".

Also, reading the article about the team who did the design for the city, they were harping on about how much effort they put into the detail. Pretty sure they wouldn't just make simple mistakes like having the monster look different sizes, or have a different shaped arm.

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suckaH
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fenix wrote:
Firstly, I don't mean claw like a bear, I mean claw like a crab, except thinner and longer.

Possibly the reason that the news report says one monster, is the same reason the military said one monster. They didn't know there was more than one. When you have one the size of the monster in the carpet bomb shot, then you aren't going to be noticing MUCH smaller one walking through Central Park.

The reason I showed pictures of this, was because the arms were clearly not the same. I'm not even getting into the fact that the one that destroys the bridge is even larger than the one in the carpet bomb shot. You guys are being too close-minded. There are too many differences between the shots for it to just be inconsistencies.

The point being, since I've only just seen it, and not wasted my time over the last couple of months trying to drag information from the movie, I don't have a set view in my head that is clouding the truth. You'll all be hemming and hawing when Cloverfield 2 comes out and says "There's the monster, OH WAIT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER THERE".


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False, these photos prove that fenix is an idiot.
I'm going to go take some photos of me and have the camera cut off my arm. With any luck, when i'm done i will have a claw. I will post pics.


Firstly, you're an ass. I get your point, you think the picture is bad. The point is, the arm structure is EXACTLY what I was taking a picture of. It is nothing like the other shot, being that the forearm has the jagged gaps where the 2 halves of the claw would meet, similar to a crab.

Yeah i was being an ass. But honestly, you can't post that pic and state that it's all too obvious that it's a claw. I can see how it COULD possibly be a claw, but it could just as well be the joint to his wrist that leads to his hands. They are some weird ass hands after all.

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fenix
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suckaH wrote:
fenix wrote:
Firstly, I don't mean claw like a bear, I mean claw like a crab, except thinner and longer.

Possibly the reason that the news report says one monster, is the same reason the military said one monster. They didn't know there was more than one. When you have one the size of the monster in the carpet bomb shot, then you aren't going to be noticing MUCH smaller one walking through Central Park.

The reason I showed pictures of this, was because the arms were clearly not the same. I'm not even getting into the fact that the one that destroys the bridge is even larger than the one in the carpet bomb shot. You guys are being too close-minded. There are too many differences between the shots for it to just be inconsistencies.

The point being, since I've only just seen it, and not wasted my time over the last couple of months trying to drag information from the movie, I don't have a set view in my head that is clouding the truth. You'll all be hemming and hawing when Cloverfield 2 comes out and says "There's the monster, OH WAIT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE OVER THERE".


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False, these photos prove that fenix is an idiot.
I'm going to go take some photos of me and have the camera cut off my arm. With any luck, when i'm done i will have a claw. I will post pics.


Firstly, you're an ass. I get your point, you think the picture is bad. The point is, the arm structure is EXACTLY what I was taking a picture of. It is nothing like the other shot, being that the forearm has the jagged gaps where the 2 halves of the claw would meet, similar to a crab.

Yeah i was being an ass. But honestly, you can't post that pic and state that it's all too obvious that it's a claw. I can see how it COULD possibly be a claw, but it could just as well be the joint to his wrist that leads to his hands. They are some weird ass hands after all.


Well the point is, the other shots of the arm didn't have a forearm that looked anything like that. I upped the brightness in photoshop and you can clearly see gaps in the arm, that go through to the sky behind, as if the joins were not closed fully (if it was a claw). This wasn't in any of the other shots, in any form.

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econaz02
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fenix

Dont waste your time man. Most of the people on here dont want to hear that there is a possibility of another monster.

Stop being hypocrytes saying there is only one monster when you dont know for a FACT. We will all have to wait till another movie or more proof.

Do you think they would say "O yeah there is more then one Monster" and ruin there Sequel? Its J.J. Abrams he likes to keep you guessing if you didnt know that by now.

Shit its just like saying there is only one God. Many people believe in many other things. Doesnt mean your right because you believe your right. Take some time and reflect on that.

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The news result never says anything about multiple monsters


Its not like they did a E-True Hollywood story on the fucking thing. They were reporting sparaticly just to get the news out. Its a huge Monster yes. When you see something like that you wouldnt sit there and go "Yeah that has 2 eyes gray skin red lung things." No, you would be running for your life. Not counting Monsters.

Did anyone ever go out on a limb and think hmmm maybe the monster "mother" or "Father" was going in to check if the area was safe and the child would sit back and relax and hide and wait till it was safe to come out? Maybe the Monster who attacked Hud was a child and reacted off of the instinct of fear?

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pegassissy
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econaz02 wrote:
Its not like they did a E-True Hollywood story on the fucking thing. They were reporting sparaticly just to get the news out. Its a huge Monster yes. When you see something like that you wouldnt sit there and go "Yeah that has 2 eyes gray skin red lung things." No, you would be running for your life. Not counting Monsters.

If there were multiple monsters it couldnt have been more than two, and saying there are two things attacking the city is 3 seconds tops.

Again, i repeat:
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Some THING has found us

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And then the nurse comes round and everyone will lift their heads
But I'm thinking of what Sarah said, "Love is watching someone die"
So who's going to watch you die?...


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econaz02 wrote:

Shit its just like saying there is only one God. Many people believe in many other things. Doesnt mean your right because you believe your right. Take some time and reflect on that.


You are a moron. Surprised Just so you know.

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suckaH
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econaz02 wrote:
fenix

Dont waste your time man. Most of the people on here dont want to hear that there is a possibility of another monster.

Stop being hypocrytes saying there is only one monster when you dont know for a FACT. We will all have to wait till another movie or more proof.

Do you think they would say "O yeah there is more then one Monster" and ruin there Sequel? Its J.J. Abrams he likes to keep you guessing if you didnt know that by now.

Shit its just like saying there is only one God. Many people believe in many other things. Doesnt mean your right because you believe your right. Take some time and reflect on that.

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The news result never says anything about multiple monsters


Its not like they did a E-True Hollywood story on the fucking thing. They were reporting sparaticly just to get the news out. Its a huge Monster yes. When you see something like that you wouldnt sit there and go "Yeah that has 2 eyes gray skin red lung things." No, you would be running for your life. Not counting Monsters.

Did anyone ever go out on a limb and think hmmm maybe the monster "mother" or "Father" was going in to check if the area was safe and the child would sit back and relax and hide and wait till it was safe to come out? Maybe the Monster who attacked Hud was a child and reacted off of the instinct of fear?

Wow...you're really going to compare religion and a movie? That's bold. And stupid i might add.
You say it like we are the close-minded ones that don't want to accept this as a possibility. In fact, YOU people are the close-minded ones, completely ignoring every fact that there is one in an attempt to feel different. The "two monsters" look exactly the same, respond exactly the same, the tag line refers to them as one, the news report refers to them as one, every time we are shown the monster there is one, the toy is only one....face it, THERE'S ONLY ONE MONSTER.

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econaz02
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There could be one there could be more than one. I never said im 100% dead on that there is more than one. I have a opinion. Im just staying I believe there is more than one but who knows maybe its just one.

Take time and read before you answer with your idiot responses.

Im refering to just how some believe there is one god some believe there is more than one god. Polytheism. But who knows who is right. There is no proof if there is one god or not. IE there is no SOLID PROOF that can show you there is more than one monster or there is only one.

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Some THING has found us


Shut up you tool.

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econaz02 wrote:
There could be one there could be more than one. I never said im 100% dead on that there is more than one. I have a opinion. Im just staying I believe there is more than one but who knows maybe its just one.

Take time and read before you answer with your idiot responses.

Im refering to just how some believe there is one god some believe there is more than one god. Polytheism. But who knows who is right. There is no proof if there is one god or not. IE there is no SOLID PROOF that can show you there is more than one monster or there is only one.

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Ah...that explains it.

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econaz02 wrote:
There could be one there could be more than one. I never said im 100% dead on that there is more than one. I have a opinion. Im just staying I believe there is more than one but who knows maybe its just one.

Take time and read before you answer with your idiot responses.

Im refering to just how some believe there is one god some believe there is more than one god. Polytheism. But who knows who is right. There is no proof if there is one god or not. IE there is no SOLID PROOF that can show you there is more than one monster or there is only one.

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Some THING has found us


Shut up you tool.





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fenix
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econaz02 is right. You guys can't prove that there is only one monster without overlooking the discrepancies in the monster design. Also, I can't PROVE that there is two, because there isn't absolute evidence. Because there can be a solid argument for each, then there is obviously more to this than "there is one monster, end of story". Every think that with all the quotes about the 'monster', they are only referring to one of them? Mainly, the biggest most filmed one? Because throughout the movie, the focus is on it, and with all the explosions and running about, I imagine it could be very easy to overlook a much smaller monster (which killed Hud) lurking around a park.

Furthermore, the more I see Cloverfield, the more I think that the bridge wasn't destroyed by the same monster which is shot throughout the movie. The size just doesn't fit, it wasn't THAT huge.

Until there is more solid evidence, I'm sticking by the fact that because of the differences, there will be more than one monster in the 2nd movie, as a 'surprise twist', although it won't be much of a surprise at that point...

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econaz02 wrote:
Shut up you tool.


Don't you mean, "Shut UP you tool"?

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pegassissy
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Finally there is something good to talk/argue about.

Again, prove this wrong:

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some THING has found us


When i hear a good responce to that i will cmopletely shut up and i will not post in this thread again.

Also, Hasbro just revealed the cloverfield monster didnt they? If there was more than one MGP, would we have not gotten two figurines?

econaz02 wrote:
Shut up you tool


Thats your defense? WOW, you know what, ill say it one more time just for you econaz02, even though it is getting annoying:

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some THING has found us


Edit to add: And most religions think that there is one deity: Catholic, all forms of Christianity, Muslim, and Jewish. Thats like 75% of the population, like 90% not including atheists.
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But I'm thinking of what Sarah said, "Love is watching someone die"
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