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[mr.judkins]

I'm also of the opinion that Stuartfield isn't the location we're looking for (that instead it's the OTHER important site the same distance from Stephenville, as per the podcast).

And that 6 degrees north of due east has been nagging me too, Mogeee. I notice the people who have been using those bearing on flat maps have been ending up in Wales (hence the unpronounceable placenames).

As for your second thought - I find it interesting that as Cardiff is its capital city, Ariadne herself is also in Wales... perhaps we need to direct her?

And with that I'm finally off to sleep!

[riquardo]

Great work Ranger D (and also everyone)! And welcome to the forums Banana9 Another portuguese in da house!!

[AUZ505]

I still totally confused regarding how to deal with the directions. Even if we would have to go straight east (90 degree) it is for me still not clear what is meant.

1) Always going to the east direction which means small updated as you move along the earth which will lead to a trajectory parallel to the lines of latitude. That is like always looking at the compass.

2) Start in the east direction but keep a straight line. This will lead to a totally different place. This is like looking once on the compass and then never again. This is for example used for this calculator: http://williams.best.vwh.net/gccalc.htm
If you set a course of 90 degree you will end up somewhere before the portugal coast.

You can easily see the later effect, if you use Google Earth. Then start from one place (e.g. Stephenville) and just press the right arrow on your keyboard. You can see how the arrow pointing to the north drifts away. (if you are not updating the nort direction you will end up near Portugal)

[Tenchizard]

Ok, I just found this web which lets you draw a ring around a point using GPS. I did input the coordinates of Stephenville (48º33"N, 58º33"W), and a ring radius of 3768 km (the stadion distance), and the result is this:
map only available for a short time
If the map doesnt work is because the link has expired and I didn't create an account in that place yet.

So, if this map is accurate, we should know the possible line of destinations... now, if someone tells me how to accurately find the angle we need from Stephenville...

UPDATED EDIT: If you do the same for Stuartville (57.49N 2.05W), with a ring of 110km... both circles have one point in UK in common: Arbroath

[HitsHerMark]

[FMG]

[Qvist]

Assuming that the circumference of the earth is 40,000 km and the earth is a perfect sphere, spherical trigonometry says the following:

east = arcsin( sin c * sin beta )
north = arctan( tan c * cos beta )

( lengths in spheres are measured in degrees, so c would be 3,788*360/40,000 = 34.092° )

east = arcsin( sin 34.092° * sin 84° )
north = arctan( tan 34.092° * cos 84° )

east = 33.88° (32°53') => 3764.44 km
north = 4.05° (4°03') => 449.63 km

Where's my fault? This leads approx. to Gorey, Ireland

[aliendial]

[Weezel]

I was trying my best to get a copy of the spinning earth so that I might slow it down and get a better look at the red dots (when they appear). Didn't have any luck using Cam Studi to record it. going to try some others in a bit.

If someone else has a better solution that would be great. My hope is get a local copy so we can do frame grabs (of the same spot of the rotation) and overlay the images. This would give us 'fuller' images of the continents, since at different times, there are different amounts of white dots. However, part of the problem is that the image doesn't seem to follow an earth rotation, as it grows bigger, smaller, speeds up, and tilts.. so getting more than one image of the same 'spot' is going to be difficult... there's a challenge for some of those with free time today.

I was also trying to coordinate in chat (no one was there) to see if we could do some testing. I'm trying to determine what makes the dots appear and when, and I had a [spec] that maybe it was related to the logins. e.g. one person logs in and the someone *else* sees a dot.

I tried doing it through two different browsers running on my system, but didn't notice anything special. Though reloading the page occassionally got me 1 or 2 dots, but I couldn't confirm that was the results of the things I typed into the command window.

To eliminate the possibility that it's because the site sees me as the same person (there is a webtrends cookie which stores your IP address, and could be used for a purpose like this -- in addition to marketing tracking), I wanted to coordinate with someone else.

I'll see if I get some free time later.

.W.

[Weezel]

Oh, and my wife looked at the Omph video last night and noticed that on the sample greek one, which indicated where the circles were, several of the points wound up being in the water... FWIW. This shouldn't hold true if the portion about being able to travel mirror equidistance from the omphs takes you to two important points (e.g. look at the athens, and then the opposite direction).

I guess one could say to ignore those that fall over water, but it was worth noting.

.W.

[Tenchizard]

The problem is the east. The REAL east, I mean, not "the right part of the map"
After playing around with values (in the gps website I found before), I've found that at around 86º north (which is almost directly east) from Stephenville is... Lisbon. But Lisbon is too far.
The problem is that the closer land spot from Stephenville is at about 4000 km. Right now, I'm stuck in the middle of the ocean...

PD:
@aliendial: I know. Arbroath is just another casual coincidence : /
About the radius, I'm supposing this omphalos codes is part of the "new" agonothetai, the ones who use technology as to make a spinning globe with lots of dots and a linux-based OS... so they may be using the new omphalos to cover the whole world, not just the greece empire...

@weezel: I had thought about that too. Maybe the green/red dots appear when more than one people are connected. I'll try to leave at least one browser connected to the page from now on while I do other things.

[Weezel]

[AUZ505]

[sapagoo]

Dongying for the win!
I had 2 red dots, one in China, one near Denmark.
I made a list of cities for both, and Dongying got a hit.
Although, since it's red, I just get "Pending artifact confirmation"


Edit to add:
Thanks, mr.judkins, for the reversed map on page 8 of this thread. It was very helpful.

[[M]]

Another one! Red dot.

LUNGLEI
Pending artifact confirmation

I don't know what that means...