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[RING][EMAIL] Eli Hunt, March 16th
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jasper
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kosmopol wrote:
jasper wrote:
Wave #2 is described on the back of my title page entry. I think it's 1101101

Thanx!
I also see it, a little bit irritating, since the other codes are eight-digit.

the diagram is stacked? Instead of two groups of possibilities, it is a diagram that branches (?) from the top.

edited to try to make sense Foily!
this is what I can see on the back of the title page
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chippy
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01011000 88
1101101 109
10010110 150
11010101 213

using http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~gurwitz/core5/nav2tool.html

equals the ip address of the secret site. Except wave #1 which is 88, instead of 164.
EDITS: Ariock in IRC says that it does equal 164 if you follow the diagram of yes and nos

Eli is saying how he found it. "Many of you have expressed interest in the origins of http://164.109.150.213/."
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Elizabeth123
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Nice...I'm guessing we're going to be given diagrams to find another secret site...

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joeyhess
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Quote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Start at the top--For example in waveform 1 we have: Yes and No
Follow the arrows: Yes becomes Yes and No, and No becomes No and Yes
The yes's and no's together become the 2 no's at the bottom.

The binary code then matches, reading left to right, with 1's being yes's and 0's being no's.



When I read wafeform 1 as you describe, I get 10100100, which is not right -- waveform 1 starts with 01. Am I misunderstanding? Your method works for #3 and #4 though, and should allow reconstucting the diagram for #2, if it's right..

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dreamerblue
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chippy wrote:
01011000 88
1101101 109
10010110 150
11010101 213

using http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~gurwitz/core5/nav2tool.html

equals the ip address of the secret site. Except wave #1 which is 88, instead of 164.
EDITS: Ariock in IRC says that it does equal 164 if you follow the diagram of yes and nos

Eli is saying how he found it. "Many of you have expressed interest in the origins of http://164.109.150.213/."


If he came across these notes somewhere, rather than having written them himself, then he could have used them to figure out where this website is...so he still probably did not create the "secret" site himself.

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joeyhess wrote:
Quote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Start at the top--For example in waveform 1 we have: Yes and No
Follow the arrows: Yes becomes Yes and No, and No becomes No and Yes
The yes's and no's together become the 2 no's at the bottom.

The binary code then matches, reading left to right, with 1's being yes's and 0's being no's.



When I read wafeform 1 as you describe, I get 10100100, which is not right -- waveform 1 starts with 01. Am I misunderstanding? Your method works for #3 and #4 though, and should allow reconstucting the diagram for #2, if it's right..


You are Right. The waveform binary code was transcribed incorrectly on the page. Perhaps to throw the searchers off the truth. Very Happy
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dreamerblue
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By the way, I compared the handwritten notes on the book pages to the writing on Hunt's "secret" artifact (the one he found in the statue). It doesn't seem to match to me.

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joeyhess
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Note that both 01011000 and 10100100 describe a {yes,no} state pair that branches into {{yes,no},{yes,no}} and collapses back into {no,no}. Same thing, two different ways to write it.

88.109.150.213 is not up, by the way. Smile

Hmm, might there be other ways to write some of the other waveforms that yeild other working IP addresses?

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ariock
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joeyhess wrote:
Note that both 01011000 and 10100100 describe a {yes,no} state pair that branches into {{yes,no},{yes,no}} and collapses back into {no,no}. Same thing, two different ways to write it.

88.109.150.213 is not up, by the way. Smile

Hmm, might there be other ways to write some of the other waveforms that yeild other working IP addresses?


However, from the diagram, the two Nos in the second line combine and cause an amplification that ends up with two nos. So it's not {yes, no},{yes, no}, but {yes, no}-{no, yes}. The order is important.
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joeyhess
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I tried to transcribe all the text visible through the back of the title page. Here's what I have so far:

Waveform #2 1101101
One state exists -- yes
it branches -- yes and no
<illegible>
collapse back into <??>
sing <illegible>
it re-branches -- yes and no
the 2 <???>
states re-collapse back
into a single state -- yes

<diagram>

.. the simplest(?) cycle .. branch and revert, branch and revert

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Tenchizard
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I can't believe it's not butter! I mean... I can't believe I got a mail from Eli too!
I sent him a mail some days ago, telling him what we knew about Monica and Diego, and a translation of a note from her. This is the heading of the mail I've got:
Code:
What a startling find! I very much want to discuss the origins of this postcard with you more, but I hope you will allow me to set the subject aside momentarily to discuss a more urgent matter.


But... I didn't get a page. No attachment nor any pic in the mail... maybe he forgot to attach it? Well, I guess I'll try replying and telling him that whatever he sent me has lost itself in the internet... But I hope that's not the case, or we may be crippled if the pages sent are sent to just one person...

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Keric
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Interestingly, Eli sent me the same page image that chippy received, though he didn't say anything about wheelbarrow races being the least of his worries...
Eli Hunt wrote:

Dear Kyle,

I am impressed with how quickly the collective investigators working with Ariadne at her forum (www.findthelostring.com) have made progress. Indeed, they have recovered the first two chapters of the Lost Ring Codex!

I have been waiting a very long time to read the second set of pages...

The rest of the letter is identical to the one FMG received.

This isn't exactly groundbreaking news (though I was pretty excited!), but I wanted to post it because I joined just yesterday. I sent Hunt an email telling him I'd like to help...and voila.

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tufty2112
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Wave Form #2 1101101

One state exists - yes it branches - yes and no

The 2 simultaneous states collapse back into a single state - yes

It re-branches - yes and no

The 2 new simultaneous states re-collapse back into a single state - yes

yes
/ \
yes no
\ /
yes
/ \
yes no
\ /
yes

...The simplest cycle...

branch and revert, branch and revert



This is my translation from the pic i got from Eli. I know its been gone over, just wanted to put it up cause it says simultaneous, so 1101101 could be 1011011 if reading the yes' and nos from right to left.

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Hikaro
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I got an email as well. My variation included telling me that Renata was in fact part of the last group of agonothetai:

Quote:
The visions described in the first chapter, the visions that tormented Micha… I have seen the same things. I saw them when I went into the labyrinth, back when the agonothetai were not numbered as 696, but rather 695… a group I see you know something of already, having met Renata...


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Woo! Update Sunday!
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