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[RING][ARTIFACT] Ch. 4 (@Shanghai, China)

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jasper · Unfettered Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 560 Location: Texas

It's chapter 4, not 3 eh?

And Great job! And thanks!

FMG

It isn't chapter 3, but chapter 4... Wink

chapter 3 is still missing.

EDIT: Jasper was faster... Razz

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:37 pm

ariock

No Pruvoderehavigo Yet

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:12 am

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The translation of the artifact is available on the wiki: http://olympics.wikibruce.com/Codex-Shanghai-p1#English.

I think we should try to identify the training places from the drawings.

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:18 am

myf

Unless I've missed something, there isn't much to go on to identify those pictures.

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:05 am

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You're right, myf, it's hard to tell what the pictures depict.

However, due to my amazing ancient history skills (or the amazing skills of my ancient history teacher Very Happy

), I can tell you that the columns in the bottom picture? Have to be one of five types. And, by the process of elimination, twotypes aren't correct: they have the wrong bases. (Details = very important). So, Ionic, Corinthian or Egyptian are a good bet.

Use this for pictorial reference: http://www.realtor.org/rmomag.NSF/pages/arch35?OpenDocument

I'm thinking Egyptian, to be honest. Others' thoughts?

EDIT: Further research reveals another type which matches the drawings even more closely: Tuscan columns.

ref: http://traditionalcolumn.com/Columns_types.jpg

Still not right, though. Maybe they weren't paying attention to the little details when they were drawing their columns?

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:23 am

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Trak26 · Veteran Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 99 Location: down under

not sure but think one of the pictures is a drawing of The temple of Castor and Pollux in the foreground, and the Column of Phocas is on the left. Not sure how knowing this might help us. The other thing is the two pictures of Greek and Christian architecture are Basicilas and the most famous is St Peters.

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:10 am

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Gerri · Veteran Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 84

Not too sure how knowing all this might help either, but I suppose we never know when it might be of use. Smile

The second drawing on the left side of the page does look an awful lot like St. Peter's Basilica: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/Petersdom_von_Engelsburg_gesehen.jpg

And does anyone know what the statue on the right might be? The columns and the rest of the stonework might be hard to place, but a statue like that is probably rather distinctive.

Maybe if these are all found in one place or relatively near each other, it could be a hint.

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:31 am

Elizabeth123 · Decorated Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 285

Looks like that's definitely it. Here are images of what that site would've looked like "in the day," and a photo that resembles the semicircle of columns, all from the same location. Good job, Trak!

My guess is the statue is of emperor Phocas, which used to be at the site but has since been destroyed.

Gerri · Veteran Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 84

Looks like the places drawn might all be located at or near the Roman Forum.
This page gives us a photo of the site, and names quite a few of the landmarks we've identified (quite a few Basilicas are mentioned too). They've even been so nice to put the names in bold!

http://www.voyageurtours.com/eol/results.php?country=italy&city=the%20forum&attraction=the%20forum

So, hm... were Jorge and the rest thinking of building a labyrinth there? Or *did* they construct one, and it's just "hiding in plain sight"?

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:56 am

AUZ505

The translation of the artifact is:
"Our training places during the years 1916-1918:"

It is "places" if the translation is correct. So there should be more than one place. I first thought 6 person --> 6 drawings --> 6 places (perhaps even from the 6 postcard locations: Madrid, London, Rio, Boston, ...).

Which of the drawings belongs to which building in the "Forum Romanum"?

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:20 am

Gerri · Veteran Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 84

Well, maybe the Roman Forum was just one of their training grounds, then? I think if they were trying to bring back the lost sport, they must've tried to construct as many labyrinths as they could (hidden or otherwise), right?

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:52 am

jasper · Unfettered Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 560 Location: Texas

If that drawing is meant to show St. Peter's basilica in Rome (as linked by Gerri) I'd like to go back in time and donk the sketch artist in the head for failing to capture the magnificence of the dome.

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:47 pm

danteIL · Unfictologist Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 1990

It looks to me like these are supposed to represent 6 different places.

Also, from the translated document:

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:05 pm