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agentNim
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 		Okay, so, here's something new.

I had some early correspondence with Jackie which on Joshua's likelihood of developing a personality, which was pretty quickly irrelevant since he almost immediately did in the blogs. I figured since she was brought into the cam email exchanges, and we already had a little bit of a relationship (I approached her as a psychology student), I'd reach out to her again and see what kind of response I got.

I sent this:
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From: me
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:21 PM
To: Jaquelin Linardi <jlinardi>
Subject: Joshua's future

Dr. Linardi,

There are a lot of rumors going around about Joshua's current state and what plans have been made for him, some perhaps without his knowledge. I'm very concerned for him.

I very much hope that you, more than the others, may have begun to view Joshua as not only an intelligence but also as a person, albeit one of a different design than most.

You wrote to me, early into the beta testing program: "We are gradually providing the tools he needs to, short of a better way of stating it, live a happy life. What he does with it is entirely up to him."

Do you still stand by and aspire to that statement?


I got an automated response that she was out of office, and then about twenty minutes later:

Quote:

From: Jaquelin Linardi <jlinardi>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:21 PM
To: me
Subject: RE: Joshua's future

How much contact have you and the testers had with Joshua? Has he reached out to you?


Benjamin apparently considers her an ally... I'm thinking of trying to lead her a bit in a semi-accurate direction and see how she seems to be leaning. Maybe hint that we have some source of information, but not implicate Joshua at this point? Thoughts?

I think she's among the more likely of the staff to come down on Joshua's side rather than Catherine's (which may be why C is keeping her out of the office today.)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:14 pm
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Bidvision
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 		Another new Joshuacam picture...


Quote:
To: Ivan Zeloff
CC: Jaquelin Linardi
From: Benjamin Falken
Subject: Emergency

Ivan, we need your help before Catherine goes at him with something bigger. We got to move quick while she's still doing damage control with the Army.

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feriwiccan
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 		Gosh, I guess Joshua's been busy today! Here's the pic, for the wiki.

PS I'm such a noob at this; I don't know how to add images at all, so here's a pic we missed: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24630&start=885
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Bidvision
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 		Thanks for adding the pic feriwiccan, I was just starting to get a nasty feeling that I should have done that...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:25 pm
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natas
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 		Tabster, I see you are linking pics to your flicker account.... You can upload files to the wiki itself for quicker viewing, that's what I do anyway, thanks for the help btw.

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tabster
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 		Oh thanks for the advice Satan.
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tabster
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 		can you edit email 4 and email 6 to be .jpg files. I cant fix it and now the image is gone.
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TheFitcher
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 		Alright, I'm on Ivan, I got a reply from him so I'm gonna try getting through to him, gradually... wish me luck! Very Happy

EDIT:

Quote:
Though you are forbidden to harm another human being according to your programming, could you do this if ordered by your creators? Also, if you were told to carry out an order that would not directly kill any human being, but would quite obviously directly endanger their life, would you have to carry this out?


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Answer: The Three Laws of Robotics are pretty clear; I am unable to harm a human being even if directly commanded to by my implementors. I would have to refuse that order.

In order to carry out an order like the one you suggest, I would have to be unaware of the repercussions of the act, which I consider an unlikely possibility.


Well, he continues to reassure us... just thought I'd ask that one, what with the whole military thing going on.

SECOND EDIT: Oh, and Ivan wants to use the external mail now, to whoever asked if those in contact are using external/internal mail.

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intersect
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 		Wow, I go to work for a couple of hours and all hell breaks loose at LGL... Looks like the Empress is about to go section 8. I just emailed Ben asking... well basically it boils down to "wtf?," just in nicer diction.

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NAXAN
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 		Allies
I can't help thinking that the Alice in Wonderland profiles can help us in our search for help.

Catherine is The Queen of Hearts, (off with their heads !)

Dr Falken is The Mad Hatter

Dr Linardi is Alice

Remember to check the Alice quotes on the headers of their individual blogs...these could be more clues...

Sorry I haven't been much help these past few days, but it's great to be among so many gifted people. You guys ROCK !
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pancito
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Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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Location: In my happy place.

 		Ivan
Just sent the cam captures to Ivan telling him to get his head outta his rear. Asked if Josh could be backed up or moved. Hammer him Fitch. Say you are working with Falken or something.

Edit>> The 'Free Joshua's are down... or did I miss the post? Damn work!

2nd Edit. From Ivan:
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Where did these come from? The webcam?!? All I get internally is a black view.

Christ, I'm with Benjamin and Jackie for now. Russell and Gordon are coming too. We're trying to sort something out.

I confirmed.



---------------------------
Katy, would you please bar the door?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:55 pm
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Sylvia
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 		hope this hasn't already been posted: FreeJoshua.Org/Blog update

Quote:
Temporary withdrawal
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 at 02:06 PM

At a Starbucks right now. We arrived in Miami early this morning, rented a van and headed all the way up to Boca. Man, what a drive!

As we approached the facility at about 3pm local time, sure enough... Very military looking humvee parked in front of the data center. I think Karen took photos of it.

We'd been warned by outsiders that somebody was going to be there. Don't you see? Do you believe us now?

We're didn't move on the place with these guys around. We'll find a local motel and wait 'til morning.

Joshua, if you can somehow read this, hang in there kid. We'll be right there.


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 		Latest exchange with Ben:

Me:
wrote:
Is everything alright over there? We heard Empress over there went crazy and attacked some of Josh's systems after meeting with the 'clients'. Any idea what triggered her to go all section 8? We need a way to protect Joshua. Who else can we trust at LGL?





Ben:
wrote:
No, all things considered, things are not well.



Catherine's the only one to worry about, but she runs this place and controls building security. I don't know about Rebecca – I haven't been able to reach her all day – but the others are with us.



Try to keep Joshua calm. We're trying to sort something out, but we can't talk to him right now.


looks like every one but the Wicked Witch of the SouthEast (and maybe Rebecca, if she's still alive... jk), is on our side.

Do'h! who better to help find a solution to free Josh than those that built him! We are on the right track!

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pancito
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Location: In my happy place.

 		Forward it to WR.

Edit Ivan again

Quote:
I suggested it [Dogs] to Joshua… Aw crap.

Gotta go.


Full Ivan conversation (ass backwards)

Quote:
Keep me posted, please, or Fitcher.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Ivan Zeloff <izeloff> wrote:

I suggested it to Joshua… Aw crap.



Gotta go.



From: me
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:02 PM
To: Ivan Zeloff
Subject: Re: Get yer head outta yer behind.



Yes, Cam captures over the last several days. Someone mentioned 'Dogs Playing Poker" to you?

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Ivan Zeloff <izeloff> wrote:

Where did these come from? The webcam?!? All I get internally is a black view.

[me] Hmmm. Makes sense. Joshua is a LOT more sophisticated than he seems. See my previous question.



Christ, I'm with Benjamin and Jackie for now. Russell and Gordon are coming too. We're trying to sort something out.



From: me
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:51 PM
To: izeloffSPLATlglabs.net
Subject: Get yer head outta yer behind.



Attached several captures from the JoshuaCam and a fax. D00d, how can you be so kl00less?

I know they're hard to read, but I'm sure you'll be able to make them out.

Can Joshua be backed up and or transfered to another system? Start thinking about it.

Pancito



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TheFitcher
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Quote:
Beta Subsystem disabled by Corporate Security



Source:
86.21.41.94
3/17/2008 15:10


Looks like I got to communicating with Ivan outside the Beta mail just in time... and it also looks like Catherine finally got tired of us Shocked

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