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Varin
I Have No Life
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2456 Location: South of where I used to be
[PUZZLE] ladybee777 email 8/03
Quote:
The History of Dana
by
The Sleeping Princess
It is the object of this to present The news
Chapter I. The Sleeping Princess friendless and alone
The Sleeping Princess friendless and alone
the queen wishes
The Sleeping Princess
sealed into an airtight container
hiding from the queen
Life is bare, gloom and misery everywhere
Stormy weather, just can't get my poor old self together
The Widow
the blues walked in and met me
The Widow will get me
the sleeping princess are in hiding
One must be so careful these days.
the "pious flea" and "sleeping princess" (?)
MARK but this flea, and mark in this
don't like it
I can't help it
a proper fool
a bad banana
unimaginable filth and stench; and disease
he can't write his name or read a book
I read, much of the night
Chapter II. Dana friendless and alone
Dana a friend/good guy.
Dana is not an artificial being. nor is she a program. She is human. She is flesh and blood.
Dana
You're as cuddly as the cat
You're as charming as the butterfly
the favorite of the plebeian masses
Being the friend
you and I together allies, and if the queen pleased thrown into a condition of extreme danger
"Of course I will stick.
I'll stick by you
though thin and though thick!"
best friend
This one means you're happy:
Chapter IV
The Sleeping Princess passed through a great variety of scenes, and met with many extraordinary adventures and narrow escapes, which, however, can not be here particularly detailed.
I found
a secret was revealed
I should not be able to make any one understand how exciting it all was.
I brought it home and hid it in a secret place
Chapter V need help right quick, on the double
when I feel
That I shall never look upon thee more
Her name is Dana.
the house is so sad and lonesome
Dana
being persuaded to
come back
to talk
to me
Well, I will tell you
that secret
I found
maybe you can help me (?)
T-U-R-T-L-E Power! T-U-R-T-L-E Power! T-U-R-T-L-E Power! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Power!
love
*** END: FULL LICENSE ***
Text was in lime green.
Some of the bits have already been identified in the interaction thread...
peeveen1 wrote:
Songs:
Swinging on a Star
Stormy Weather
Turtle Power
Literature:
The Flea (by John Donne)
The Wasteland (by TS Eliot)
The Mysterious Stranger (by Mark Twain)
Horton Hears a Who (by Dr Seuss)
History of Julius Caesar (by Jacob Abbott)
_________________"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish
"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:05 pm
Dorkmaster
Unfictologist
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1328 Location: The People's Republic of Dork
Ok, Varin... what have we got here... the only thing that I can think of is this:
http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/1/1/0/6/11065/11065-h/11065-h.htm
it's got mention of a lot of animals... so does the song "Swingin on a Star", and turtle power, well, it's got turtles? Stormy weather has no connection that I can tell, excepting the previous mention in the Melissa/Odysseus/Castaway stuff...
(edit, I got that link from turtle power and the *** end: full license *** stuff...)
_________________"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson
"Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it." - PJ O'Rourke
"ACADEMY, n. A modern school where football is taught." - Ambrose Bierce
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:09 pm
Varin
I Have No Life
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 2456 Location: South of where I used to be
This is what I harvested from the other thread...
Stormy Weather - lyrics sent by an Anonymous Coward
"just can't get my poor old self together"
"the blues walked in and met me"
Horton Hears A Who? - text sent by NivekPS2
"Though thin and though thick"
The Flea by John Donne - text sent by msekolpsu and also posted in the ilovebees blog by Diogenes
"MARK but this flea, and mark in this"
When I Have Fears That I May Cease to Be by John Keats
"That I shall never look upon thee more"
Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain
"unimaginable filth and stench; and disease"
"I should not be able to make any one understand how exciting it all was."
"I brought it home and hid it in a secret place"
"the house is so sad and lonesome"
The Project Gutenberg eBook, History of Julius Caesar, by Jacob Abbott
"favorite of the plebeian masses" and "thrown into a condition of extreme danger"
"Swinging On A Star" (song)
"he can't write his name or read a book"
Wasteland
"I read, much of the night"
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle References - HoldenC sent the names of the TMNT
edited to make more readable
_________________"I still miss him to this day and probably always will." - Todd Keeler, Chasing the Wish
"meta meta meta, I made you out of play..." ~ j5
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:11 pm
Last edited by Varin on Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:55 pm; edited 4 times in total
ste
Boot
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 52
Turtle Power was sent in an email by Macavity, as mentioned here .
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:12 pm
Dorkmaster
Unfictologist
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1328 Location: The People's Republic of Dork
Well, I also found it notable that Stormy Weather pertained to not being close to one's woman, like the princess feels about Dana... Just spec without direction, but I found it notable...
_________________"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson
"Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it." - PJ O'Rourke
"ACADEMY, n. A modern school where football is taught." - Ambrose Bierce
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:13 pm
Bellebet
Veteran
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 87 Location: Boston, MA
We also have the lyrics from "You're a mean One, Mr. Grinch." Which is what I sent out in an email.
a bad banana
cuddly as a cactus (cat in the letter)
charming as a (butterfly in the letter)
We also have proof it's the Sleeping princess we're talking to, since she signed it that way, and that she doesn't think much of the Flea, who can't read.
Also, there's the missing chapter 3, which ties in with the missing third recipe.
Bellebet
_________________It's all about you , isn't it? Me, me, me. Put me out, I'm on fire...
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:14 pm
Dorkmaster
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1328 Location: The People's Republic of Dork
Now, it's something important that "the secret" has to do with turtle power... It's a secret she can't tell at the beginning, but she does at the end, and mentions turtle power... we gotta focus on that, I think... (and the fact that it's secret... maybe in the recipe3 page?)
_________________"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson
"Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it." - PJ O'Rourke
"ACADEMY, n. A modern school where football is taught." - Ambrose Bierce
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:18 pm
HoldenC
Boot
Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 24
I am almost positive... I already specced this it in the other thread, but looking again, I saw the word "scenes" which is the term used in "Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson for VR performances/experiences. Now I want to get a hold of the book to see if it actually had the phrase "Sleeping Princess"! I know the chracter was called Princess Nell at some points, in the Primer.. Can anyone verify this, or am I going to have to go to Barnes and Noble on my lunch hour?
Quote:
The Sleeping Princess passed through a great variety of scenes, and met with many extraordinary adventures and narrow escapes, which, however, can not be here particularly detailed.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:18 pm
peeveen1
Boot
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 51
Despite the email ending with Project Gutenberg syntax, not all of the texts quoted from are available from there (some are, though).
The email seems to be mainly built from things that have been sent to that email account, so I'm not sure if the actual sources are particularly important.
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:22 pm
Dorkmaster
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1328 Location: The People's Republic of Dork
Holden C, can you expand on that, especially the primer part (I am only curious, since I found a primer on project gutenberg when I entered the turtle power part with the "end: full license" thing)
_________________"The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet." -William Gibson
"Always read stuff that will make you look good if you die in the middle of it." - PJ O'Rourke
"ACADEMY, n. A modern school where football is taught." - Ambrose Bierce
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:23 pm
leetch11
Boot
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Minneapolis, MN
Princess Nell "the Sleeping Princess" isn't mentioned specifically in "The Diamond Age" but, alot of the language is very Stephenson. We seem to have a very interesting mix of actual and pop culture in this e-mail... I wonder how much of this was dirrectly sent by any of us trying to "Teach" the princess language... or if it's more like Splash and she's just learning through some kind of leak that allows her partial access to the web?
_________________Te Occedere Possunt sed te Edere non Possunt Nefas est
(roughly: they can kill you but the legalities of eating you are quite a bit dicier)
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:27 pm
peeveen1
Boot
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 51
HoldenC, I think "The Sleeping Princess" is the original title for "Sleeping Beauty".
And "met with many extraordinary adventures" could be a line from Dio's Roman History. (London: 1917), pp. 399-403. This ties in with the Julius Caesar thing.
http://www.hillsdale.edu/oldacademics/history/war/Classical/Rome/36-Antony-Medes.htm
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:28 pm
Andy
Boot
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 55
This is a reach, but it's already been mentioned that there is no chapter 3, and the 3rd recipe is missing from the site. Could the chapter of this story somehow relate to the corresponding recipe pages? (I know, there are 8 recipe pages but only 5 chapters).
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:29 pm
Last edited by Andy on Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
leetch11
Boot
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Minneapolis, MN
The Primer The Primer was an interactive book in the novel "The Diamond Age - Or, a young woman's illustrated primer" by Neil Stephenson. It is about a young orphan in the future who finds a unique book that guides her through life. I seriously doubt you can find it on Gutenberg... but a good read nonetheless... if only Stephenson could learn how to end his books...
_________________Te Occedere Possunt sed te Edere non Possunt Nefas est
(roughly: they can kill you but the legalities of eating you are quite a bit dicier)
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:31 pm
HoldenC
Boot
Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 24
The Diamond Age In "The Diamond Age", a young, disadvantaged girl is mistakenly given a "Young Ladies Illustrated Primer", which is an interactive book that teaches and empowers her, adjusting it's lessons to her development and environment. I think that line (although it seems without the "Sleeping" part) is straight out of the book - maybe an indication that the Sleeping Princess is using our e-mails as a Primer (which is a term for a book or text that contains basic rules, as in an elementary textbook - another meaning being a basic dictionary used to translate or decode a language or cypher - think Rosetta Stone).
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:32 pm
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