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[New Game] Sarg TMT - Meanings changed in Video Clips
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Cruzer
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 		Got some of these messages too that might shed some light. To be honest I felt more confused but am not sure if I'm out my depth.

pastes below:

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another few thoughts.
I think the name Sarg TMT might be a play on S-someting ARG - alternate reality game - TMT? as well as a military reference as he was in the army before working in videos. Also the use of Foxtrot Oscar is basically fuck off lol. Im not sure if he recieved some nasty message and was aiming it at them.

Yesterday's times theres an feature in its magazine called The Big Questions.
It has a profile on a academic/ scientist under each question.
Which follows:
Can we beat cancer?
When will robots do the housework?
What is going on in teenagers brains?
Can we save the planet?
Is there going to be a pandemic?
How will the universe end?
Will we find extraterrestial life?
Can we live forever?
What can our genes tell us about our future health?

Now the Profile for "Can we live forever?" is Dr Stephen Minger (lol- seriously). Hes the director of the Stem Cell Biology Lab King's College London. I know that Chris Boyd is collaborating with him on a highly controversial project regarding hybrid embryos, he mentioned it some years ago of being stuck in a rut on a panel talk on the radio. He said he was collaborating with said Dr. and that for him producing the video (I think)was a logistical nightmare. Also the research team have been recieving: according to Dr Minger, an average of 10 death threats a week. So Im sure this has affected Chris's working etc.

The Article is on page 24 of The Times magazine 08.03.08


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Cruzer
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 		Weird Messages and Symbolic youtube clips.
Mirror Related and introverted
Any1 got anywhere with Vid download?
I've got a load of messages and comments of smokeyleopard.
At first it seemed the same. And I reckon it was gradually revealing itself one after the other but I've only just read so there was no build up in tension or ought.

Quote:
Find the 5th Member and gather strength in numbers

Ignorance & Arrogance
Confusion
Identifying Problems
Problem Solving


Also I've got a few attached videos.

Enter the dragon and Bruce Lee. Its all got a relation with Mirrors too.



YouTube: Link


Matrix link with this 1 too.



YouTube: Link


Greek Myth link again. Also Narcissus is Mirror related.



YouTube: Link


A russian film clip. Again Mirror related



YouTube: Link



Heres my take. Were ignorance and arrogant, fair does, and in the confused part of that list.

Our next job is to identify problems. lol Sounds like stages of life haha.
Well Alice through the looking glass, is about growing up. Each message subject was Growth.
I think its do with fighting with yourself and to get past it to grow up. I know it sounds mad but everything in these puzzles is all metaphors and symbols.

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Cruzer
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 		The smokeyleopard Videos analysed
Russian Film Clip1
The Russian and French Clips have subtitles so no translating needed. Also is it just me but when you use babelfish the translations are gobbleygook.

The Russian 1 is by Andrei Tarkovsky and the film is called Mirror.
One theme is that the Sarg TMT layer 3 video has Boyd sat at a desk watching the monitors. This clip starts with a boy watching a tv that isnt playing anything. This part is colour btw.

Next theres a boy stuttering like crazy trying to say his name. Identity Crisis? Or is this the identifying problems part.

So we watch the videos then identify the problems.

This is like where we first watched Sarg TMT 3 its starts off in colour and realistic but we go into the screen and behind the soundwaves. So the boy at the start switches on the tv which is blank and tunes in. Then it goes into the B&W clip. This like as if the B&W clip is inside the TV.

Like Boyd's layer 3 video we go inside the screen.

Also the boy is young at the start so he could represent childhood Ignorance which is bliss.

This is the first in the list.

Quote:
Ignorance & Arrogance
Confusion
Identifying Problems
Problem Solving


Next theres a boy who is older, it could be the same boy at the start. He is having major problems saying his name.

So I think this is Boyd communicating through these clips which is setup with the list. Okay so he's a clever sod and made everyone confusioned.

The boy is confused in the clip and the women is Identifying the Problem

Next she Solves it. I think she hynoptises him or something psychological. Does any1 know what she does?

Ok so problem solved and the lad can go on without stuttering.

So Boyd is using pictures and sound, videos which communicate a 1000 words. This is how I feel, as you cant quite make sense like in rational sense or words but it all feel very related and makes sense in that way. Cant quite explain. But its like he wants us to go through what the band went through growing up in a certain sense.

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Cruzer
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 		The smokeyleopard Videos analysed
The French Philosophy Clip2
Speech is blind.
This is a clip of an interview with a French philosopher guy Derrida talking about Echo and Narcissus.

About the relationship between Sound and Vision.

Quote:
Echo traps Narcissus in a way by arranging herself to repeat the last words of Narcissus.
"she speaks in such a way that the words become her own"
"In a certain way, she appropriates his language."

Right I beginning to really think that Boyd is a right bloody clever sod. Because this is the process that he is actually using to communicate with us.
All is videos are really well edited and synced with the sound and video as well as communicating what the music is getting across.

Quote:
"In repeating, she communicates with him" Echo with Narcissus.
"She speaks in her own name by just repeating his words."
"So all speech is to some extent blind."


So is this the process in which Boyd is working with the Music's music?
Also Speech being a communication form as being blind is boyd saying that we need to be try understand emotionally? As in not focusing on something in such a way we end up blind like Narcissus as he only sees his own image which results in his death.
So in some sense is boyd trying to get us to liberate ourselves and Grow as in therapy wise or emotionally?

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 		CRUZER you have basically posted every thing in this thread...
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Cruzer
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CRUZER you have basically posted every thing in this thread...


What do you mean Lunsford?

I'm going through each video I was sent to get an idea.

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 		The smokeyleopard Videos analysed
The Animatrix - Through The Looking Glass
Animatrix amv

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AMV- An anime music video (abbreviated AMV) is a music video consisting of clips from one or more anime series or movies set to songs; the term usually refers to fan-made unofficial videos.


The band have quoted the Matrix in a Intro Track.
Theres a Japanese Voice at the start of Sarg TMT layer 3.

Mirror theme again. 5th Member is maybe refering to the fans here I think.

The anime links with the other anime series Serial Experiments Lain on the myspaces.

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nrisin
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 		I got a load of these in messages and video comments.

I see what videos I was sent too.

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nrisin
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 		Check this on the official The Music forum.
Rob is playing the soundtrack of Sarg TMT Layer 3


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If you go to Robs Myspace page and wait a few seconds you will here a strange mix of noises but stay with it for a minute or so and you will hear random pieces of music from the new album,strength in numbers is very prominent and i think a bit of idle is in there aswell.......anyone else see if they can pick out any new tunes?......Just thought you should all know...

Good idea by the band i reckon.....


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freddy
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 		Different from your videos but they are all related, the wicked queen part from snow white where she talks to the mirror, bruce lee, echo and narcissus, they all have mirror references.

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Quote:
The Animatrix - Through The Looking Glass

AMV- An anime music video (abbreviated AMV) is a music video consisting of clips from one or more anime series or movies set to songs; the term usually refers to fan-made unofficial videos

The anime links with the other anime series Serial Experiments Lain on the myspaces.




Lain has references to Alice in Wonderland also if you search you can find that its creators had a previous series called Alice in Cyberland.
We are following that link at the moment on this forum http://sargtmt.forumotion.com/index.htm

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Floortje
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freddy wrote:
Different from your videos but they are all related, the wicked queen part from snow white where she talks to the mirror, bruce lee, echo and narcissus, they all have mirror references.

I think a lot of the mirror stuff had to do with the notes that were found at gigs (since they were written in backwards and could only be read with a mirror), but don't quote me on that. I'm just following the trail, i'm interested to see what happens but I am of no use trying to figure things out cuz i don't know how nor do i have the tools.

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 		Floortje wrote
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I think a lot of the mirror stuff had to do with the notes that were found at gigs (since they were written in backwards and could only be read with a mirror), but don't quote me on that. I'm just following the trail, i'm interested to see what happens but I am of no use trying to figure things out cuz i don't know how nor do i have the tools.


Right I got a dvd which is a data disc. Its got all sort on it. pictures, videos etc. I reckon that the mirror stuff has the multiple meanings. As in were the 5th member and our "strength in numbers" is needed to get on with these puzzles. I'm sure you are going to be of use Floortje. I don't quite have the tools too but if you check out the resources and tools part to the unfiction.com site theres loads to help with decoding etc. Also just getting more people looking at it - someones bound to spot something we have not seen.

The very first thing someone said was to analyse the video so that's not even been done yet. But I've got files which can be tho. Will get on this later tonight. Will try upload and that.

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trollman
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 		yeh on sarg tmt layer 4 if someone knows how, try to get frame captures so the words can be read, ive got poor quality videos but have been able to at least see the words (ive mentioned this in another topic in case of deja vu!)

from 1m04 to the start of the song

ill take a look over the weekend also to see if i can do anymore

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