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[brodie]

Who here has seen chapter eleven, recovered from Johannesburg? It looks like - to a beginner-Esperanton, who can read about every fourth word of the text - it may help us with the waveform problems! Pretty tree, too.

[bux]

Well I'll be.... SPEC: maybe the stations DO have a special significance - there's an awful of railroad stuff in this game by now (see: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=502704#502704)

The Copenhagen coordinates point to a bus station of course, but consider these facts:

• The station is located in "Jernbane Gade" (literally "Railroad Street")
  
• The Copenhagen Central Station is pretty close by (main hub for the Danish railroad system)
  
• There used to be streetcars running on rails here.... in fact, the bus station was most likely a station for street cars at the time the postcard was written! (Doh! Why didn't think of this before??!) This is pure SPEC of course, but very likely IMO

EDIT: Well, the actual building used for bus station today is new (early 1990's I think) but there must have been an older building or at least a stop, most likely interchange between different lines as well. I believe many of the street car lines were converted to bus lines and are pretty much unchanged today.

There is a historical streetcar society in Denmark that would probably LOVE answering questions if it ever comes to that....

[danteIL]

Although I *love* this rail station SPEC, I think we have to keep in mind that 4 out of 6 of these postcard locations (the exceptions being Toronto and London) are simply the default central locations that Google chooses to map those cities, and 99% of the time the center of any major city will also be a major transportation hub. In the cases of Rio and Copenhagen, these seem to be the central train stations. In the cases of Madrid and possibly Boston, this seems to be a central subway station (although note that these cities have central train stations elsewhere). But it is hard to tell what is more important for the coordinates: the central station or the city center -- these are confounded .

Toronto, though, is interesting because if the coordinates there had just been the Google defaults, they would have actually been *closer* to Union Station (the central rail station, near the waterfront). So Bloor and Yonge is not an accidental location, I guess. And obviously neither is London/Clapham Junction.

I dunno. The rail thing is intriguing, but I'm just not seeing it yet.

[VictorSueiro]

[AUZ505]

[danteIL]

I've been using Google Maps, not Google Earth, and this is what I get as the default:

(43.64855, -79.38535)

Which can be compared to

(43.6702,-79.3868) from the postcard

[VictorSueiro]

Geometry

[Elizabeth123]

Okay, I'm probably completely off-base here, but I think it's interesting that there are 2 dots in NA, and 3 relatively close to each other in Europe. Victor's picture makes me wonder, if you plotted this differently (not as all points leading to all others), if you might get a spiral similar to a labyrinth. Start at Madrid, say, circle through Boston, then Rio, then back up to London, then Toronto...I dunno, probably not. But we've seen stranger things.

[VictorSueiro]

Yes, that what im talking about Elizabeth, lets play with dots and lines...
Can anybody do the same job i did but in a mercator's map?

[VictorSueiro]

What if we think that the lines plotted in the google earth pic defines several intersections between the earth and other planes?

[VictorSueiro]

This material is in spanish... but, please, take a look to the images. People involved in maths will understand this:

http://www.epsilones.com/paginas/t-historias3.html

[iheathen]

after having seen the latest chapters that have been revealed, i'm inclined to think that these gps coordinates were the six locations that the postcard people used as their athletic synchronization attempts to bring the multiverse together. though they said they failed, didn't they? why did they fail? i think we need to help get back in to the house to get more info...

[iheathen]

sorry, double post...

also thinking they chose these locations because they will be busy "interchange" locations, with people going every which way, connecting to different buses/trains... easier to hide a bunch of people running in circles that way I suppose... but then again, that logic doesn't make sense unless all the bus and train stations were built at the time.

Also, in google earth, in the Rio De Janeiro location, there's a photo link right next to our coordinates, that depicts a bunch of people waiting for a bus right at our GPS... maybe it is also a bus terminal there too?

(i can't wait to see us start trying to run these training labyrinths ourselves... i have a feeling it's going to look really comical.) Especially once we all start humming and running, and one person's blindfolded. it's going to look crazy! haha

[Rogi Ocnorb]

[iheathen]