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[Trailhead] The Final State
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Fishjp
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Omega wrote:
Here's a direct link to the newspaper image:
http://inthefinalstate.com/paper.jpg

And, why not, here's the image itself:


Thanks.

I am sure everyone Noticed the Paper is the New York Times. This is the second NYC reference, Coincidence, PM error or clue?
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 		Probably just an error. Chicago was on Corey's facebook page, but all other references about his location were NYC related.

Waiting to hear back from Kristen, but I figure she should be ok for the time being since she is in Boston.....unless there is more than one killer...
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Fishjp wrote:
I am sure everyone Noticed the Paper is the New York Times. This is the second NYC reference, Coincidence, PM error or clue?

I think the first NYC reference was an error. But, the newspaper could be a hint that the killer is operating out of New York. Although, the New York Times is distributed all across the world...
Jacks wrote:
Probably just an error. Chicago was on Corey's facebook page, but all other references about his location were NYC related.

The newspaper states that Corey was found in his Chicago apartment. NYC references were a mixup, I'm guessing.

Edit: I did a search for the "Linda Hughes" mentioned in the newspaper. No immediate results, but maybe someone else can find something.
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 		Nice catch...I obviously missed that. I'll see if I can find anything on Linda Hughes.
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 		Something else we may want to look into:
The Baker and Mckenzie Law Firm and the JD Jungle magazine that wrote an article on him.

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 		Something I probably should've mentioned but forgot, Corey messaged me yesterday to tell me he meant the Chicago police, not NYPD.

Haven't seen Kristen all day.
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chinga
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Omega wrote:
Edit: I did a search for the "Linda Hughes" mentioned in the newspaper. No immediate results, but maybe someone else can find something.


Same here. Too many results, not related :/
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 		So...Marcus Lee and Robert Ingram are probably the next to go.

Also, I think our killer thinks he's the Grim Reaper.

Think 4:15 is relevant?

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kristenangel08 is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
Reapers0Angel (9:52:25 PM): Hey
KristenAngel08 (10:13:44 PM): omg hey I need to ask you something
Reapers0Angel (10:14:04 PM): Yeah.
KristenAngel08 (10:14:27 PM): This guy I heard about on the news today...? Is this the guy you people were telling me about!?
Reapers0Angel (10:14:34 PM): Yeah...
Reapers0Angel (10:14:37 PM): Corey is dead..
KristenAngel08 (10:14:38 PM): Oh... My God...
KristenAngel08 (10:15:15 PM): Yeah the news people said he was strung up like a puppet of some kind? Said apparently he was some hotshot lawyer out of NY but recently transfered to the head offices in Chicago...
Reapers0Angel (10:15:32 PM): Mhm. He was the youngest in his firm.
Reapers0Angel (10:15:41 PM): It's really unfortunate that he died... especially like this.
KristenAngel08 (10:18:50 PM): As soon as I heard I called a friend of my dads... He's a private investigator.
Reapers0Angel (10:19:14 PM): That's good. He's the kind that get can investigate unnoticed.
Reapers0Angel (10:19:24 PM): We don't want to take any chances. You're still in danger.
Reapers0Angel (10:19:38 PM): Is this guy gonna help you?
KristenAngel08 (10:20:44 PM): I contacted him and left a message... I know he has a site somewhere for his business but I need him to get back to me.
Reapers0Angel (10:21:04 PM): Yeah, well, that's good. Let me know if he gets back to you.
KristenAngel08 (10:21:09 PM): I will do
Reapers0Angel (10:24:08 PM): You haven't recieved anymore calls, have you?
KristenAngel08 (10:24:22 PM): Not since the second one, no.
Reapers0Angel (10:24:37 PM): That's good.
KristenAngel08 (10:32:10 PM): I'm just waiting on Mr. Hutchings to get back to me now.
Reapers0Angel (10:32:20 PM): Is that his name?
KristenAngel08 (10:32:32 PM): Yes... James Hutchings
Reapers0Angel (10:42:13 PM): Alright, well I've got to get going. Be safe.
KristenAngel08 (10:42:33 PM): Ok you too

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 		I know I'm new at this...but what else could have been done to save him? Could we have even saved him? What can we do differently with the new pair in hopes we can save them?
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 		I just talked to Kristen. She is going to give us contact info for the P.I. when he contacts her.
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daylyn wrote:
I know I'm new at this...but what else could have been done to save him? Could we have even saved him? What can we do differently with the new pair in hopes we can save them?

While the fate of Corey did seem a bit predetermined, we were clearly not convincing enough for our friend. Being a lawyer, Corey was a bit used to odd threats (such as dead pigs appearing on his doorstep). When we first contacted Corey, we didn't exactly approach him with a lot of evidence.

Kristen, on the other hand, seems overly paranoid, which is good -- she believed us right off the bat. Result: paranoid people live longer. I think Kristen will make it to the end. Smile
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 		Thanks Omega! Wink
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 		sorry for the double post!
Kristin's blog is updated:

Quote:
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Patiently waiting...
Ok... I am going back to work Monday, or should I? I really don't know.

For those of you reading this and wondering what's going on, well... If anyone read the New York Times yesterday or saw the news about the death of a lawyer in Chicago; it's to do with that.

Apparently he and I were both mentioned on some sickos website talking about how one of us should die, something along those lines... And then there's been the creepy phonecalls and then, the email I got today which came from an unknown sender.

It was in my spam folder and it simply said "1... 3... 5... You're lucky to still be alive. 2... 4... 6... But don't count your chicks"

I'm freaking out so bad, I've recently called a friend of my dads; James Hutchings. He's a private investigator out of L.A... He's going to give me details on his website and talk to me soon. Hopefully it is soon...
Posted by Kristen at Saturday, March 29, 2008 0 comments
Thursday, March 27, 2008



looks like our person is still messign with her, someone mentioned earlier that she might still be in the "game" and it looks like she is
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 		James Hutchings just contacted me thru AIM:

Quote:

--- 3/30/2008 ---
hutchingspi (9:48 AM):
Hello?

knightmare2k186 (9:53 AM):
Hi who's this?
Oh! Wait
I know
Your the PI?

hutchingspi (9:53 AM):
Yes.
Kristen gave me a couple of people to contact

knightmare2k186 (9:53 AM):
Great.. So how's everything been going on your end?

hutchingspi (9:54 AM):
Well, I need to know what has been going on, at least from your perspective. Kristen was a bit incoherent when she talked to me

knightmare2k186 (9:54 AM):
Very well

hutchingspi (9:55 AM):
Frankly, I'm quite worried for her

knightmare2k186 (9:55 AM):
Umm to start...

hutchingspi (9:55 AM):
So, how did Kristen get involved in this? I did get the fact that there was some sort of death threat in video form?

knightmare2k186 (9:55 AM):
We received an invitation to play a "game" of sorts, with kristen and 4 others named as the main "participants."
And yes there was the initial death threat video

hutchingspi (9:56 AM):
Where is that video?

knightmare2k186 (9:56 AM):
It showed pictures of kristen, and a recently deceases, corey wester, who was also a participant
www.inthefinalstate.com
The password is "death"
It will show the video

hutchingspi (9:57 AM):
Well, that is definitely Kristen...

knightmare2k186 (9:57 AM):
Yes it is...
Somehow, whoever this person is, got ahold of those pictures, from her desketop
She said she never uploaded those pictures onto the net

hutchingspi (9:58 AM):
That means that whoever this is had access to her house...
Well

knightmare2k186 (9:59 AM):
We also don't have any idea, as to how all these ppl are connected.
Corey and kristen didn't have much, except that they had a few similar hobbies

hutchingspi (9:59 AM):
That is something I'll need to look in to
Hmm. Has anybody actually been contacted by the "killer"?

knightmare2k186 (10:00 AM):
No not anyone from my team, at least not directly
Only kristen has had phone contact with him, ...threats
Most of my teams contact, comes in thru the site,

hutchingspi (10:01 AM):
OK.
Kristen did show me her blog and talked about the phone calls

knightmare2k186 (10:01 AM):
One other thing...I'm sure kristen has told u about corey western

hutchingspi (10:01 AM):
I might try to get the police involved... trace the calls

knightmare2k186 (10:01 AM):
Ok that's fine

hutchingspi (10:02 AM):
And yes, Kristen did tell me about Corey

knightmare2k186 (10:02 AM):
Did you get a chance to see the newspaper clipping?

hutchingspi (10:02 AM):
Yes, she showed me too

knightmare2k186 (10:02 AM):
Ok

hutchingspi (10:02 AM):
After being a policeman for years and after that being a PI, I still find it appalling that some psychopaths take enjoyment out of killing people
It's just sad

knightmare2k186 (10:03 AM):
Unfortunately, yes

hutchingspi (10:03 AM):
Anyways, I'll probably have more to ask you later
I have somebody to contact at Kristen's old job - I have my suspicions
I should be around tonight or tomorrow if you have anything else you need to tell me

knightmare2k186 (10:03 AM):
Sure... Well I'm usually on aim here on my BB so if I have my hands free ill be glad to help

hutchingspi (10:04 AM):
Thanks

knightmare2k186 (10:04 AM):
Ty

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